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DaddyHock
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Post by DaddyHock »

If you are looking for another opinion... In a week or so will will have a much better grasp of the teams. Some associations did not have their teams together until the end of Oct while others were done and scrimmaging by the first part of Oct. Some of the larger associations that have 2 teams have 2nd year kids that did not make the A team and they need a few games to get over that. The new system of play will have an impact on the games at first also. The faster and better conditioned teams should be at the top. In the end, the top team will be the best coached team.
ShootPassScore
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Post by ShootPassScore »

Observer can you break down every thanksgiving tournament? My money is on blank to finish third.

I cant go to another game tonight. My wife is going to kill me if I keep up this pace. Instead I will park in front of the TV and sip frothy ones to the sound of the immortal "Husky women" chant as the Golden Gophers take SCSU for 6.

I will however be at the Edina white v Blake game tomorrow afternoon. What else is big this weekend? EP Red v Centennial Red Sunday.

LPH top 5 is on the website. I'm sure the Don already knew that.
ice00breaker
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Post by ice00breaker »

Yeah the top looked pretty good except I think that Centennial Red is overrated (although, they did majorly outplay EP Red). I have the rankings now, too:

1. Wayzata Blue
2. EP Black
3. Cent. Red
4. Edina Green
5. Duluth East
6. Moorhead Black
7. Blaine
8. Edina White
9. EP Red
10. WBL Black
11. Chaska
12. Rochester Black
13. Burnsville
14. Stillwater
15. Blake
16. Maple Grove
17. WBL Orange
18. Grand Rapids
19. Eagan
20. Roseau

And here's what I think about the teams:

Centennial Red= overrated
Edina Green (after losing the last two)= overrated
Moorhead Black= overrated
Blaine= underrated
Edina White= underrated
EP Red= underrated
Chaska=underrated

It is too early to tell how MG will be, but if they're anything like 2 years ago then teams better look out. They split teams last year and one of them was dominant, and it wasnt a B1-1 Team. Now combined, they should be dangerous.

Also, how can Roseau be ranked? Maybe they are surprising, I am definitely too far away to watch them, but dont they only have 2 teams? that means they will probably have some C like players on there.
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MNHockeyObserver
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Post by MNHockeyObserver »

Get me the brackets and I can break 'em all down.
Apparently, I greatly underestimated Blank. I don't make it to as many of their games and I know their lower level teams aren't playing as much due to scheduling successes. They are just one upset away from Third Place.

Actually Sunday is not a Red v Red rematch, it is the first meeting between EP Black and Centennial Red. Makes for a different game in the Greater Lino Lakes Area. Will be anxious to hear about the White/Blake game.

Top 20 looks pretty good, although I am sure I would move some people around a little. With Blue, Black, White and East (what color would East be? hmmm) all near the top 5 (White being underrated and all), the Moose is shaping up to be an amazing weekend!!
hockeyman57
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Post by hockeyman57 »

On Thursday EP Red beat Centennial Black 4-1. They outshot them 35-5. Anyone heard the score of EP Black vs Burnsville
Iron8
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Upset?

Post by Iron8 »

Burnsville knocks off EP Black at home 3-2.
portsb1bombers
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Post by portsb1bombers »

Burnsville 3 EP Black 2. Burnsville outshot EP 32-17. Tons of penalties. Burnsville wanted the win more than EP. :twisted:
HShockey2180
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Post by HShockey2180 »

Anyone know any scores from up north? How are those teams this year?
ShootPassScore
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Post by ShootPassScore »

Burnsville is shaping up to be quite a plucky little team. I'd look out for them D6. Who has Maple Grove played to earn their way into the top 20 out of nowhere? I can't find anything on the website.

Great Gophers game last night but it sounded like I should've gone to the D6 game. I bet the Red v Red match tomorrow will be a battle. I might have to meander over to I35 and head up there for that one. I pick EP 5-1. I think Centennial is struggling to find themselves right now. Don't get me wrong they'll be there as the season goes. However, right now EagleGuy is a good pick. You cant back his teams into corners they get pissed.

Looks like Roseville has a Blank team too. Does anyone know if they are unbalanced teams. If they arent I gotta go with Blank to finish third again.

I'll let you know about Blake and White tonight.
Charliedog
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Roseville

Post by Charliedog »

Roseville only had 41 skaters tryout for traveling Bantams this year. The B1 team has a few at the top and a few at the bottom. The balance of the team could go either way by the end of the season, but it looks like they will need the entire season to get there!

What is a "blank" team?
theoneandonly
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Post by theoneandonly »

Chaska tied Jefferson 2-2, Jefferson was winning the whole game until chaska scored with 40 seconds left.

and ya what is a "blank team"
ice00breaker
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Post by ice00breaker »

I also went to that game and I thought Jefferson once again got dominated. Since you are a Jefferson parent or player, I am sure you will think otherwise, but the truth is that Chaska dominated.They outshot, outmuscled, and most importantly outskated Jefferson. From the 2 times I have watched Chaska play, it seems that they have trouble finishing plays and cant find the back of the net. The penalties are allowing the games to become more close, but I still dont like the new enforced rules and it is a shame to see the game start to turn into a basketball like sport.
MNHockeyObserver
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Post by MNHockeyObserver »

Wow!! Lots of "upsets" last night. I suppose this early in the season they aren't really upsets as teams are finding themselves and the rankers are learning more every day.

I hate to explain this 'cause it is so much fun for people to wonder, buuuttttt . . . a 'blank" team is the team listed on the brackets when a tourney only has 7 entries for eight spots. Right now the SuperRink and Roseville tourneys over Thanksgiving only have 7 teams entered. Could take come creativity on the part of the tournament host to fill that spot or avoid a bye. Our little joke is that a team that doesn't exist would win a game.
wild99
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Post by wild99 »

I agree with icebreaker, chaska totally dominated jefferson in every aspect of the game, if not for so many penalties i think chaska could have came out 7-2
theoneandonly
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Post by theoneandonly »

i also agree with icebreaker chaska totally dominated the game but jeffersons goalie had a great gameso it kept it close
ice00breaker
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Post by ice00breaker »

Yes that was the thing I forgot to point out. Jefferson looked like they had very strong goalies in both games/scrimmages I watched them play. Threee people had to back to the locker room for Chaska and 1 for Jefferson because of illegal mouthguards or neckguards. In the midle of the 1st period, it was Chaska's goalie that didn't have proper equipment and they had to put in an cold goalie. Immediately Jeffersonn scored. Chaska looked like a great penalty killing team but once again their powerplay struggled. Even though about half of the game to 2 periods of the game was played with penalties, every goal came with 5-on-5 play.
wild99
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Post by wild99 »

no, actually chaska scored their first goal on a 4-3
ice00breaker
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Post by ice00breaker »

I wasn't sure about that first goal of Chaska's, thanks for correcting me. That was a great shot by that kid, sniped that corner
portsb1bombers
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Post by portsb1bombers »

Burnsville 2 Edina Green 2
I have not seen such poor refing in my life. What the heck, they have created a situation where the refs are totally in control of the outcome of the game. They've also made the game not fun to play or watch as a fan. The HEP program is a good thing and was cleaning the game up just fine. I see more hitting in basketball.
ShootPassScore
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Post by ShootPassScore »

I believe the refs will be calling more penalties this season so that we adjust. It will take time for the skills of the kids to improve. The new rules will undoubtedly make the US a better place to raise hockey players. Every other country stresses these skills. We got dependent on using the stick instead of hustling to catch up and use the body. This year is going to be frustrating but in the end we will be better for it. Anyone agree/disagree?

Edina White tied Blake. White was a better team Sat. showed it toward the end. Blake was gritty. Lots of penalties for both. Blake has lots of promise.
ShootPassScore
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Post by ShootPassScore »

Does anyone have a score from the EP v Centennial matchup from yesterday? EagleGuy?
EagleGuy91
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Post by EagleGuy91 »

Did someone call my name?

Scrimmage yesterday was EP Black 2, Centennial 0.
EP Black played much better yesterday (even without 2 skaters). I think we identified what caused up problems against Burnsville and we will adjust our schedule to try to avoid it in the future. I take nothing away from Bville. They played very hard and deserved the win, I just wish we had given a better showing.

And I have to say, I love reading all the Bantam B input. Not as prestigious as Bantam A, but certainly quite a following of 9 pages worth of input to-date. I suggest we make a blood-oath-pact . . . ok, maybe a handshake . . . to try and keep the Bantam B discussion in this thread for easy access and so many more reasons. All in favor, say Aye? (To yourselves, please! No flooding the board with one-word posts that say Aye.)
ice00breaker
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Post by ice00breaker »

Did EP Black dominate the game or was it pretty even? What were the teams' strengths and weaknesses?
EagleGuy91
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Post by EagleGuy91 »

Not at all. It was a very well played, even matchup. I believe Centennial actually outshot us (EP-B), but goaltending was the difference. Each team had a couple players out for different reasons.

As for strengths and weaknesses . . .go to the rink . . .you want my high school locker combination, too?
ice00breaker
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Post by ice00breaker »

I got o the rink a lot more than you, I practically live at the rink. I don't think you really needed to make a comment like that. Good class though.
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