One version that I've heard is this. Thoughts???
Any player changing schools (except entering 7th & 9th grade) will sit out PLAYOFFS ONLY that season.
Some like this as it allows player to play all season, doesn't penalize many natural school transitions (entering MSHSL eligibility & HS), but doesn't allow them to be of value in sections/state that first season.
I'll reserve my opinion for later...
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I've also heard - sit 2nd half of year (including playoffs) for 1st xfer... and the "full year" one too.
I don't know how you handle natural transition years (entering HS & MSHSL eligiblity (7th)) and even then it's tough as some schools don't start until 10th, middle schools/Jr High can start/end at different grades, privates have differnt grades to start in, etc.
I don't know how you handle natural transition years (entering HS & MSHSL eligiblity (7th)) and even then it's tough as some schools don't start until 10th, middle schools/Jr High can start/end at different grades, privates have differnt grades to start in, etc.
Why a 7th and 9th grade exception. high School doesn't start until 9th grade, so you should not get penalized for 8th grade either.
I think that there still needs to be a "free" transfer on the books, because not all transfers are for athletics, so you shouldn't be penalized athletically for that. I think it would be fair to miss a part of a season (be it first half, second half or post season) if the transfer is a senior. Then its pretty hard to convince anybody the reason for a transfer is academic.
Personally, my family transferred a student this year (sophomore) a year earlier than we had been planning on. We wanted him to transfer as a junior so he could drive himself the 20 miles to school. He wanted more choice and class options with an emphasis on higher level class to prepare himself for college, as well as post secondary options, and that was not offered at our local school. With the MSHSL putting together a committee to study the open enrollment issues and rumors of the MSHSL mirrorinr the Wisconsin rules, we had to enroll him as a sophmore so he can still participate in extra curricular activities as a junior. Now we have to deal with the added headache and stress of getting him to school as well as bad weather plans, school cancellations, school functions etc. since he can not drive yet.
I think that there still needs to be a "free" transfer on the books, because not all transfers are for athletics, so you shouldn't be penalized athletically for that. I think it would be fair to miss a part of a season (be it first half, second half or post season) if the transfer is a senior. Then its pretty hard to convince anybody the reason for a transfer is academic.
Personally, my family transferred a student this year (sophomore) a year earlier than we had been planning on. We wanted him to transfer as a junior so he could drive himself the 20 miles to school. He wanted more choice and class options with an emphasis on higher level class to prepare himself for college, as well as post secondary options, and that was not offered at our local school. With the MSHSL putting together a committee to study the open enrollment issues and rumors of the MSHSL mirrorinr the Wisconsin rules, we had to enroll him as a sophmore so he can still participate in extra curricular activities as a junior. Now we have to deal with the added headache and stress of getting him to school as well as bad weather plans, school cancellations, school functions etc. since he can not drive yet.
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Your Choice
RLStars,
Quit your whinning about having to drive your child. It was your choice!
Quit your whinning about having to drive your child. It was your choice!
Ouch, that was a little harsh! 
I'm not whinning at all, just stating that there are reasons for transferring other then athletics and adopting a transfer rule similar to Wisconsins that penalized a kid severely for transferring as a junior or senior is going overboard. There are economic and legistical reason for transferring at a certain point in a childs high school years that doesn't involve athletics as a motivator and most people seem to think if a student transfers, it is automatically for sports. I get asked that every other day and the team he will play with this winter is nowhere near a sectional champion.
Obviously it was our choice. The only thing that a rule such as Wisconsins is going to do is reduce transfers as juniors and seniors and increase transfers as sophomores and open enrollees as freashman.
I'm not whinning at all, just stating that there are reasons for transferring other then athletics and adopting a transfer rule similar to Wisconsins that penalized a kid severely for transferring as a junior or senior is going overboard. There are economic and legistical reason for transferring at a certain point in a childs high school years that doesn't involve athletics as a motivator and most people seem to think if a student transfers, it is automatically for sports. I get asked that every other day and the team he will play with this winter is nowhere near a sectional champion.
Obviously it was our choice. The only thing that a rule such as Wisconsins is going to do is reduce transfers as juniors and seniors and increase transfers as sophomores and open enrollees as freashman.
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I agree with you that the response was harsh. However, I sort of agree with finatic (I think). While transportation is important to families, I'm of the opinion that it's simply part of the price to pay for an open enrollment transfer. In other words, plan ahead, if switching schools is that important.RLStars wrote:Ouch, that was a little harsh!
I'm not whinning at all, just stating that there are reasons for transferring other then athletics and adopting a transfer rule similar to Wisconsins that penalized a kid severely for trnsferring as a junior or senior is going overboard. There are economic and legistical reason for transferring at a certain point in a childs high school years that doesn't involve athletics as a motivator and most people seem to think if a student transfers, it automatically for sports. I get asked that every other day.
I like this proposal. It discourages transfers to join a state contender, but most importantly, it allows participation for those who truly do transfer for academics.
One other question I have; might some 10th graders still transfer to an EP or SSP, and sacrifice one playoff in order to be on a powerhouse for their last 2 years?
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I agree that one free xfer would be good, but it hasn't done enough as of yet.
Why 7 & 9 but not 8 free xfer? Probably because most schools aren't a transition year entering 8th.
I could see this going a number of ways. I just thought the discusision was interesting.
Some say xfers shouldn't be able to play playoffs ever, some say 2 years, some say no exemptions (if you xfer no matter the grade you should sit the playoffs), some say don't allow Sr/Upper Classmen transfers to play at all, etc., etc.
The problem is that no rule is perfect and as a result you're going to punish some kids that shouldn't be, etc.
Why 7 & 9 but not 8 free xfer? Probably because most schools aren't a transition year entering 8th.
I could see this going a number of ways. I just thought the discusision was interesting.
Some say xfers shouldn't be able to play playoffs ever, some say 2 years, some say no exemptions (if you xfer no matter the grade you should sit the playoffs), some say don't allow Sr/Upper Classmen transfers to play at all, etc., etc.
The problem is that no rule is perfect and as a result you're going to punish some kids that shouldn't be, etc.