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doubleOHseven · Post by **doubleOHseven** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:40 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote:not at all?

Well... that's something. I scrappy team like Red Wing loses by one goal to (what is, in my opinion) the best A team in the state, and it doesn't make you wonder how they might match up against teams that aren't number one?

doubleOHseven · Post by **doubleOHseven** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:42 pm

miracle2200 wrote:Not much. It was a good game, yes. Its not gonna lose them any spots.. Hermantown is obviously a good team. Other hand, its probably not going to gain them spots, they still lost.

I'm not talking about rankings or seedings... I mean how might it affect the manner in which they play those teams that aren't as good as Hermantown? In other words.. does this bring some unseen potential in Red Wing come section play?

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 9:59 pm

They lost to St Thomas already and tied Lourdes. Beating Hermantown may give them more confidence, and, as I said before, them playing St Thomas may be the only way someone aside from St Thomas gets to state.

miracle2200 · Post by **miracle2200** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:05 pm

It'll definitely be a confidence booster. But they're gonna have to look past that if they plan on beating STA.. or Lourdes for that matter.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:21 pm

The other way around, they need to get past Lourdes before they can even think about St Thomas.

No one posted before about why people think Lourdes can beat St Thomas. What I'm curious about is if coaches ever think about the most strategic way to take out the big guy in the section in their voting. In doing so I'd put St Thomas at #1, Lourdes at #2, Richfield at #3, a bottom guy at #4 and Red Wing at #5. I'm not saying it's going to happen at all, but this way there would be no problems in Red Wing because their fans couldn't stand up (and the away fans). Then St Thomas would probably play Red Wing and (if they win) Lourdes. Making it the most difficult for them to get to State. Just throwing it out there for conversation even though it'll never happen.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:32 pm

Just throwing it out there, but Red Wing lost by 1 to Hermantown and St Thomas beat Hill Murray by 1 on the same night. So...

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:57 pm

Just curious. The first time St Thomas played North St Paul, it was away and they played the back up. At this time of the season, is that something a team would do or not? I'm just curious as I do not know what goes into the coaching and preparing of teams for sections.

Thanks

sniper1675 · Post by **sniper1675** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:30 pm

maybe crandall is just that bad, coaches were worried about him blowin it for them?

just kidding HShockeywatcher.

goalieguy1 · Post by **goalieguy1** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:21 am

From an unofficial source, but believed to be accurate (the only question is 8-9, and they play each other regardless):

1. St. Thomas
2. Lourdes
3. Red Wing
4. Richfield
5. Northfield
6. South St. Paul
7. Simley
8. Minnehaha Academy
9. LaCrescent
10. St. Paul Academy

goalieguy1 · Post by **goalieguy1** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:23 am

HShockeywatcher wrote:Before the game on Thursday, why has Red Wing locked up it's #3 spot? If you compare the schedules/results of Red Wing and Richfield, they are about the same, with Richfield looking a little better. If you throw in the addition of Guggs and how they've been playing, I'd say it's:
1. St Thomas
2. Lourdes
3. Richfield.
4. Red Wing.

I would imagine that the best part about being wrong so often is that you're never surprised.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:49 am

Where was I wrong? The coaches may be using the season as a whole, or they may have seen that St Thomas beat Hill and Red Wing only lost by 1 to Hermantown. I don't think my opinion can be wrong, especially when the seeding is the compilation of ten different people's opinions.

goalieguy1 · Post by **goalieguy1** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:58 am

HShockeywatcher wrote:Where was I wrong?...I don't think my opinion can be wrong.

From the same guy who gave us "I know quite a bit about everything in sports," and "In sections, do you keep playing OT until someone scores?"

And when I explained why Red Wing would be seeded ahead of Richfield he said I was "very naive to be saying the things you are. "

This guy's quite a piece of work, eh?

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:04 pm

You're saying you can have a wrong opinion?

When did I say I know quite a bit about everything in sports? I explained why I asked if they keep playing OTs instead of going to a shootout.

Not sure about other people, but I would take the team who takes Hill Murray to OT over the team who loses to Hermantown by a goal any day if that's all the information we got.

But hey, at least I know to expect you not to answer questions asked.

goalieguy1 · Post by **goalieguy1** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:28 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote:When did I say I know quite a bit about everything in sports? Not sure about other people, but I would take the team who takes Hill Murray to OT over the team who loses to Hermantown by a goal any day if that's all the information we got.

But hey, at least I know to expect you not to answer questions asked.

Here are your answers, brainiac. On Dec. 10, in a thread about the Lourdes-Breck game, you wrote:

"I know quite a bit about everything in sports.." You were trying to explain why you didn't know there was such a thing as a penalty shot.

"...but I would take the team who takes Hill Murray to OT over the team who loses to Hermantown by a goal any day if that's all the information we got."

But that's NOT "all the information we got." We have lots of other information, including the scores of dozens of other games, including several among mutual opponents. All of these things go into seeding decisions, which is why we've been explaining to you for three weeks that Richfield would not be seeded higher than #4. And yet, because you thought you knew something, you predicted Richfield would be seeded #3, and called me "naive" for saying that you were wrong. Now that you've been proven wrong, you have the nerve to ask "Where was I wrong?"

It's so typical of your posts. You don't know what you're talking about, you're wrong and you can't even admit you were wrong. Go spend a year or two learning something about hockey and quit cluttering up the board.

southernmnscout · Post by **southernmnscout** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:41 pm

Go spend a year or two learning something about hockey and quit cluttering up the board.

AMEN to that goalieguy!!!!!!!!!

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:48 pm

If you really want to waste your time doing this, send me a message here and there, I'll gladly reply and we won't have to waste other peoples' time.

As for the first quote, you taking to words I said to give them a different meaning than the one I had when I said them, which is why it is being misquoted.

On Feb 6th, I wrote:
So basically people keep making the same statements and keep ignoring what is being asked. Sure there was one bad game, maybe he would've made up 10 goals, maybe he wouldn't have.

I started another thread where everyone that posted said you seed the team that's going into sections, not the team that played earlier in the season, and yet everyone in here is putting that original team in their place, not the one going into sections, and singling out individual games, when 25 were played.

Lourdes lost to St Thomas by 4. Richfield lost by three. If they win Thursday, that's better. Richfield shut out Northfield by 3 goals away, while both Lourdes and Red Wing won by 1 at home. Richfield beat S St Paul but 4, Red Wing beat them by 1. Red Wing lost to Mahtomedi while Richfield lost by the same score then beat them by 3.

In the end, this is all just silly. You can argue either side very well, although I think holding one bad game against Richfield is silly. "

Just as well as you can argue they should be a low seed, BEFORE they got shut out by St Thomas a 2nd time, someone else could easily argue for them to be a higher seed.

It's so typical of your posts. You just ignore the good points other people make and nit pick little things to make them look bad without even contributing to what is being discussed. Go send someone a message and quit cluttering up the board.

power92 · Post by **power92** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:57 pm

Blah,Blah, Blah.
Sorry I ever doubted you, goalieguy1.

goalieguy1 · Post by **goalieguy1** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:24 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote:As for the first quote, you taking to words I said to give them a different meaning than the one I had when I said them, which is why it is being misquoted.

Nice sentence! What school let you out of 8th grade? (If any ever did.)

Power92: Apology accepted.

I know I should just ignore the guy, but he's just so frickin' stupid. I had a law school classmate like this, who kept piping up during Socratic discussions, even when it was obvious he didn't have a clue what he was talking about. Eventually we were able to shame him into shutting up unless he had a positive contribution to the discussion. That doesn't seem to work with this guy, however, since being proven wrong, or asking questions a 6-year-old can answer, doesn't seem to shame him.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:24 pm

You not only got in, but went to law school? Wow. Well, I'm sorry I'm not infallible like you and sometimes I mistype a word like when 'you taking to' was suppose to be 'you are taking the'; if you went to law school, I'm sure you could've figured something out.

And way to go on and prove my point about how you just ignore most of what is said, especially the parts that are contrary to what you said and grasp the ones that make others look bad. When in the real world, calling people out on things like you are makes you look bad, not the person who screwed up.

Like I said, send a message, be respectful about things, don't waste other peoples' time talking about things that have nothing to do with this board.

Anyone know about my question about playing a back up goalie?

Fighting Saints · Post by **Fighting Saints** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:34 pm

Is Minn Academy #8 and LaCrescent #9 ??

power92 · Post by **power92** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:36 pm

goalieguy1 wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote:As for the first quote, you taking to words I said to give them a different meaning than the one I had when I said them, which is why it is being misquoted.
Nice sentence! What school let you out of 8th grade? (If any ever did.)

Power92: Apology accepted.

I know I should just ignore the guy, but he's just so frickin' stupid. I had a law school classmate like this, who kept piping up during Socratic discussions, even when it was obvious he didn't have a clue what he was talking about. Eventually we were able to shame him into shutting up unless he had a positive contribution to the discussion. That doesn't seem to work with this guy, however, since being proven wrong, or asking questions a 6-year-old can answer, doesn't seem to shame him.

Don't waste your time emailing either, goalieguy, I tried that approach and it is still the same whining you get on the "bored". One other thing to remember goalieguy, hshockeycrotcher ALWAYS has the word.
Good luck.

goalieguy1 · Post by **goalieguy1** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:38 pm

Fighting Saints wrote:Is Minn Academy #8 and LaCrescent #9 ??

That's how it was given to me this morning...SPA #10.

doubleOHseven · Post by **doubleOHseven** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:21 pm

K... is this right? I've never done this myself...

Section 3A Brackets

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:27 pm

It is correct. Although, if you want to get technical, I think you'd switch the quarterfinals on the bottom and put Lourdes on the top. Then the team on top would always be the home team. Aside from that, it looks good.

goalieguy1 · Post by **goalieguy1** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:38 am

Thanks for the bracket, 007....If you want to add the sites and times, they are as follows:

Quarterfinals, Feb. 22 - At St. Thomas, 7 p.m., at Richfield, 7:30 p.m., at Red Wing, 7 p.m. and at Graham Arena (Rochester) 7:30 p.m.

Semifinals, Feb. 24 - At Inver Grove Heights, top bracket at 6 p.m., bottom bracket at 8 p.m.

Finals, March 1 - At the Coliseum, 6 p.m. (it's a doubleheader with the 2AA final, which will follow at 8 p.m.)

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