Have You Changed your mind about the new rules?

[HockeyGuru#6]

Have You Changed your mind about the new rules?

[Mhock8]

Have You Changed your mind about the new rules?

Do you mean do it think they help or do i think that they hurt the game?

[Mhdhockey07]

I think the new rules suck

[jancze5]

These are NOT NEW RULES...they are ENFORCEMENT of the rules that already exist....with emphasis on the tripping, slashing, hooking that's been allowed to exist for years.

Here's your choices...

a. Work on your power play
b. Learn to skate, because now speed really kills
c. a and b
d. lose

[HockeyGuru#6]

there are some new rules like now if the puck goes past the defender the defender cant hit the person that dumped, lost or passed the puck

[QuackerTracker]

there are some new rules like now if the puck goes past the defender the defender cant hit the person that dumped, lost or passed the puck

This is not a new rule once the player dumps the puck he is no longer in possession of the puck so you can not interfere with his effort to retreive it. You actually have to skate with him instead of just stopping him and having you D partner pick up the puck.

[tomASS]

there are some new rules like now if the puck goes past the defender the defender cant hit the person that dumped, lost or passed the puck

This is not a new rule once the player dumps the puck he is no longer in possession of the puck so you can not interfere with his effort to retreive it. You actually have to skate with him instead of just stopping him and having you D partner pick up the puck.

And this is one of the most inconsistant calls made or not made all year. The inconsistencies in interpreting the call between referees is the problem especially since it is not a new rule.

[QuackerTracker]

And this is one of the most inconsistant calls made or not made all year. The inconsistencies in interpreting the call between referees is the problem especially since it is not a new rule.

Agreed!
I think that this was one thing that was not covered very well at the officials seminar. There can still be contact going to the puck but the defending player can not keep his back turned to the puck. This one and face off penalties can be the toughest to catch. That may be part of the problem you are seeing.

[tomASS]

Ahh common ground!

[QuackerTracker]

Yeah it breaks my heart. I could not rip on you for that one. Maybe I am going soft! HA!

[State Champ 97]

Yeah it breaks my heart. I could not rip on you for that one. Maybe I am going soft! HA!

Refs

[QuackerTracker]

Yeah, we really have no clue what we are doing. We hudle before the game and flip a coin to decide what team we want to screw tonight

But I am going to stick with the statement that if you don't like the way it is sign up to be one.

[RLStars]

there are some new rules like now if the puck goes past the defender the defender cant hit the person that dumped, lost or passed the puck

This is not a new rule once the player dumps the puck he is no longer in possession of the puck so you can not interfere with his effort to retreive it. You actually have to skate with him instead of just stopping him and having you D partner pick up the puck.

Close, they are still in possession and its basically a new interpretation of the existing interference rule. Here is the ruling on possession, straight from the 2005-2007 rule book:

(Note) The last player to touch the puck, other than a goalkeeper, shall be considered the player in possession. In interpreting this rule the Referee should make sure which of the players is the one creating the interference. Often it is the action and movement of the attacking player that causes the interference since the defending players are entitled to
“stand their ground” or “shadow” the attacking player. Players of the side in possession shall not be allowed to “run” deliberate interference for the puck carrier.

The point of emphasis with the "New Standards":

INTERFERENCE

A player cannot use his/her body (“pick” or “block”) to impede the progress of an opponent with no effort to play the puck, maintain normal foot speed or established skating lane.

Examples include:
Intentionally playing the body of an opponent who does not have possession or possession and control of the puck. Using the body to establish a ”pick” or “block” that prevents an opponent from being able to chase a puck carrier, reducing foot speed or changing an established skating lane for the purpose of impeding an opponent from being able to chase a puck carrier.

Allowed Actions:
A player is entitled to the ice he/she occupies as long as they are able to maintain their own foot speed and body position between opponent and puck. Players are allowed to compete for body position using their strength and balance in front of the goal or along the boards

[tomASS]

ok then - lets get it consistantly applied then referees, from start to finish, game in and game out.

If it was a focus of emphasis then it should have been a priority in training

[QuackerTracker]

I am not sure what your expectations are? there is inconsistancy at the NHL level. There is still going to be differing opinions. I know you want the refs to be machines but it will never happen.

[State Champ 97]

Yeah, we really have no clue what we are doing. We hudle before the game and flip a coin to decide what team we want to screw tonight

But I am going to stick with the statement that if you don't like the way it is sign up to be one.

I was one. I didn't care for it.

[tomASS]

I am not sure what your expectations are? there is inconsistancy at the NHL level. There is still going to be differing opinions. I know you want the refs to be machines but it will never happen.

The NHL inconsistency is within an understandable range. The range I have seen this year in Bantam hockey ranges from ignoring the new rules completely to calling interference for a player farting (referees blaming the dog).

Narrow the range and I wouldn't have to spend so much time at the bars before the game.