3AA conspiracy

[winner62]

wow i am officially shocked 3AA went unchanged how does this happen that they leave wbl-hill-cent-roseville all in the same section this is ridiculous i mean come on i watched the state tournament this year and any one of those teams i just listed was better then 1aa 2aa 4aa and maybe 7AA plus i got an idea how boiut we give moorhead some competition when wbl and hill beat moorhead they have no comptetition up their <br><br>this may be controversial but what the He** all those teams deserve to be in state <p></p><i></i>

[WBLBEARS06]

somewhere in someones post i heard there going to have a 3AA meeting. Hopefully something will get done. With ER going to 7AA it doesnt look like Cent will go to 7AA to. Unless DE or CEC goes to 8AA. Whatever its a big crappy mess, and hopefully someone is going/ <p>The curse lives on.....</p><i></i>

[WBL04GRAD]

I was also pretty surprized that they left it pretty much unchanged. That section has some awesome competition. I thought they were gonna move Centennial to 7AA with East. But i guess not. Oh well, i hope WBL wins the section again...then gets by the first round, hehe. <p></p><i></i>

[Neutron 14]

Personally, I enjoy the greatest sectional tournament in the state. Whomever survives truly earned their right to go to state. Unfortunately for some sections it seems to be a silver platter gift. But when you earn it it's all the sweeter. <p></p><i></i>

[WBLBEARS06]

to bad the section champ doesnt matter if you cant get past the first round hehe.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :evil --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /devil.gif ALT=":evil"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p>The curse lives on.....</p><i></i>

[outdoorrink]

Do you people think the MSHSL is going to split up 3AA just because you have 4 strong programs with in a few miles of each other. They certainly won't because you think your top 4 would have fared better at the State Tournament. <p></p><i></i>

[Neutron 14]

Keep the faith 06, look no further than the red sox. I hope it doesnt take 86 years though.... <p></p><i></i>

[WBLBEARS06]

you cant base the section off of the section winner. Look at 4AA ER went 2 to and out and there not going to 7AA. It doesnt matter how the winner does at state, it matters how the teams do as a whole. WBL/Cent/HM/RSVL were all top 15 teams in state and top 10 in metro.<br>LOL neutron the bears better make it out of the first round before i die.<!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :lol --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/im ... /laugh.gif ALT=":lol"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <p>The curse lives on.....</p><i>Edited by: <A HREF=http://p074.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... BEARS06</A> at: 3/7/05 2:50 pm<br></i>

[WBL04GRAD]

3AA had a winner in 2004....Centennial. It is a strong section and i think they should split it up a little. Because normally 2 of the teams from this section deserve to go to state. They would put up a fight at state also....except WBL cant get by the first round, hehe. <p></p><i></i>

[EREmpireStrikesBack]

I don't know, I like the idea of sections based on geography rather than "team strength". Hell, who knows, two of the teams might have a few off years in the future. I think that sections should be geographical. <p>Elk River AA State Champions- 2001 Boys & 2004 Girls</p><i></i>

[winner62]

i absolutely do not<br><br>then you get crap teams in the state tourney such as rochester century elk river <p></p><i></i>

[Aisforlosers]

Since when are sections split up because of the number of skilled teams? I thought that the section assignments are based on geography, not on the number of teams that are ranked! C'mon, quit crying. There will always be a section or 2 that is tougher, but it goes in cycles, more or less, don't you think? <br><br>I think that it's total BS that there are suburban teams in section 7AA. That should be all northern teams, although I get it that there are AD's that make horsecrap decisions like Greenway's who opt down to A and then other teams have to switch sections. How many of the players and coaches in Greenway want to play in A? <p></p><i></i>

[winner62]

well do u like watching rochester century and elk river instead of a good competitive team becuase i know i don't i would much rather see the best players in the state then the best of a crappy geographical alignment this is a joke <p></p><i></i>

[ptown tigers]

Elk River is like 4 years removed from winning state. You call that crap? Also in that section Anoka won it like two years ago. <p>Good Teams Would be Nothin without Good Water.....</p><i></i>

[hillhockey]

Well it would be nice to have this section split up but we do have the best section in the state, and even though the road will be tougher for HM in 3AA in 2AA, at least if HM goes to state they won't have a cakewalk.<br>It's too bad the HM-WBL did not occur this year but that game is always so much fun, especially when we dont give the bears a chance to lose in the first round.<br><br>Oh well like someone once said it's that you are the best in your region and I guess it just so happens that 3AA-the northeast/east metro have the best teams in the state. And don't discount teams like stillwater either! <p></p><i></i>

[Hillfan]

I'm still wondering if there will be a meeting? I mean, I saw 1AA,2AA,3AA,5AA untouched. Why? There has to be some type of meeting.... <br><br>3AA is fun to watch don't get me wrong, but it's a shame when you have 3-4 very solid contendors thrown in there. <p></p><i></i>

[hcky0809]

Get over it - do you think 3AA is the only section that has had more than one team capable of competing for a state championship. I would say this year, there were only two very strong teams - WBL and Centennial up to the task. As I recall Roseville was beaten pretty handily by both of the teams in recent outings and HM, well enough said - I believe they lost to a lowly NSP. I know - they beat Moorhead - but like it has been said - anything can happen on any given day. That is exactly why Section final games for the most part, and have historically been, the most entertaining and best matches for overall match of talent and competitiveness. The state tournament is not designed to have the "best" teams represented in the tourney. They only way you could ever have that is having a seeding process versus a sectional play off and that just isn't going to happen. Sure, it would be nice to see that, but I have absolutely no complaints about the teams and games that were played in this year's tournament (except maybe for the first round of single A on Wed.). 3AA may appear to be the section that is strongest at this point in time, but down the road it will probably be a different section or sections. It's all cyclical. The "best" teams do not always win the state championship either but does that diminish the accomplishments for those teams - absolutely not. <p></p><i></i>

[dog36]

Exactly ER. People seem to forget that up until last year 3AA was basically the Hill/WBL section. 123,000 people showed up this year to watch the Tournament the way it is. Until that changes, the MSHSL is going to stick with the Geographical regions.<br><br>As for Tartan(out of an "inferior" section), I think they proved themselves worthy with their performance. They beat a team from section 4AA (3 out of last 5 state champs) and gave this years state champs all they could handle for 46 minutes, they just couldn't finish.<br><br><br><br> <p></p><i></i>

[Aisforlosers]

Hey loser62 - It would be REAL feasable to have a matchup like Roseau vs. a Rochester school in the sectionals on a Thursday night, right? Let's have schools from one corner of the state play somebody from another corner just to get the best teams to state? Think before you type. It would not work. <p></p><i></i>

[Hillfan]

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[hck4life]

u have arguably the 2 best youth programs in the state wbl n centennial that have both reach a status now of state contender every year. hill will have a awesome team next year and always be dangerous and exciting to watch. roseville is always a solid program plus with stillwater on the rise this section will get split up eventually. its just a shame its at least another 2 years away. theres always a sliver lining and thats to we get to see prolly the best section tournament in the state. <p></p><i></i>

[nutcup]

Something should be done with 3AA.What i dont get though is that the 2 years Roseville went to state they came out of 2AA and then they got moved back into 3. What was the point of that? That Roseville vs WBL game a few years ago at state was one of the best games ive ever seen. If you split some of these teams apart like WBL and Hill, they could play in state and if a rivalry like that played, wow. There needs to be better competition in state. <p></p><i></i>

[Hillfan]

As far as 3AA, I'm talking about <!--EZCODE UNDERLINE START--><span style="text-decoration:underline">next year</span><!--EZCODE UNDERLINE END-->. Hill is going to be up next year, from this year. They lose 6 seniors, 4 in which played. Centennial and White Bear will be good, as always. And who knows how Roseville, Stillwater, and North will be. <br><br>I see 6AA way to strong. They should really do something to that section as well. <p></p><i></i>

[Lumpy21]

We had some spirited discussions this weekend on the flaws of the current system. 3AA teams are victimized regularly by the current playoff format, and the Class A field is victimized every year by powerhouse programs that won't move up to AA. Here's our solution:<br><br>Replicate the NCAA Basketball "March Madness" format. Rank the teams in the state...the top 64 play for the Tier I title and the rest play for the Tier II title. The first three rounds could be handled in the same fashion as the Section tournaments are currently handled, and the final three rounds would be the State Tournament. Very little change would be required to pull this off, and it would produce much more parity in both fields at state. Most importantly, strong, deserving teams (i.e. Centennial, Hill, etc.) would not be eliminated from tourney participation just because of their location. <p></p><i></i>

[nolookpassguy]

I'm a little disappointed in the information I received about potential changes in sections. The high school league is concerned about making money. The hockey tourney is a huge revenue maker for the league. The unfortunate thing is attendance has grown the last few years. They see this as a good thing. Their philosphy is, "if it ain't broke, why fix it"? They realized people will always come to the AA tournament pretty much regardless of who is playing. If attendance were to dip because so many good teams didn't make it, then they would be forced to re-evaluate their product. Part of that would be to spread the stronger schools in the metro around and try to ensure a more attractive tournament. This will never happen. Unless something drastic happens, section 2AA will be terrible next year. Tartan will slide back to be another average team. Hasting's best player will be playing Juniors right after football season. Woodbury is average. Cretin will likely be the top seed & I doubt that they will be ranked in the top 15. Meanwhile, every other section (with the exception of 1AA) will have multiple teams superior to the 2AA winner that will not make it to State. I guess that is what makes sections so magical & the tournament almost anti-climatic. Another two years of the same situations & frustrations. <p></p><i></i>