albert lea vs. mankato east

behind the glass · Post by **behind the glass** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:28 pm

who do you think will win, i say albert lea hands down.

Th0r2412 · Post by **Th0r2412** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:51 pm

I'll bite. Besides being an AL fan give some reasons why AL will win this game easily. If you were at the games sat. you saw what East did to West.

whatsup333 · Post by **whatsup333** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:09 pm

east will win hands down. All AL has is that brewer kid and he's good and all but not good enough to handle east by himself.

NUEagles · Post by **NUEagles** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:12 pm

This year was my Senior year as a hockey player in New Ulm (I was #15) and just had my career more than likely ended. I will say that the Tigers came out and pounded us. In yesterdays case the better team did come out the winner.Good Luck tigers. I hope you can make it to the X and show them that 1a isnt so bad after all.

joshdog · Post by **joshdog** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:26 pm

NUEagles, you are obviously a very respectful young man and understand there is a winner and loser in every game. That is to be commended. I have to ask this question of you because I thought it was strange. Was there a pregame talk about laying on the ice after good hits? It just seemed odd that it happened so many times but not one of those players missed a shift.

NUEagles · Post by **NUEagles** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:40 pm

Well josh.. The game did get a tad chippy. What are these "Good hits" you speak of? Perhaps breuers hack to Zollners face in the 1st. Or Burgau getting X-checked in the goal. New Ulm got their unsportsmanlike not for diving, but when Kloos was hacked he shouted a profane word and thats where the unsportsmanlike came from. If your going to get into players laying on the ice it happened to Albert Lea nearly as many times as New Ulm and I dont recall them missing shifts either.

joshdog · Post by **joshdog** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:50 pm

Yes,I was talking about Bruer's high stick and the cross check at the net. Both of those were easy calls to make but what I am referring to was on both occasions these guys layed on the ice until attended to. Bruer's high stick caught the goalie clean on the mask as the goalie was down in butterfly and the puck had popped out. I gaurantee he gets hit in the same spot by pucks 10 or 15 times each week in practice. Does he lay on the ice then? I hope not. The AL player(only once) that layed on the ice ended a very nice 2 on 1 AL had going. When he stood up and was alright I was shocked. Keep in mind that this was the same kid who cross-checked your guy into the net. Very stupid play. I distinctly remember 4 other times where NU guys laid down but didn't draw any calls, while doing so they left you 5 on 4 until another player got in the play.

Moose03 · Post by **Moose03** » Sun Feb 29, 2004 11:09 pm

lets just say it looked like new ulm didnt come with any type of game plan at all. Albert lea came with one and did it to its perfection. they new they had to play a solid game with a shaking goltender behind them. You look back in Bantam A's. New Ulm beat albert lea twice that year. New ulm also beat a very good mankato team. Then you put these kids through a high school coaching program and a lot changed. Albert Lea has improved greatly. They imporoved greatly throughout the year. New Ulm didnt one bit. Look at the waseca game's for new ulm. The first game of the year they beat them 8-1. Then they lose to them at home, then they barley beat them at home. Coaching makes a huge difference in the game of high school.

joshdog · Post by **joshdog** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:54 am

I agree 100% moose. The NU bantam coach does a very fine job, they won districts again this year.Last years AL bantams did lose twice to NU and although the scores weren't real bad, NU was the much better team. If you go back a couple of years though when more of the high school kids were bantams, AL did hold the edge. We are definitley blessed in AL with a very fine HS coach.

Moose03 · Post by **Moose03** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 4:42 pm

Three years ago when the NU seniors were bantam A's albert lea did not hold the edge against new ulm. New Ulm beat them 3 times that year. Once in albert lea once in new ulm and once in luvern for districts. If you are going to try to tell me that albert lea held the edge that year i am going to laugh at you. Coaching is the biggest part of the game when you get to high school. there are so many different for checks and as a coach you have to be able to get the players even more ready than they already are. Albert Lea has a great coach for that. This year albert lea was the better team. they beat new ulm twice and they without a question deserve a chance to play east again. They wanted it more in the New Ulm game. Give New Ulm credit though they never quit in that game. They came out slow and headed into the third period down by 4. They got two back. with albert lea scoring an empty net goal. I think new ulms assistant coach will make a great coach if macho steps down. He was the coach that lead the bantam A team to a third place finish at regionals with this years seniors. That team wasn't even expected to be at at regionals.

joshdog · Post by **joshdog** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 6:49 pm

When I said a "couple" I meant just that, 2 years ago. I don't disagree about three years ago. I guess what we're getting at here is that the two programs are very competitive year in and year out. It shows at Gustavus every year. Two years ago you guy's had Lourdes on the ropes huge, w/out Hoffman. I have nothing but respect for NU's program as a whole, I just can't help but wonder about all the ?injuries? on Sat.. The AL player that layed down in the third period does have a seperated shoulder.

upucker · Post by **upucker** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:48 pm

I would like to comment on the differences in coaching. Albert Lea has had a coach the same coach for around 30 years. He has brought stability to the program and knows what works. His coaching style has changed over the years but one thing remains the same year in and year out, He expects each and every player to give 100% and if not he finds someone else who will. The differences I see are some programs are changing coaches often and never really get things clicking and by the time they do the coach is replaced. There are three great coaches that I can think of 1. Roy Nystrom, 2. Gene Sack of J.M., 3. Loren Grosso of Mayo. they have coached in section 1 for years and and have been quite successful. I know Sack doesn't coach anymore but he was good one , I remember the team he brought to the State tournament in 77 with the Lacy brothers and Paul Butters as the hot goalie and won it. Albert Lea might not have the scoring punch that Mankato East has but they will have the more seasoned coach behind the bench. If Albert Lea stays out of the box they will be going to the state tournament finally after 40 years of high school hockey in A.L. Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub33.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUser ... upucker</A> at: 3/1/04 8:28 pm

sterfry9 · Post by **sterfry9** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:32 pm

NU player is jay giesthardt doing anythign with his hockey career do you know at all? breuer will tear east defense and goalie apart. AL got a shakie goalie will make AL play that much harder. ive played east b4 and the wenzel drysdale line can be shut down simply playing the body and personally i dont think east is that good. look for breuer to clutch up for his team. plz dont doubt breuer 6 pts against owatonna in owatonna breuer can do what is needed to carry a team

Moose03 · Post by **Moose03** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:33 pm

I dont think that Jay Geisthardt is doing anything. The only person that I have heard from new ulm that is going any where is adam macho the defenceman. From what i have seen the last two years macho is not that good of a defenceman. he is your average defencman. I think that there were also a lot better defenceman in the new ulm program than macho. That is the difference between the coaching styles, other coachs will find other people to play for them if there players dont. I dont think it was that way in new ulm at all that way this year. They may not have had much depth but either did the other teams and they got the job done. A player giving his 100% and almost playing as good as a person giving 80% is better because he is the one with the heart and the one that is showing that he wants it more.

puckstar07 · Post by **puckstar07** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:30 pm

Hmm... let me think about this interesting matchup for a little bit..... oh yeah...............who cares?? this has got to be the worst section in the state.

Th0r2412 · Post by **Th0r2412** » Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:53 pm

the problem AL's got is even if they manage to shut down the Wenzel line, they've got other forwards they have to deal with. Viola scored 4 against AL last time and East has had 2 sophs. get hat tricks in recent games. Even East's defensemen are starting to find the range. AL's got 2 choices, to either play wide open hockey and try to out- score East(which didn't work last time) or play back and try to protect the young goalie. If they do the later they're pinning their hopes on a freshman goalie, (who let in 4 against East's jv. team) to stand up to a team that just scored 8 against Hage, who was one of the best senior tenders in so. minn. and 9 against West senior Otopalik who was an hon men. all big-9 goalie. AL was playing a worn out, leg weary NU team that still managed to claw their way back into the game near the end. Friday they'll be facing an East team with fresh legs, a veteran senior net minder and the best player in the section,bar none. Good Luck.

goldy313 · Post by **goldy313** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:29 am

First, I'll assume that there won't be 15 goals scored this game like there was the last game. So I break it down this way: Goalies- Bundy(ME) vs. Cassanova(AL) I thought Bundy had the advantage over LOng, well Long won't be playing sooooo....Bundy has the advantage over Cassanova. What a game for a freshman to try and have to win, if East scores early it could get ugly. If Cassanova and AL can get an early lead, they'll have to keep it at 2 goals for the freshman to have a chance. Defense-AL has the advantage, based on what I have seen, East's defense tend to caught, and are a bit slower than their AL counterparts. Lair can be exploited though. If AL can exploit the Cougar defense, Bundy will have to be on top of his game. The small rink plays into AL hands here as it is easier to slip someone behind for a breakaway. Forwards-East has the advantage, to much firepower on the Cougar side. I think Breuer is the 2nd best forward in the Big Nine, but he is not enough. The balanced East attack is too much. Losing Bracker hurt more than most care to admit. PLaying in that bandbox of a rink will benefit East more than AL, played on a bigger surface it might be more even, as Breuer would have more room to work. Special teams-Viola has to stay out of the box, AL has way too good of a power play to be let loose. Of course penalties should be few and far between in a game like this, but Viola tends to take some bad penalties. East gives up 3+ man advantage opportunities in the game and they're in trouble. T Coaching- Nystrom has the advantage over most in the state, period. Gets alot out of a little some years. AL is always in the hunt, they gave Lourdes all they could handle last year and Lourdes was superior to the team AL will face Friday night. Prediction-6-3 East. Too much fire power for East, AL is a year away. AL's problems at goalie, the loss of Bracker and East's depth will be the deciding factors in this game.

whatsup333 · Post by **whatsup333** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:15 pm

East is winning this one this year. I think next year it will be the same two teams fighting for this section but AL will take it. AL is a good team but East has two awesome lines playing against basically one kid (Breuer). 6-3 sounds about right

joshdog · Post by **joshdog** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:17 pm

Puckstar07, What section do you align with? Have you played with or against skaters from this section? A freshman phenom you are huh? And for which bantam B2 team did you play for this year?

behind the glass · Post by **behind the glass** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:43 pm

i think you all are wrong a.l. doesnt just have breuer, he is a great player, but they also have two very good seniors in hegwood and schumacher. also they have cory ellertson and dugstad, who is a good defensive player as is offense. most of which were high up in the points list. also their defense are very good and have scored more than most on the team, becausne they have great speed. so you know what this isnt gonna be 6-3 its gonna 4-3 albert lea, they know they have an inexperienced goalie and they know what they need to do, just wait and see, but i do know one thing this game is gonna be a great one!!! <a href="http://sports.smumn.edu/bignine/2003/sc ...  Edited by: <A HREF=http://pub33.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUser ... nhs>behind the glass</A> at: 3/2/04 5:46 pm

Th0r2412 · Post by **Th0r2412** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:45 pm

I agree AL has more than just Breuer. Those players you mentioned are all good ones. East just has more of them. They can spot Miller and Lyons from the 3rd line with no dropoff in talent. With the home ice East will be able to even be able to spot their whole 3rd line. With the loss of Bracker AL doesn't have that luxury. As far as those big-9 stats. they are skewed. AL played 16 big-9 games including Winona twice. East played only 11 big-9 games and Winona only once. If East played in the same # of games, their top line would have finished 1,2,3 in scoring in the conference. Just a word of advice to the 'cup'. When you've been in sports long enough you'll learn that swearing,name calling, and taunting your opposition is a sure sign of fear.It shows you're scared and need to pump yourself up because you're uncertain how good you are. A confident athlete just goes out and proves it.

joshdog · Post by **joshdog** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:03 pm

East is a very good club this year, hands down. All the speculation about what would have happened is just that. I really don't feel the 3rd lines are going to decide this. I don't know if you would see a "real" 3rd line anyways, probably a few guys double shifting. One concrete thing to look at here is that a large part of AL's club was here a year ago in the very same game. That will be a big plus in the 1st period.

puckstar07 · Post by **puckstar07** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:11 pm

joshdog- it is great to see that you are getting behind your section here, and it appears that you seem to know alot about it. But the truth is, this is hardly hockey, and you will have to learn to deal with it......dog

behind the glass · Post by **behind the glass** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:14 pm

if the big nine stats arent good enough than heres the whole year those a.l. player are still up there and even though the east top line is higher a.l. has more. <a href="http://sports.smumn.edu/bignine/2003/sc ...

upucker · Post by **upucker** » Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:40 pm

From what I have seen of Albert lea's for-check, East will have a tough time getting the puck out of the O zone. They will come at you hard and fast but then again maybe Nystrom will confuse you altogether and put up a left wing lock or a neutral zone trap. Either way East coaching staff will be out coached no doubt about it. AL will take this game 5-2

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