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BB1 Games tonight, Chaska vs. Edina Green

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Who won this game tonight?

Any other big games tonight?
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Edina Green 3
Chaska 2

OT
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Edina Green wins 3-2 in overtime. The worst officiating i have ever seen in my life. They called at about 12-15 penalties on chaska and 1 on edina. Yeah chaska had some penalties that should have been and were called but edina had there share of interference and hooking penalties that went uncalled. Chaska killed off all penalties but one and because of it were gassed in the third. Also on chaska scored on their one and only powerplay only to have a interference penalty to be called after the puck went in the net resulting in the officials to wave it off. Now all you edina faithful don't get mad at me, because as i said chaska had their fare share of penalties too, but i think i saw just a spot of green on the officials sleeve tonight. How much do you think edina payed them. I'm guessing anywhere between 175-250 $. But other than the poor officiating it was a well fought battle between both sides!
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sorry missed a part of a sentence, on chaska's one and only powerplay they scored only to have it waved off due to an iterference penalty
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Post by blueblood »

Other D6 game:

Jefferosn - 3
Tonka - 6
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Blueblood,

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How many goals did that Swenson kid have for Tonka?
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Tonka goals

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his line scored 4 and he got 2
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Tonka Goals

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Thanks for the insight.

That was fast as you must be his dad.
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Swenny

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I am not his dad.
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The women referee was definitely over her head for Boys Bantam Hockey and should stick to lower levels of play more appropriate for her refereeing ability. I do point out the fact she was a women for a reason; closed circuit to female referee, checking is allowed in boys hockey! First penalty was called a hit to the head, last year it would have been called a check. The only reason the head was touched was because the body collasped onto the hands of the clean check to the upper torso

Final penalty tally Chaska 9 Edina 2 - Chaska should have recieved maybe 4-5 penalties. An Edina player was actually put in the box and complained he did nothing wrong and was let out. Maybe mistaken identity?

Chaska had many good chances that they did not capitalize on or were thwarted by some nice saves by the Edina goalie.

Chaska stopped skating in the 3rd, Both teams did not look on top of their game. Edina was off on their passing and could have been far more dangerous if they connected more.

Edina gained the victory in Ot by continuing to work hard, Chaska made too many defensive zone giveaways. Maybe due to all the penalty killing they did earlier? The puck was inches from leaving the zone but the Chaska player lost track of where the puck was and Edina was given 2-3 more opportunities before they scored.

I would have told the referee after regulation that there was no way I would let her judge the outcome of OT.

I find it twilight zone strange that there could 8 minutes remaining on the hour clock after a game with that amount of penalities, stoppages and a 3-4 minute delay for a goalie injury? I don't believe the hour clock started when it should have when the boys stepped on the ice for warm-up?

As stated Edina gained the victory. Hope these two teams meet again in Districts
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Post by wingsrule »

[quote="tomASS"]

I find it twilight zone strange that there could 8 minutes remaining on the hour clock after a game with that amount of penalities, stoppages and a 3-4 minute delay for a goalie injury? I don't believe the hour clock started when it should have when the boys stepped on the ice for warm-up?


Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the hour clock is set to 90 minutes at the Bantam level. In this case it may have had time remaining even with the number of penalties assessed by the "referee" during this battle of rivals. Always competitive games when Chaska, Bloomington, Edina and Eden Prairie face off against each other.

Never liked the hour clock when it effects the outcome of a close game.
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Post by tomASS »

wingsrule - 90 minutes for Bantam A (your are correct) 75 minutes for Bantam B1 (no ice resurfacing)

Good thought

Edina worked harder than Chaska in OT ....maybe I'm just grasping, whining, or looking for excuses.

Let's play again!
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tomASS wrote:The women referee was definitely over her head for Boys Bantam Hockey and should stick to lower levels of play more appropriate for her refereeing ability. I do point out the fact she was a women for a reason; closed circuit to female referee, checking is allowed in boys hockey! First penalty was called a hit to the head, last year it would have been called a check. The only reason the head was touched was because the body collasped onto the hands of the clean check to the upper torso
The Ref that you had last night for your game is one of the highest rated refs in D6. She has worked in the WCHA as well as international events. I highly doubt that she was over her head working a B-1. Maybe Chaska was overmatched... and that's too bad cause I coached alot of the kids on that team last year.
tomASS wrote:The only reason the head was touched was because the body collasped onto the hands of the clean check to the upper torso
Can you explain to me how a body collapsed in and his head hit the other kids hands at his torso? Unless the person appling the check had their hands at their chest... Then it was probably roufing.

Finally tom... get some skates a whistle and some stripes and try it yourself!
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Post by ice00breaker »

QuackerTracker,

If you werent even at the game then how could you possibly make comments on it. Maybe the game was reffed badly this time, and there are two people who have said that now. I wont make comments on the refs although I thought it was poorly reffeed also, but 5 on 5 the game was even and I have no clue how you could say Chaska was overmatched when they forced the game into OT despite being in the box most of the first 2 and a half periods.

P.S. Anyone going to red v.s. black Saturday
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quacker - then she was definitely having a very very off off night. I would challege any Edina fan to say they would have been happy if their team recieved the penalities the Chaska team were accessed.

quacker - a good clean check is a good clean check, their was no additional steps taken to make it. Just because a player is hit hard and goes to the ice in a heap because he was skating with his head down does not make it roughing penalty.
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Was anyone who's kid did not play for either team at the game to say the ref did a bad job? Sounds like your kid plays for Chaska and you are upset cause they lost.

But as I said, get a whistle and try it for yourself. What is seen from the ice is a differnt game that what you see in the stands. The ref is generally 10-20 feet from a check. A fan is usually 70-100. Things look very differn't. But most of all it sounds like you are sexest...
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Quacker - I have refereed at the college and above level in a sport that also uses a 3 person system. If I didn't need two new knees I would still be doing it today. I have also done training and assessment of officials within that sport. No referee job is ever easy, but based on the referee's performance last night, I stand by that if she is as qualified as you indicate, she was having a very bad night and if you asked her to evalute herself I believe, if she was honest, would then also agree that if was not her finest performance. If not then the assessment process in this state for hockey referees needs to be improved.

As far as being sexist, the game was called like she was too accustomed to doing girls high school games. The first penalty was a travesty to the sport of men's hockey where checking is still allowed. If that is sexist then the rule implemented between the two genders for the same sport is sexist and a referee better be able to adjust the way they call the game then.

As far as distance and being able to see the calls, 9 vs. 2 I don't think she was able to see the forest through the trees.
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Post by QuackerTracker »

Tom - At least you have come down from the 12-15 penalties to the truth of 9. Good luck with the knees though I am not sure you have evaluated before but you name says enough for me!
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Post by tomASS »

I was always at 9 penalties, I have assessed soccer officials before and your name also is very telling good thing your not a doctor.
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