St Cloud Cathedral @ Holy Family

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Who wins?

Poll ended at Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:10 pm

Fire
3
10%
Crusaders
27
90%
 
Total votes: 30

George Blanda
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Post by George Blanda »

fivehole628 wrote: Your right plus Delano only lost by one. They were leading the whole game until the third period.
Well, Brilliant Bob, Delano had the lead for 11 minutes and 29 seconds. SCC led for 14 minutes and 16 seconds. Therefore, SCC led for more of the game than Delano did. Delano had the lead in the second period, not the whole game except the third. It wasn't exactly a big time comeback win.
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Post by BlueGoose5 »

For what it's worth, my feeling is that this will be a breakout game for SCC. They've had their mid-season lull against Orono and Delano, and I look for them to get back at it this week. I anticipate that they'll play with more discipline tonight. They were looking fatigued the past several games, but were able to take this past weekend off and the extra rest should help them. I look for a higher quality game tonight. If HF comes to play, it could be close, but realistically SCC should take this one by several goals.
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Post by minyhocky »

Holy Family lost to Mound Westonka 7-1. Holy Family is probably the most over rated team in class A, SCC will easily beat them by 5+ goals.
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Post by George Blanda »

Mound has a damn good team when they play well. Holy Family may be over-rated...but they definately are not bad. If SCC beats them by more than 3 or 4, I'll be very surprised.
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Post by HOFamer »

I watched HF play a game and didn't think much of them...I would say Cathedral will beat them in run time...
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Post by George Blanda »

HOFamer, at the time you posted that, I received a text message with the score.

5-3 after 2. I have no idea who is winning, I assume SCC by the demeanor of the message. But SCC will have to do a lot to put it in run time.
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Post by mikemodano09 »

Final Score

SCC 6
HF 3
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Post by Hischoolhokfan »

Game was tied after 1, 1to1. In the second SCC scored two early goals to go up two. But HF came back solid and scored two more to tie it up. Minutes later SCC scores to make it 4-3 and then again to make it 5-3. I really felt bad for smothers because he was not getting any help from his D. Four of the six goals I really dont even think he saw because he was so badly screened. Alex Hess made an UNBELIEVABLE glove save to keep the score at a two goal spread. Again in the third SCC scored to go up three. Game was really even, SCC dominated first, HF dominated 2nd and 3rd forcefully. Great game to watch but just to many defensive slip ups for HF to come out on top.

Shots 36 28 in favor of HF.
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Post by blueline88 »

what happened ??? last year HF was short 3 senior players and the score was 2-3 & SCC, so this year its 3 - 6 ???
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Post by Blue&Gold »

You can't judge games in the present by games in the past. Players change, rosters change, etc. And perhaps HF was a better team with those three missing last year.
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Post by BlueGoose5 »

As expected, SCC picked up its performance last night scoring 6 goals from a mixture of players. Not sure about how many penalties they took though, but it looks like HF scored several PP goals. This has to be a concern for SCC as they've given up a number of power play goals in the past 3 games, including a late goal to tie the game against Orono. It's now that point in the season where SCC's seniors have to step up and carry the load as they grind it out to the playoffs.

I'm not sure that HF dominated the game in any way as was posted previously. The word is that HF had a terrible time breaking out of their own end the entire game, which probably accounted for much of their defensive breakdowns. When SCC is moving and hitting on the forecheck, they usually wear down a defense and that's when the turnovers begin to occur.
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Post by mikemodano09 »

Did scc play this game without Nate Schmidt? If they did, does anyone know how much longer he will be out?
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Post by 2pipesnin »

BlueGoose5 were you at the game? You seem to be proclaiming second hand information and making a lot of assumptions if you were not actually there. Interesting way of expressing your view.
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Post by BlueGoose5 »

Well then, Pipes, you tell us how HF did in its own end, especially with the breakout.
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Post by 2pipesnin »

I wasn't there either, that's why I find your comments interesting. Perhaps we should leave the posts about the to someone who was actually at the game.
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Post by tomASS »

I only saw the last 8 minutes - HF had a lot of attempts but many were no where near the net.

The SCC Goalie looked on top of his game but the color of his pads must blind the shooters before they shoot causing them to miss the net.

If it works go with it
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Post by BlueGoose5 »

2pipesnin wrote:I wasn't there either, that's why I find your comments interesting. Perhaps we should leave the posts about the to someone who was actually at the game.
However, Pipes, my comments are likely very accurate.
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Post by George Blanda »

I have heard from multiple people that the only time HF really appeared to have control was when they were on the PP (which was for much of the game).

Still, all reports account that SCC dominated the even-strength play.
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Post by HShockey99 »

Actually, St. Cloud did not dominate the game as many have mentioned. Both teams struggled in their own end. When HF was on offense, St.Cloud struggled, when St. Cloud was in the offensive in HF struggled.

HF outshot SCC 34-24.

SCC capitalized on HF mistakes, HF did not capitlize on theirs. That is not an excuse in any form. A good team takes advantage of mistakes, clearly HF is not there yet.

Hopefully Nate Schmidt makes a huge difference in SCC because they were nothing special to watch.

Again, I am NOT claiming HF is a great team, but clearly when you outshoot a team like that SCC did not dominate the game. And for the record, SCC had about 6 consecutive minutes of Powerplays in the third, 2 minutes of 5 on 3 and could not capitalize but got many of their shots during that time period.

Congrats to SCC on the win, but I don't feel that they in any shape or fashion controlled the play in the game. If they did it was in the first period, after that, HF kept the pressure on.
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Post by BlueGoose5 »

HS, I'm trying hard to follow you. SCC wins by 3 goals. SCC's goalie Hess clearly dominates HF's goalie. SCC's defense clearly dominates mistaken-laden HF's defense. SCC's offense clearly dominates HF's offense as exhibited by SCC's 6 goals. You say that SCC dominated only the 1st period yet it outscored HF 5-2 during the 2nd and 3rd periods. How could this not have been an impressive performance by SCC over HF? I think you should check those rose tainted glasses of yours.
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Post by Hischoolhokfan »

Yeah SCC won by three but if you were at the game it would have showed you that the score was not an indicator of how even the play was. And yeah Hess was dominant in this game but you really cant blame HF's goalie for atleast 4 of the 6 goals. All six goals were in the crease or 5 feet out of the crease. SCC did a great job of putting people in front of HF's net, I dont think Smothers could even see the shots that went in. HF's Offense did a great job and they pressured Hess all night. I was talking to a SCC parent and he told me that HF was one of there hardest competition's this year. He also told me that if they keep playing like this that they are going to surprise alot of teams. Coming from a parent from the SCC team that has probably seen all of there games I would say that that is a pretty big compliment for HF.

One more thing, HF put up 36 shots on goal. Most shots put on net against SCC all of this year for any team.
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Post by boblee »

Zamboni Guy wrote:On this one, I'm thinking...

St. Cloud Cathedral - 6
Holy Family - 3
Now, that was a good call.
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Post by HShockey99 »

BlueGoose,

I am not sure how I can make myself any more clear. SCC won the game as we all know, the only difference being that they buried their chances and HF did not. I clearly stated that good teams take advantage of mistakes and SCC did that. However, you are completely wrong to say that SCC dominated this game in any fashion. Scores are not always indicative of how a game was played.

Over the years I have seen many 3-2 games where it was clearly dominated by one of the teams, sometimes the losing team. I seem to remember SCC beat Delano 4-3 and claimed that the score wasn't how the game went because Delano only had 10 shots ALL NIGHT and SCC had 35.

Well, if you were at the game last night you would see that your team got out shot and really out worked for the last two periods. Did SCC bury the puck when they had the chance, they sure did, and I commend them for that. They finished when they had the opportunity, that is what good teams do. HF had just as many if not more scoring chances, but did not convert. HF, LIKE I STATED EARLIER has a ways to go. If they want to be considered a contender they need to bury their chances and eliminate their opponents chances. Hess played great, he had one glove save on one of the HF players in the third that was remarkable.

If you truely think that SCC dominated this game as far as the play and flow of the game I lose and and all respect for your thoughts and opinions on this board. If anyone watched this game they would see that with a couple bounce either way this could have been a different outcome. If smothers comes up big twice like Hess did in changes the game.

AM I MAKING EXCUSES? NO. SCC deserved to win because they made more plays, end of story. Was HF in this game? They most certainly were and had SCC on the ropes on several occasions.
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Post by Hischoolhokfan »

Amen to that.
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Post by go2guy13 »

What I expected when going to this game was a hands down blow out by SCC especially after the beating HF took from Mound the night before. But what I got was a pretty fun hockey game to watch.

For all you people on this board that think HF is horrible and they are nothing special are just basically reading and agreeing with people. Dont judge a book by its cover or should i say dont judge a hockey team before you see them play. I myself thought they were going to be horrible in this game but they really proved me wrong.

I think after there reality check when they got crushed by Mound was a good thing for this team. When they show up to play they can play with anyone in the state( no question) but when they dont they are not anything to be proud of. If they play like they did last night with less screw ups in there own end, they will be a contender in this section for sure.

If you want to disagree with me go ahead and disagree with me, but before you people on this board start talking smack. Go watch them play.
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