St.Cloud Youth Hockey

2pipesnin · Post by **2pipesnin** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:22 am

Transition, you obviously are SCYH board member trying to defend the SCYH board. Do not expect any additional people to try to step up and help SCYHA unless they want to be a puppet. The good people and coaches that have tried to make a difference in the past 6 years have quit or have been band from SCYHA because they did not follow one simple rule! Her Way or The Highway! SCYHA is a dictatorship and will continue a downward tailspin until she and her puppets are gone. The outrages use of ice time (lone ice practices) and Acceleration have pushed the players expenses to a level that people just can’t afford anymore. Your fighting a loosing battle.

transition06 · Post by **transition06** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:34 pm

Okay, you got me on the Crusaders game against Marshall. They played well and deserved to win the game. Good for them. They couldn't get by one Duluth team, but they got by the other. I stand corrected for now.

Nothing also like reading Topshelf16's predictions based on his hockey knowledge. Topshelf's dire predictions of what would happen to 2 A teams didn't seem to materialize at the Pee Wee level last year. At least I admit when I make a mistake..........but then I'm not holding my breath. Ah but it was probably all coaching, nothing to do with the players. Also, I have enough hockey sense to know a forward should score and D should play D instead of worrying about points.

And to 2pipesnin, are you really naive enough to believe people within an organization all follow each other and don't fight and disagree? Get a clue. Serve on SOMETHING , sometime, somewhere.

George Blanda · Post by **George Blanda** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:55 pm

My mom and her friends disagreed with Colleen Donovan when she was on the SCYHA board. She lasted about one more day on the board. Let's just say her and OBD aren't that great of friends. *edit* She was not banned from the board, she just quit. I wouldn't say that people below OBD are puppets, but I would say that they have little say on anything.

The program is in shambles. She should be able to stay as the leader of the SCTYHA, but they need to split that program like the girls high schools are split. Have one association for Apollo/Cathedral kids and one program for Tech kids. Chad Hommerding is running the program through Donovan and it is a joke.

2pipesnin · Post by **2pipesnin** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:36 pm

Transition........I did, and was also band. So before you lashout........(like SCYHA does) make sure you understand the facts. You must be from the board......puppet.

transition06 · Post by **transition06** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:55 pm

Oh, really. You were BANNED from the board. I have been on and off the board for 12 years......You weren't banned. You just didn't get re-elected........What a tool.

2pipesnin · Post by **2pipesnin** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:26 pm

Just so you don't go down the wrong path.......I have never ran for a position on the executive board. I know better!!

transition06 · Post by **transition06** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:42 pm

Let's clear one thing up. Everyone makes mistakes in any kind of leadership position -- generals of armies, presidents, CEOs, volunteer leaders, business owners, parents, coaches etc. Yes, mistakes have been made. Not going back to one A team at Bantams last year after the defection of so many kids was one of them.

Isn't hindsight great? But look closely at some of the board members of SCYHA who have been highly critical of the association last year the year before and the year before, who are serving. Let's at least attempt to be honest.

2pipesnin · Post by **2pipesnin** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:12 pm

"Let's at least attempt to be honest" ......About what?????

At this point any type of debate with you would be futile. You have obviously been assimilated and all you see now is black and orange in your perfect world.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say at one point you had visions of blue and gold but then you need to change colors in order to run tighter with the SCYH pack. Good luck with that!

transition06 · Post by **transition06** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:24 pm

Au Contraire O Crusader.

All is not perfect in black and orange any more than it is in blue and gold, but keep deluding yourself. You're right. Future debate would be futile.

otter4 · Post by **otter4** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:54 pm

I find all the cat-fighting on this thread very unfortunate. I feel sorry for St. Cloud hockey kids if this is the most productive way you people can find to address your issues. You might want exert some of this energy looking for solutions, instead of pointing fingers.......and NO, I'm not from St. Cloud. I just love hockey and would like to see all the youth programs in the STATE OF HOCKEY provide a successful experience for kids. If you think for a minute all this negativity isn't affecting your kids and your program, think again!

topshelf16 · Post by **topshelf16** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:23 am

well said otter4 I think there are alot of talented people involved with and who care about SCYHA it would be nice to get everybody on the same page working for a common goal. there has to be a way to get past all the bad feelings and start putting this energy to a positive use myself included. Transiton06, with you being on the board do you have any ideas on where would be a starting point or how people not currently involved could start to help and how we as an associaton can quit our backbitting and get on the same page?

transition06 · Post by **transition06** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:44 pm

I agree, and yes, I do have a few ideas. First would be that I would like to see more committed people on the board. If a person is reluctant to be on the board, let's get a separate group together to identify some of the top issues facing the association -- from player development to increasing costs of playing the game to the issue of numbers of teams. Anyone who has an interest in the areas that are identified could then be in put in charge of that area i.e. research, defining options, making recommendations. There is a lot to bite off here....just the increase in hourly ice time involves the arena people, the city council and the mayor. We do have many issues, as do most other associations, but I believe there is a lot of good that can be done. Yes, there is a lot of rivalry among the high schools, even at the younger levels, but I'd like to see increasing numbers of top players coming out of our area, regardless of the school or side of town.

topshelf16 · Post by **topshelf16** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:12 pm

transiton06, great post, wonderful ideas. one question, how do people who want to help or have positive feedback go about to act on there ideas to make a positive change. I don't know how to say this and not stir the pot, witch is NOT my intention, that right or wrong, in my opinion there is a feeling around town that when it comes to things regarding SCYHA the board is not very open minded to outside ideas. how do you on the board encorage more people and sponsors to get involved especally thoes who have a bitter taste in there mouths from past experences with SCHYA?

George Blanda · Post by **George Blanda** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:49 pm

That'd be SCtYHA

transition06 · Post by **transition06** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:51 am

TopShelf16:

I am going to propose several of those ideas in the next few days among board members -- already started. Hoping to see some people stepping forward. It will be open to everyone. We've all been guilty of fingerpointing and the earlier poster said it well.

D8Scout · Post by **D8Scout** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:38 pm

if donovan would resign

the flood gates would open with volunteers, both past and present parents

until then , it will continue the downward spiral , with kids playing indoor lacrosse, indoor soccer, basketball and all the other winter activities

so , colleen , if you do what you say, and put the kids first, then hand in your resignation

do the right thing

topshelf16 · Post by **topshelf16** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:45 am

Let's open the floodgates now. I would love to here some ideas that SCHYA could put into play to better itself. here are two quick thoughts 1. less ice time these kids do not need to be on the ice 28 days out of a month to become great hockey players 2. have a set system in place that all the teams use so as a player progresses they do not have to learn and re-learn each year.

George Blanda · Post by **George Blanda** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:57 am

Like I stated previously...Split associations so they are Tech and Apollo/Cathedral...then people would quit pissing and moaning about Hommerding (like me)

hockeynut19 · Post by **hockeynut19** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:54 pm

On a good note for all you jousting out there...Just participated in the Bantam Geyer Classic and it was handled well and I especially like the online scoresheets and updates on the website with the brackets. You are way ahead of every other tournament with the online stuff!! Great Job!!

2pipesnin · Post by **2pipesnin** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 9:08 am

The Tournament is well run. And there are many of the same people year after year (that have no kids in SCYHA) that do a great job in making sure this tournament is well run. It is a great revenue generator for the community establishments.

The 3 area high schools (Apollo, CHS, Tech) also have many hockey players volunteering their time to work the minor officiating areas (penalty box, score sheets, announcing, etc) for the three day tournament.
Rink Writer program that was used was developed by a local gentleman and is used by the MAC Arena for all hockey game reports at all levels. The Mac has been using RinkWriter for a few years now.

transition06 · Post by **transition06** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:08 am

TopShelf16:

I like both your ideas a lot -- they make a great deal of sense. I also like George Blanda's idea of looking at a split if most people want it.

Hats off to everyone who organized and ran the Geyer Signal Center Ice Classic. The people who put that tourney together spent a lot of time and effort to ensure it is well-run and did a great job with everything from the T shirts to the website etc. I personally would love to see a ref and two linesmen work each Bantam A game, but I also understand refs are hard to come by.

Also, it's great to see the kids from all the high schools working the tourney.

justletemplay · Post by **justletemplay** » Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:25 pm

D8scout,
Do you really think Colleen has done that bad a job that she should resign? My dealings with her are always positive, whether we agree or not. I can talk to her about anything in the scyha. She is open minded and always has the best interest in mind for the players. If you've had problems talking to her, then you should address her on that and find common ground. This board is not the place to do that.

Pucknutz69 · Post by **Pucknutz69** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:31 pm

transition06 wrote:TopShelf16:

I like both your ideas a lot -- they make a great deal of sense. I also like George Blanda's idea of looking at a split if most people want it.

Hats off to everyone who organized and ran the Geyer Signal Center Ice Classic. The people who put that tourney together spent a lot of time and effort to ensure it is well-run and did a great job with everything from the T shirts to the website etc. I personally would love to see a ref and two linesmen work each Bantam A game, but I also understand refs are hard to come by.

Also, it's great to see the kids from all the high schools working the tourney.

My son's team just played in this tournament and I thought it was well run and very competitive. We had a good time, winning also helps with that. I agree with "transition06" this level needs 2 linesmen and a ref. 15 minute stop time game those refs were gassed. The ones we had Sunday night were way behind the play and let the crowd response dictate a few calls. Over all it was a good tournament.

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