Section 3AA Final: #4 Eagan vs #3 STA 2/27, 7PM

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Cats or Cadets?

Eagan
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STA(A)
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Total votes: 46

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Sats81 wrote:
Sats81 wrote:Eagan 4-2
Yep. Nuff said
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Sats81 wrote:
Sats81 wrote:Eagan 4-2
Yep. Nuff said
You have to call the EN.... :wink:
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BlueLineSpecial wrote:
Sats81 wrote:
Sats81 wrote:Eagan 4-2
Yep. Nuff said
I love Sats81 predictions because he's either exactly right or he is so far wrong it's painful. No middle ground! :lol: :lol:
Usually a lot more of former. 2nd game tonight dead on.
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BlueLineSpecial wrote:
Sats81 wrote:
Sats81 wrote:Eagan 4-2
Yep. Nuff said
I love Sats81 predictions because he's either exactly right or he is so far wrong it's painful. No middle ground! :lol: :lol:
Who said I'm a "he"? Lol
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MrBoDangles wrote:
mnhockfan99 wrote:I like STA 4-3.
I like Eagan 3
I dislike STA 2

:P
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deacon wrote:Disclaimer: I graduated from STA and am a huge homer.

That being established, I can't believe there isn't an outcry from Eastview fans or STA haters about the officiating in that game. It was the worst officiated game I've ever seen. The Cadets were on the receiving end of some calls that I thought were laughable, in their favor. The Eastview coach was livid and I can't say I really blame him.
Hopefully the atrocious officiating goes away with the venue next year. I wasn't at the STA/EV game so I can't comment on that, but I'm surprised no one has said anything about tonight.
The first period wasn't terrible, but when the official celebrated at Eagan's first goal, it all went badly from there. Donohue was checked from behind into the boards after the whistle, went down and was called from interference. How does one get checked from behind into the boards and go to the box? I've seen guys get majors and ejected for much less.
That was really the icing on the cake.

I have seen Eagan play all of two times in my life; dominating the play and beating Eden Prairie last year and this game. I have no issue with them whatsoever and wish them the best of luck going forward. They are a very big team and play very good defense.
The thing I question, though, is the "physical play" that everyone is referring to. They are physical, sure, but I saw a handful of missed interference calls all night. You don't control the officials, so I can't blame them too much, but when they get to the X and those things will be called, it'll take away the advantages they had in this game.

Their first goal was the result of continuing to apply the pressure. There were about 3 saves made prior and the guys kept at it. The other two goals were quite pretty. They had all of two plays I was impressed with all night and scored on both of them. Defense doesn't score goals, but taking advantage of the opportunities you're given does. If they play like they did in the second and third, they can stop teams from scoring and score when given the opportunity.

Good luck to the Wildcats at the X. They should be a good 3AA representative at state.
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HShockeywatcher wrote:
deacon wrote:Disclaimer: I graduated from STA and am a huge homer.

That being established, I can't believe there isn't an outcry from Eastview fans or STA haters about the officiating in that game. It was the worst officiated game I've ever seen. The Cadets were on the receiving end of some calls that I thought were laughable, in their favor. The Eastview coach was livid and I can't say I really blame him.

The first period wasn't terrible, but when the official celebrated at Eagan's first goal, it all went badly from there. Donohue was checked from behind into the boards after the whistle, went down and was called from interference. How does one get checked from behind into the boards and go to the box? I've seen guys get majors and ejected for much less.
That was really the icing on the cake.

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Donohue went to hit the Eagan player after the whistle and the other guy hit him also but sent Donohue flying. Donohue went for the original hit and thats why he got the penalty. The Eagan player also got a penalty so I had no problem with the call.
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Good luck to the Cats at the X, they won't be an easy out and could definitely make some noise if they catch offensive fire like tonight.
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green4 wrote:Donohue went to hit the Eagan player after the whistle and the other guy hit him also but sent Donohue flying. Donohue went for the original hit and thats why he got the penalty. The Eagan player also got a penalty so I had no problem with the call.
We give penalties for "going for a hit" now? If that were the case, then where were all the penalties when Eagan players "went for the hit" on Novak? :roll:

Curious, then, as to your thoughts about the no call where the STA player got leveled behind the play in the Eagan zone in the 2nd period?

Like I said, it was the icing on the cake.
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Post by WendyClark »

Cadets16 wrote:As a non-hockey playing Cadet, I will tell you what I think. This is just my opinion alone.

The 2013 team was probably the best team we've fielded in years. I feel they could have won the AA tournament last year.

However, the jump to AA is tricky. There is a double standard for us. If we win, private school dominance has gone too far, but if we lose then we "shouldn't have made the jump", even after everybody called for it. So it's a tricky situation. We can win another state tournament at the A level, or battle our way through AA to a section runner-up.

It will be interesting to see much of anything from STA next
year. Rumors float that Novak and Versich may go to pursue junior hockey. I do know the JV team was very sophomore and freshmen heavy, so we shall see where that gets them next year, should they lose Novak and Versich.
The 2013 team did not face a AA section tournament or a AA state tournament so that's false.

The jump to AA is tricky cause you got to play AA teams when it matters

It will matter what STA kids will do now cause they are not guaranteed state tournament championships or even state tournaments berths
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WendyClark wrote:It will matter what STA kids will do now cause they are not guaranteed state tournament championships or even state tournaments berths
Who stays will really be what matters most. There are 3 regular contributors this year that are seniors and I don't think any started regularly.
Donohue's commitment is to the AF so I doubt he'll leave, but Novak, Versich and Tufto were all drafted in the USHL draft so they all have the option to leave. If they stay, it'd be hard to think this team wouldn't be quite good next year. Hard to say beyond that until anything is known for sure.
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HShockeywatcher wrote:
green4 wrote:Donohue went to hit the Eagan player after the whistle and the other guy hit him also but sent Donohue flying. Donohue went for the original hit and thats why he got the penalty. The Eagan player also got a penalty so I had no problem with the call.
We give penalties for "going for a hit" now? If that were the case, then where were all the penalties when Eagan players "went for the hit" on Novak? :roll:

Curious, then, as to your thoughts about the no call where the STA player got leveled behind the play in the Eagan zone in the 2nd period?

Like I said, it was the icing on the cake.
the hit was after the whistle.................. Like you stated just above........... that warrants a penalty

I'm assuming your talking about the hit Wolff had near the blue line. I thought that hit was fine with the way they were calling the game, the refs were letting them finish checks
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HShockeywatcher wrote:
green4 wrote:Donohue went to hit the Eagan player after the whistle and the other guy hit him also but sent Donohue flying. Donohue went for the original hit and thats why he got the penalty. The Eagan player also got a penalty so I had no problem with the call.
We give penalties for "going for a hit" now? If that were the case, then where were all the penalties when Eagan players "went for the hit" on Novak? :roll:

Curious, then, as to your thoughts about the no call where the STA player got leveled behind the play in the Eagan zone in the 2nd period?

Like I said, it was the icing on the cake.
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MrBoDangles wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote:
green4 wrote:Donohue went to hit the Eagan player after the whistle and the other guy hit him also but sent Donohue flying. Donohue went for the original hit and thats why he got the penalty. The Eagan player also got a penalty so I had no problem with the call.
We give penalties for "going for a hit" now? If that were the case, then where were all the penalties when Eagan players "went for the hit" on Novak? :roll:

Curious, then, as to your thoughts about the no call where the STA player got leveled behind the play in the Eagan zone in the 2nd period?

Like I said, it was the icing on the cake.
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green4 wrote:the hit was after the whistle.................. Like you stated just above........... that warrants a penalty

I'm assuming your talking about the hit Wolff had near the blue line. I thought that hit was fine with the way they were calling the game, the refs were letting them finish checks
One guys "goes for a hit" and the other checks him from behind into the boards. You don't give penalties for "going for a hit." Pretty simple.

Finishing checks? :roll: He skated up to a player who hadn't had the puck for seconds and just leveled him away from the play.


I've been on the advantageous side of poor officiating in the past and the victory doesn't feel as good. The inconsistency of how the calls were made/not made with respect to each team was incredible.
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HShockeywatcher wrote:
green4 wrote:the hit was after the whistle.................. Like you stated just above........... that warrants a penalty

I'm assuming your talking about the hit Wolff had near the blue line. I thought that hit was fine with the way they were calling the game, the refs were letting them finish checks
One guys "goes for a hit" and the other checks him from behind into the boards. You don't give penalties for "going for a hit." Pretty simple.

Finishing checks? :roll: He skated up to a player who hadn't had the puck for seconds and just leveled him away from the play.


I've been on the advantageous side of poor officiating in the past and the victory doesn't feel as good. The inconsistency of how the calls were made/not made with respect to each team was incredible.
1) Donohue went for the hit after the whistle, the Eagan player defended himself and Donohue went flying. If Donohue didn't want to get leveled tell him to not hit people after the whistle. The whole thing could have been avoided without him going for that hit. The Only people that seemed to have a problem with this was STA. I was watching it on the stream and both the commentators agreed on the call.
2) I don't think were talking about the same hit because the one Im talking about he had the puck and chipped it out right before he got hit.
3) STA got outplayed tonight, quit blaming the refs I thought they did a fine job.
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Post by WendyClark »

Once again HSCircleTalker blames the officiating for the close game. What a dope
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green4 wrote:1) Donohue went for the hit after the whistle, the Eagan player defended himself and Donohue went flying. If Donohue didn't want to get leveled tell him to not hit people after the whistle. The whole thing could have been avoided without him going for that hit. The Only people that seemed to have a problem with this was STA. I was watching it on the stream and both the commentators agreed on the call.
2) I don't think were talking about the same hit because the one Im talking about he had the puck and chipped it out right before he got hit.
3) STA got outplayed tonight, quit blaming the refs I thought they did a fine job.
I'd be interested in seeing film on the play. The Eagan player skated up to Donohue from behind as the whistle was blown; hard to be attacking a player who is skating up to you.

Probably. Middle of the second period. Puck is passed up the ice, seconds later St Thomas player is leveled in Eagan's zone.

I'm not blaming the refs for the loss. Like I said, Eagan plays good defense and penalties don't score goals. I'm blaming them for the atrocious officiating. deacon did it 3 days ago and was agreed with. It sounds to me like the officiating at the Coliseum has been bad. It was terrible tonight. The officiating in a AA section final game shouldn't be like it was tonight. That's all.
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Shout out to my Eagan boys!! They showed great composure and perseverance after going down 2 goals to STA. Hats off to the Cadets, they played a good game but all I can say is WELCOME TO AA !! Your days of whipping up on the A teams are over, your playing with da big boys now !! Give me your address and I will be glad to send over some popcorn for you to eat while watching the tourney next week. Maybe you can call the BSM and Breck boys and watch together. No matter what happens next week, its gonna be a great tournament. GO CATS !! =D> =D> =D> =D>

PS:HSHW, I will send you some tissue.. :lol:
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Post by bauerman »

Congrats to Sats81--youcalled this game.
To th e other people who think this is some wakeup call for STA get a grip.I congratulate Eagan and wish them luck in the Tourney but to make this some sort of wake up call is wrong. The truth of the matter is that in most sections A or AA a good top 15 team in the state has to play 1 tough team. This years STA team was very young and certainly not as talented as some previous teams. How tough was Edina's road to state? How tough is HM looking like? In previous years playing Totino Grace SO St Paul and Matomedi was just as tough as STA's road this year of Hastings eastview and Eagan. Sta may loss some players next year, they lose players most every year, this years team lost Dougherty to the national development team, thet wanted Novak too, he choose not to go,maybe he will next year maybe not. But I think STA will be heard from ,they lost but they have lost in sections before in class A also
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Post by almostashappy »

Couldn't be prouder or more excited about seeing this young band of brothers come together as a team to realize the dream of every Minnesota rink rat.

Well done, Eagan. =D>
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Maybe you can call the BSM and Breck boys and watch together.
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Post by SuperStar »

First time I saw Eagan and I was impressed by thier physicality. Thier big, strong Dmen Wolff - 6'4, Karel - 6'3 and Muck did a great job...The forwards also physically pounded STA as well - Jensen. But STA has a great PP. All around fun game to watch as a fan.
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HHF

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Thats the HHF I know with his post from above bashing STA and all other privates that lost this week...
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Go HILL MURRAY, we need at least one honest team in the tourney
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