Meet your 2008 Twins!

Irishmans Shanty · Post by **Irishmans Shanty** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:08 pm

Kubel, now there's a name from the past.

Stats for Jul 28 and 29
Jason Kubel (0 AB, 0 INN)
Irishmans Shanty (0 AB, 0 INN)

Yup, Kubel has done just as much as I have so far this series. Come to think of it, on Monday Gomez was hurt and Cuddyer was too, the Twins were two outfielders down and Kubel still couldn't get on the field.

Govs93 · Post by **Govs93** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:21 pm

Oakland B.H. (Before Hurt): 15-9, 4.7 runs per game
Oakland A.H. (After Hurt): 38-44, 4.2 runs per game

Twins record with Jason Kubel starting: 41-34

You know what that means... The Kubel Factor is +13. No spin. Just facts. And just out of curiousity, since the Big (always) Hurt hasn't played since May 27, exactly how much would he be contributing to the hometown team?

Mike Redmond career vs. Mark Beuhrle: .500 (14-28 )... yeah, that was a Kubel related move.

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:33 pm

The biggest series of the season and Kubel is a healthy scratch.

I mean, you gotta be kiddin me.

Get somebody in here who isn't afraid to hit vs lefties

Govs93 · Post by **Govs93** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:37 pm

packerboy wrote:The biggest series of the season and Kubel is a healthy scratch.

I mean, you gotta be kiddin me.

Get somebody in here who isn't afraid to hit vs lefties

I'm all for it... but for the last 2 months, Frank Thomas hasn't been hitting righties or lefties!

Neutron 14 · Post by **Neutron 14** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:21 pm

Whats with all these sissy teams that have to "Bring In" their hired guns...

Can't fight their own battles? Gotta bring in some Kid Sheleen? Some Johnnie Cochran? Ya gotta be kiddin me!

STAND PAT BILLY!!!!!

We are not afwaid....

Irishmans Shanty · Post by **Irishmans Shanty** » Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:06 pm

Neutron 14 wrote:
STAND PAT BILLY!!!!!

You can count on it.

However Billy, if you want to give the Mariners a call and check on the status of one Raul Ibanez.

EREmpireStrikesBack · Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:43 pm

Govs93 wrote:
packerboy wrote:The biggest series of the season and Kubel is a healthy scratch.

I mean, you gotta be kiddin me.

Get somebody in here who isn't afraid to hit vs lefties
I'm all for it... but for the last 2 months, Frank Thomas hasn't been hitting righties or lefties!

Everyone knows the Twins have superior trainers.

And plus we wouldn't have to worry about Frank sliding in head first, he's just gotta trot around the bases.

sachishi4 · Post by **sachishi4** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:22 am

they play cue ball and they lose

of course the twins lay an egg when im there

Neutron 14 · Post by **Neutron 14** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:56 am

cough...cough... Good to see Boof get some action last night, at least after Leave-on didn't.

Well Billy, still lots of big fish out there like Adam Dunn, but you just keep your Zebco in the garage. We didn't go saving all that Hunter/Santana money just to have you try to win a World Series...

Irishmans Shanty · Post by **Irishmans Shanty** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:07 am

Attention all anglers and Billy, one more big fish just got reeled in.

Pending his approval, the White Sox have just acquired Ken Griffey Jr.

Neutron 14 · Post by **Neutron 14** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:43 am

Billy, don't be a hero, don't be a fool with Carls money
Billy, don't be a hero, just pass the kool-aid cuz the sky is sunny

Billy, don't be a hero, don't put up a fight
Billy, don't be a hero, close your eyes and sit tight

Billy, don't be a hero, while others go get them
Billy, don't be a hero, be our favorite Gee... Emm...

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:36 am

According to the Red Star the Twins have had a lot of conversation with the Ms about Beltre and the Ms want a Slowey/ Blackburn/Perkins in return and the Twins wont do it.

Why bother. If they dont want to do another Garza/Young deal, what are the options?

If Liriano is healthy, they have an excess of starting pitchers. Do they think they can get Beltre for Livan?

They have done a great job in stockpiling young pitching that is at least somewhat proven at the MLB level. Now, cash in on it.

Too afraid to make a mistake.

Neutron 14 · Post by **Neutron 14** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:17 am

packerboy wrote:Too afraid to make a mistake.

Govs93 · Post by **Govs93** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:18 am

Sounds like the Sox are going to pick up Griffey (who is no Jason Kubel, but should be able to help them out)... will the Twins be able to counter punch? Glad I have the day off do I can stare the tube all day...

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:12 am

A little rain wont hurt you Govs. Get out there.

Go to the game tonight and you can see Jason in person and.......oh, sorry, Danks is a lefty.

Well, you'll think of something.

I am sure the Sox main motivation in signing Griffey was to try and counter what has become the key to this series: The Kubel Factor

packerboy · Post by **packerboy** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:30 am

It does get a little silly though.

The Twins get beat up one game and the cry goes out for the front office to do something.

"Oh, Casilla is out what , whatever shall we do"

This is the same guy Gardy wanted no part of a couple of months ago.

The Twins just cant go and get a hitter.They have got to be concerned about what effect that would have on Jason Kubels at bats.

I mean, think about it, who needs Thomas, Beltre, Dunn, Griffey etc when you got Kubel.

If Livan goes the way of the rest of their bargain basement busts, they got Liriano.

Billy, Billy, Billy......

Irishmans Shanty · Post by **Irishmans Shanty** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:47 am

Griffey should be in uniform at the dome tonight, incidently he has 38 career dingers against the Twins, that's a lot. My memory is a little foggy but Jr. must have had a lot of AB's against the Twins before the AL went to 3 divisions.

The Sox had to relinquish what basically would amount to Brian Bass and Matt Tolbert to get Griffey. I agree with Billy, stay out of this high stakes bargaining. Save, Save, Save and stockpile prospects for the future.

Neutron 14 · Post by **Neutron 14** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:01 pm

Irishmans Shanty wrote: Save, Save, Save and stockpile prospects for the future.

Absolutely. Get more great prospects like Drew Butera and Dustin Martin. I know we had to give up Castillo, but for those two sure fire guys it was worth it.

Neutron 14 · Post by **Neutron 14** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:29 pm

MIAMI (AP) -- The Florida Marlins bolstered their bullpen Thursday by acquiring left-hander Arthur Rhodes from the Seattle Mariners for minor league right-hander Gaby Hernandez.

Florida, in the thick of the NL East and wild-card races, made the deal a few hours before baseball's 4 p.m. EDT trade deadline.

The 38-year-old Rhodes is 2-1 with a 2.86 ERA with 26 strikeouts in 22 innings. He has a lifetime record of 77-61 with a 4.28 ERA in 689 games.

The 21-year-old Hernandez went a combined 5-8 this season with a 6.47 ERA in 17 starts for Triple-A Albuquerque and Double-A Carolina.

This is what we need to avoid Billy. Immediate help sure, but look what you've got to give up! A 6.47 ERA guy! Be patient Billy, we're only in our 17th year of rebuilding....

Neutron 14 · Post by **Neutron 14** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:51 pm

Tic...

I know your itching Billy, the Twins have so many holes. Here try this-

That should help.

Tock....
3PM will be here soon.

Govs93 · Post by **Govs93** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:36 pm

According to the Strib, a move by the hometown club is imminent...

Liriano in... Livan out.

Neutron 14 · Post by **Neutron 14** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 1:44 pm

Govs93 wrote:Livan out.

Only an hour and a half left to get a bag of balls for him.

GR3343 · Post by **GR3343** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:53 pm

So there were no moves? Couldn't find any surfing the web. Only comment I really read was from Nathan saying they didn't need anyone else. He said they're only 1.5 out with this team, and getting Cuddy back will be like a deadline deal.

Not so sure, but we've got a little over 50 games to find out.

Liriano is reportedly on his way up and the team said they will figure out a way to have him in the rotation. This from an unnamed source.

Indians forever · Post by **Indians forever** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:59 pm

Typical Twins fashion, just can't pull the Trigger........

EREmpireStrikesBack · Post by **EREmpireStrikesBack** » Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:37 pm

I swear they break our hearts more than the Vikings.

How the Boof do teams pull of trades like that and we come up with nothing? Does Billy not have phone numbers for other GMs?