St Thomas @ Hill-Murray 1-11-07

[Ankles Pierre, Jr.]

One thing that could've changed the game a little bit was the lack of penalty calling on Hill.

...the fact that STA had more penalties than HM….

Power Plays - STA 0-6; HM 1-3.

[Trashman]

Excuses are like.......oh wait everyone knows that one already

[tourneytickssince59]

Some of these posts make me wonder what game some of you were at or what you saw through your blue tinted goggles.

STA , except for stretches of the second period, was thoroughly dominated by HM. The score probably should have been at least 7 - 2 in favor of HM. I counted at least 3 pipes/crossbars and 3 more missed wide open nets for Hill. STAs goalie made some wondeful stops but gave up some juicy rebounds that jsut couldn't be put away.

HM first line of 26, 18 and 7 looked pretty good. #21 for STA had a real good game but just couldn't finish.

One thing I couldn't understand, and why the refs let it continue I am not sure, was alll the yapping and in your face stuff after the whistles.

I think the rematch will be a good game as both teams should continue to improve and will go either way but doesn't really matter because the time to lose is now not the end of Feb beginning of March. Just ask last years AHA team .

[Pioneerprideguy]

Both goalies played well. Crandall kept STA in it early and denied HM on a couple of add man chances. Flip was big again and seemed in control the whole game. The goal STA scored, Hill's D didn't give him much help. I thought it was a decent game, but overall, it seemed to lack the flow/speed I was expecting to see. I think the tight officating may have played into it. But nice win for the Pioneers.

The addition of Westerhaus to Hill's 2nd line was a nice move. Gives them 2 very strong/balanced lines. I believe Singerhouse will be moved up from JV and be slotted on the 3rd line which will be a big addition for them. If Hill's D continue to improve and Flip plays like he did last night, could be enjoyable 2nd 1/2 of the season for the Pioneers.

[HShockeywatcher]

The thing AP forgot to quote from me saying that is that I didn't think the extra penalties would've changed the game. What is wrong with my analysis? I think Phillippi's a great goalie, I just don't think he had that great of a game. Anyone who was their saw that St Thomas screwed up about 5 easy scoring chances where Phillippi was out of position. That's all I'm saying. And as far as Crandall having a good game, he made a lot of really good saves as St Thomas was very much out played and the puck was in their side of the ice probably 3/4 of the game. I was being completely honest with everything I said and trying to inform people of the game. Hill is the better team by far, but St Thomas definitely played up to them and kept it close. There were probably 5 tripping calls that were missing, one while St Thomas was on a power play. But in the end, the refs didn't blow the game, St Thomas did.

[Hillfan]

Well it seems as though "The Joker Nick Larson" did indeed do the talking for me that I refrained from doing earlier .

Anyways a good win for H-M. Had Crandall not played the way he did, it could have been 2, maybe 3 more goals for the Pioneers. As mentioned, Flip also played well and made a couple of big stops when he needed too.

And I'm glad you clarified that HSHockeywatcher. STA had their share of chances on the power play, but were shut down, so blaming the refs would be uncalled for. Besides, the Cadets had a mere 3 penalties called on them, so it's not like they were sitting in the box the whole night...

[stpaul]

Has anyone seen enough of HM's JV to know how good Singerhouse, Widing & O'Brien have been playing? Will any of them be moved up to the varsity?

[tourneytickssince59]

From what one of the STA JV players told me, HM JV lost 4-2.
Not sure how the 3 players did though.

Is checking from behind a 2, 10 and one game supsension?
If so, one of HM d is out for Staurday's game.

[hast-h-fan]

Boy what happened to STA BIG D??? No one keeping an eye on Larson huh?

[ChrisK]

Boy, reading the yapping back and forth here is as entertaining as the Warroad-Roseau and Duluth East-Cloquet banter, I think this might turn into a rivalry. STA needs to stay competitive with Hill for this to really take off and moving up to AA would give it some weight. I was at last year's game at Aldrich and one my enduring images is that of Hill's Arrigoni and an STA player smacktalking to each other all the way to the penalty box and continuing it as they did their time. I'll have to try to make it to the game this year at STA, hopefully I won't face a conundrum if there's another good game the same night.

And HSHockeyWatcher, it's Sparlimb not Starlimb.

[stpaul]

This one will turn into a great rivalry. They have played very competetive games over the past 3 years or so. The two schools will continue be the top contenders for the CSC crown for years to come so the 2 annual games will be important ones.

Trivia question - Against which school does Hill-Murray have the greatest number of hockey victories?

Answer - St. Thomas Academy - 41.

It would be more if we added the games before 1971 when Hill was an all boys school. The all time series is 41-5, including 10-1 since they resumed playing each other in 2001. St. Thomas has some catching up to do.

[hast-h-fan]

Stpaul.......great stats

[Ankles Pierre, Jr.]

What is wrong with my analysis?

You forgot to mention that Hill-Murray's Girls' team could have beat STA last night.

Pioneers control Cadets
Hill-Murray takes sole lead in conference
BY RAY RICHARDSON
Pioneer Press

Hill-Murray right winger Nick Larson analyzed the outcome of Thursday night's boys hockey showdown against St. Thomas Academy in simple terms.

"I felt we were the bigger, faster and stronger team," Larson said after Hill-Murray's 4-1 victory at Aldrich Arena. "It was just a matter of time before we took control."

Larson had a lot to do with Hill-Murray's dominance, scoring three goals to help the Pioneers claim sole possession of first place in the Classic Suburban Conference.

Hill-Murray (10-1-1, 7-0-0), ranked No. 2 in this week's Pioneer Press metro top 10, also got a strong performance from goalie Joe Phillippi, who made 33 saves.

[HShockeywatcher]

Wow, so basically all that you posted was giving Nick Larson a lot of credit, which is exactly what I did. I gave my analysis of why I would not give too much credit to Phillippi. He's a great goalie, I've seen him play other games and he'll do well post-high school, but the reason St Thomas didn't score on what should've been about 4 or 5 easy goals wasn't because of him, it was because they screwed up.

So yes, Hill Murray did completely outplay St Thomas. But part of giving an analysis is telling the whole story, not just the parts you're proud of. Hill spending another 8 minutes, although I don't think it would've changed the outcome of the game, in the penalty box would have been good to see.

Hill got away with tripping multiple times. Aside from that, very big team, very fast, and lead by a very good D1 player.

[pioneers]

Has anyone seen enough of HM's JV to know how good Singerhouse, Widing & O'Brien have been playing? Will any of them be moved up to the varsity?

O'Brien hasn't been playing on the JV But he has been practicing with the Varsity. Not sure who they would send down if they bring up Singerhouse

[pioneers]

From what one of the STA JV players told me, HM JV lost 4-2.
Not sure how the 3 players did though.

Is checking from behind a 2, 10 and one game supsension?
If so, one of HM d is out for Staurday's game.

I don't think the 2 and 10 is a game suspension. Only if you get a 5

[hcky09]

I believe one of Hills defensemen is out for the next game. O'Brien has been playing games with the Junior Varsity for the last couple of weeks. If they bring Singerhouse up to Varsity they could send any of the 3rd or 4th liners down as they are not very effective.

[gnopreeb]

hshockeywatcher, would you like a little bit of cheese with that whine? seriously, shut up. no one cares. you're basically saying "you don't need to help Hill-Murray." This isn't the first time i've heard someone try to bring HM down in a similar fashion. I hear parents from opposing teams yelling that at the refs all the time (yes, they really are that loud about it). Short of saying STA blows, you are kind of selling your team short by saying that more penalties could have helped your team. Good teams would overcome poor refs like you claim they did last night.

[hockeydad]

Checking from behind is automatically a misconduct. It is usually a 2 and 10, but if the ref decides it is flagrant, he can make it a 5 minute major and a game misconduct, which means the player is also out for the next game.

[thestickler07]

How is this thread is still going on?

[Slapshot*67]

Obrien practices and plays with the JV

[boblee]

Hill-Murray 4
STA 1

I hit that one right on the head.

[hunter]

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With Singerhouse coming up, & the defense continuing to improve, they look unstopable. However, as " Badger" Bob Johnson used to say, If your power play is weak, you can't win the big ones. They had better start working on an obvious problem.

[HShockeywatcher]

Not exactly sure how I'm selling my team short. The better team won. I'm admitting that. St Thomas is a good team and fun to watch and follow, but they aren't the best team in State. They got beat fair and square. I'm admitting that, gave a game analysis and my opinion.

And yes, the game would've been a lot different if Hill either had not committed the penalties they did that weren't called or if they were called. But if you think leaving things out of an analysis is smart, sweet. I don't.

[Ankles Pierre, Jr.]

Hill got away with tripping multiple times..

So the guy least able to get his stats straight, do credible pre or post-game analysis, make a legible post, or even put a complete thought together, now thinks he knows officiating, too. Worst part is… THE MSHSL WOULD PROBABLY GIVE HIM A JOB.