STA vs. CDH

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CDH or STA?

CDH
34
49%
STA
36
51%
 
Total votes: 70

pondhockey225
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Post by pondhockey225 »

What happened?
Stiches3507
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Post by Stiches3507 »

Crendall didnt play well at all...and the CDH goalie played an outstanding game...STA didnt finish anything...they just thought they were going to dominate like they always do and it hit them in the face...i was disappointed in Crendalls play...hes a better tender than that
pondhockey225
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Post by pondhockey225 »

how were STA's forwards looking? Any standouts from cdh w/o hickey?
Stiches3507
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Post by Stiches3507 »

Umm idk...i was at a scrimmage and when it was over i watched the last period so i couldnt really tell you who and what...but all i know...is that CDH walked all over STA...STA's forwards got some good chances...but they didnt do anything with them...they just tried to be hot shots and would cough up a 2 on 0 by missing passes and such...not a good game by STA
pondhockey225
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Post by pondhockey225 »

anyone think anything would change with a rematch?
grindiangrad-80
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Post by grindiangrad-80 »

I thought both teams played well.
CDH just capitalized on their opportunities.
They will both be hard to beat at the end.
MNHocker444
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Post by MNHocker444 »

I think it was a well played game except for STA's defense and Crandell. To me he looked like he had a very off night
breakout
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Post by breakout »

I watched it on T.V. It appeared that Crandell had an off night. His D didn't help much either. A lot of sloppy play in front of the net and too many CDH players allowed to get to the net.
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Post by mnjorc »

We shall see about a rematch. We may get one in five days. Both teams have a few games to win though without any practices in between. It could be interesting. I think that STA will take this loss as a lesson and learn from it. They just need to learn really quick. I am starting to watch the FSN coverage. It will be interesting to see what they say, and its always interesting to see the game from a different angle.
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Post by HShockeywatcher »

I know everyone likes to bash my personal opinion, but it is that St Thomas' defense just plain sucked today. I didn't see the Tartan game, so maybe they just only played with one eye open today, or what, but they didn't show up.

Cretin capitalized very well, where St Thomas did not at all. Cretin had a few huge plays.

Crandall was off, but not as horrible as everyone was saying. The best goalie in the world will get scored on with no help.

All in all, I completely disagreed with the announcers saying Cretin dominated on the ice, with all the numbers aside from goals being favored for St Thomas it appeared and the feel of the game. Very much respect for this good Cretin team. BUT, all that being said, I think St Thomas lost this one, and basically gave it to Cretin, Cretin didn't really win it per say.
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Post by HShockeywatcher »

The thing I thought was funny, is that in their last 34 (including today) meetings, St Thomas is 30-3-1, having the last three times they met be the 3 losses and that before today Cretin was the last team to beat St Thomas.

Doesn't saying anything about today, but I thought St Thomas sucked before three years ago at hockey. Did Cretin suck worse????
topshelf10
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CDH vs. STA

Post by topshelf10 »

"Cretin didn't really win it" "with all the numbers aside from goals being favored for St Thomas it appeared and the feel of the game" You have got to be kidding me. How can you say the feel of the game favored STA. They came out and let in three goals in the first period! Almost the entire game was Cretin (minus the first part of the 2nd).
Not saying Cretin is a better team, but they definitely played like it today. I couldn't tell you what STA's defensemen were doing. Also, STA seemed to not want to shoot the puck. They thought they could dangle around the Cretin D.
No, HShockeywatcher, Cretin did dominate the ice tonight.
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Post by HShockeywatcher »

I think we agree, but you don't like my wording.

St Thomas' first game this year they were down 0-3 after the first. If you were to never know the score, watch the 50 minutes of the game where those three goals didn't go in, you would've said Marshall didn't have a chance.
To get to State two years ago St Thomas played a Lourdes team that made St Thomas win it 2-1 in OT. At no point in the game would you say Lourdes had a fighting chance, but the Cadets couldn't get the puck in the net.

Not bashing Cretin at all, but I don't think either team was dominant today. St Thomas killed like 6 penalties, or something like that. Both teams did play really well. But in my opinion, the times when St Thomas didn't play well, Cretin capitalized. A couple sweet goals, but I don't think it took anything special to beat the St Thomas D that showed up today. That's all I'm saying.
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Post by packerboy »

Why did it happen?

Why did the goalies and defensmen not look good?

Why, oh why was today was so different. This is not a recording from the last time they played.

Do you really not know?

STA wasnt ready to play CDH today. Why? They werent prepared for it. Why? They dont play anybody and today they were playing a top notch team.

I said it was going to make a difference and the reponse was"Oh no, look at AHA" "Its about the players" The first period, STA looked like they were playing in their first game of the season.

Maybe they were.
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Post by Neutron 14 »

It was NCAA vs NIT. Whadya expect?
Cristo
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Post by Cristo »

packerboy wrote:Why did it happen?

Why did the goalies and defensmen not look good?

Why, oh why was today was so different. This is not a recording from the last time they played.

Do you really not know?

STA wasnt ready to play CDH today. Why? They werent prepared for it. Why? They dont play anybody and today they were playing a top notch team.

I said it was going to make a difference and the reponse was"Oh no, look at AHA" "Its about the players" The first period, STA looked like they were playing in their first game of the season.

Maybe they were.
Excellent point.

STA did their fair share of running stairs as a result, an hour up and down the bleachers.
HShockeywatcher
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Post by HShockeywatcher »

You are very right. I'm not going to say they couldn't have played a better game, but they've only played one game so far with any competition and that was three days ago. I was hoping shutting Tartan out and doing it in Oakdale would help some, but I guess not. They have had no competition yet, and all Cretin has had is competition. Crandall did make some pretty sweet saves, but he also let in some pretty easy goals.

All in all, it was St Thomas' first glimpse of competition. A loss was probably good for a reality check, and good for them to not be too confident for Edina. That being said, I stay with what I said before, offense was good for both teams, defense was only good for one. The one who it wasn't good for lost.
ocanadaourhome
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What a great HS hockey mind.

Post by ocanadaourhome »

Neutron 14 wrote:It was NCAA vs NIT. Whadya expect?
Hey spaded and neutered.. For someone with 746 posts, I would at least expect something remotely intelligent. I guess Chaska is NIT and your insightfullness as well.
HShockeywatcher
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Post by HShockeywatcher »

Did they really? That's funny. Hopefully they can live and learn and beat Edina.
packerboy
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Post by packerboy »

HS, Tartan just gave up 73 shots to ....Johnson.

I don't think its the players who ought to be runnin the stairs. They did the best they could.
HShockeywatcher
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Post by HShockeywatcher »

That means Tartan had 71 saves then...
HockeyMom123
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Def/Goalie

Post by HockeyMom123 »

Defense- Small, slow and the coaches relatives had numerous errors. Crandall can win games only when the Offense puts up points and if he has less then 15 shots on net.
HShockeywatcher
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Post by HShockeywatcher »

I think you meant coach's son.

You are right, it is hard to win if your offense doesn't put up goals, not points.

How many shots on goal did Crandall have in Thursday's game?
HockeyMom123
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Post by HockeyMom123 »

Tartan Game Crandell 12 tartan goalie 35

I think Mulhally is a nephew to the coach.

Also week STA conference- good for yearly stats.
HShockeywatcher
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Post by HShockeywatcher »

Week conference? This is probably the weskest it's been in a long time.
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