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The list is a joke without Westberg on it.[/quote]


I will agree with this statement! It is unfortunate that Liz Was not in the top 5.After it is all said and done Nixon will probobly win the award! And some of you will probobly argue about that. They are all viable candidates and deserving of the award unfortunatly only one person can win. Maybe Liz will take her team to the state championship!! And prove to everybody that she belongs in the top 5! :!: :!: :)
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Not to take anything away from any of the goalies But I have seen Nixon, Westburg and Elliot play. and I was most impressed with Nixon.

Did anybody see that there is an article about her in SI?

Too bad there is not a way for SOG to be marked as Quality shots vs just a shot or Maybe Shots from outside the center line shouldnt count as a shot It would surly make the count change on some goailes.
I have also seen where shot counts are not correct, I have seen shots get counted even tho they are wide or over the goalies head when they catch it.

JMHO- What all my bable adds up to is just becuse your W record is better does not make them a better goalie.
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Post by mr. mudd »

Sounds like the Nixon p.r. department has been busy. Good luck to all the candidates. Well documented and otherwise.
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ghshockeyfan wrote:Here's another great story from the most recent edition of Sports Illustrated:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/h ... index.html

Crease Is the Word
Ashley Nixon keeps up the tradition at 'Goalie High'
Posted: Tuesday February 6, 2007 1:03PM; Updated: Tuesday February 6, 2007 1:03PM

By Yi-Wyn Yen

BLAINE HIGH
Blaine, Minn.

During humid Minnesota summers Steve Guider oversees "goalie boot camps" at which players jump tires or trudge across four-foot-deep padded mats in full gear. Guider wants to be "the best goaltender coach around," he says, and these drills are among his favorites for building endurance and balance. Guider, 38, came to Blaine (Minn.) High in 1992, first to work with boys' goalies, and added the duties of girls' goalies coach in 1994 and girls' head coach in 2003. During that time Guider, a former Blaine goalie himself, has seen four boys and four girls become Division I goalies. His latest and perhaps his greatest pupil is senior Ashley Nixon, headed to nearby St. Cloud this fall.

Nixon, 18, excelled last June at USA Hockey's Junior National Olympic development camp in Lake Placid. Over five days of scrimmages, she didn't give up a goal until her 102nd minute and had a goals-against average (0.80) twice as good as anyone else's. At Blaine she has led the Bengals to a 15-7-3 record this season, including eight shutouts. She'll excel in college, Guider says, because "she plays her best against elite players."

Nixon, the daughter of Scott, a construction foreman, and Mary, a secretary, first tended goal in youth leagues at age nine. She now emulates the butterflying style of the New Jersey Devils' Martin Brodeur.

Of her exacting coach Nixon says, "We make fun of him a bit -- when he writes plays on the board, every letter has to be the exact same size." Scott Bjugstad, a former Blaine coach who played center for the NHL's North Stars, says Guider "gets results because he's relentless." But though she may sigh at the prospect of yet another drill, for Nixon it's a system that works.

ghshockeyfan wrote:http://www.startribune.com/526/story/953230.html

The puck stops here, year after year after year
It's more than luck that has allowed Blaine to produce nine Division I goaltenders in the past 14 years. Some great athletes had their skills refined by the philosophy developed and the drills devised by coach Steve Guider.

By Pam Schmid, Star Tribune

Last update: January 22, 2007 – 8:43 PM

Pipeline between the pipes

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Nixon

In his 14 years spent coaching goalies at Blaine, Steve Guider has figured out a thing or two:
Fundamentals rule. The mental game has as much to do with it as the physical. And outstanding goaltenders tend to be made, not born.

Guider can back up the last tenet nine times over -- the same number of male and female NCAA Division I goaltenders Blaine has turned out under his guidance. It's a stunning total for a single school.

Jim Moellman, who graduated from Blaine in 1992, was Guider's first success story. Ashley Nixon is his latest. A three-year starter with outstanding technique and a fiery disposition, Nixon is headed to St. Cloud State next season.

"It's hard to make a good goal-scorer; you can't create a Wayne Gretzky," said Guider, a 1987 Blaine graduate. "But if you have a kid who can skate and is athletic, you can make them a goalie. That's what we've had."

For the past decade, the Bengals girls' program has enjoyed an unbroken string of stellar goaltenders. Katie Beau- duy (1999), a four-year starter who played for Minnesota State Mankato, came first. Jody Horak (2001, Gophers), Kim Hanlon (2005, Gophers) and Nixon have followed. Guider also coached Dauphne Barnes, a 1993 graduate who played on the boys' team and later competed for Princeton.

"We've been pretty lucky," Guider said. "There's been quite a bit of talent that's come through here."

Guider has had something to do with it as well.

He spent nine years working with the goaltenders in Blaine's girls' and boys' programs before becoming the girls' head coach five years ago. While his duties have expanded, he hasn't strayed from his philosophy of developing goalies: Teach the basics, drill the heck out of them and set expectations sky-high.

Before each season, Guider tells his goaltenders the same thing: You must do everything possible to stop every puck, or you won't play for us. Instilling that attitude develops a rock-solid work ethic, he believes. He backs up his talks with a multitude of examples.

"He's taught me never to give up," Nixon said. "He's definitely a perfectionist, and he wants you to be that way, too."

Movement drills are another Guider trademark. Every day, for the first five or six minutes of practice, his goaltenders work on drills, inside the net and out. Guider has developed nearly 20 of them: shuffle drills, T-glide drills, backward push drills, drills that simulate breakaways and other game situations.

"To stop the puck you have to be able to move and be agile and quick," said Hanlon, the 2006 WCHA rookie of the year. "Right before every practice, we were always doing tons of different movement drills. They really helped."

Guider, who played hockey and football at Blaine, has picked the brains of NHL and national team coaches he's crossed paths with at Olympic development camps, symposiums and USA Hockey programs.

Churning out nine D-I goalies is "unheard of," Centennial girls' hockey coach Mike Diggins said. "But Steve does that good of a job with the kids he's gotten."

Guider believes Nixon, a three-year starter who split time with Hanlon as a sophomore, might be his finest goalie yet.

Last year, she turned heads at the Junior National Olympic development camp in Lake Placid, N.Y., where she was the top-rated goalie in her age group with a .970 save percentage.

Despite her team's less-than-stellar defense this season, Nixon has a .939 save percentage. Out of her 12 victories, seven have been shutouts. Her finest game came against Blake, ranked No. 6 in Class 1A, when she stopped 44 of 46 shots in a 3-2 victory. Guider, whose team is 12-6-2, hasn't had to worry about his goalie for the past 10 years, but next season that will change. With Nixon graduating, his choices in net will be a raw sophomore and an even less experienced freshman.

"Until we get these other kids ready, we'll have to improve our defense," Guider said. "We can't give up the quality of shots we've given up and expect to be successful next year."


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is this the ashley nixon fan club?
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lovetopuck wrote:is this the ashley nixon fan club?
No, but that's a great idea!!!
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Post by kp13 »

I'd say Paige Thunder should win. I've seen numerous times where the opposing team would outshoot CEC and they would still come out with a victory. Thunder keeps CEC in the game by making great saves. The playoff game against PHM was a great game for her. PHM outshot CEC 31-15, and Thunder came up big to get the 2-1 win.
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This is as much an Ashley Nixon fan club as it is an Irondale fan club. In case I'm not being direct enough, that's for you "lovetopuck".
I think this forum should be for the positive flow of information and the advancement of girls hockey. It should not be an arena of competition. :evil:
Save that for the ice.
I think it's wonderful when any of these girls get recognition because it shows how awesome the "state" of hockey is.
I say good luck to all who are up for this and any other award.
Life is filled with winners and losers but only you can truly define which you will be.
Envy is a deadly sin, so try being happy for others once in a while. It's amazing how good it can make you feel. :D
Also, don't say things when your anonymus that you wouldn't have the courage to say to someones face.
Just my opinion, and you know who I am.
Go North Metro Stars! :D
Go Snipers and go Big Green!
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Butch Horner wrote:This is as much an Ashley Nixon fan club as it is an Irondale fan club. In case I'm not being direct enough, that's for you "lovetopuck".
I think this forum should be for the positive flow of information and the advancement of girls hockey. It should not be an arena of competition. :evil:
Save that for the ice.
I think it's wonderful when any of these girls get recognition because it shows how awesome the "state" of hockey is.
I say good luck to all who are up for this and any other award.
Life is filled with winners and losers but only you can truly define which you will be.
Envy is a deadly sin, so try being happy for others once in a while. It's amazing how good it can make you feel. :D
Also, don't say things when your anonymus that you wouldn't have the courage to say to someones face.
Just my opinion, and you know who I am.
Go North Metro Stars! :D
Go Snipers and go Big Green!
i just brought up irondale because at the time they was very little talk of them. if you read through this thread i didnt say anything about Irondales goalie who is nominated. although if there was an ashley nixon fan club, id like to join it because she is a very good goalie and is more then likley to also have the title of Ms. Goalie. i just thought itd be nice if we could talk about some of the goalies i didnt know as much about. i was unaware that there was an "arena of competition", and im also unsure if the "Also, don't say things when your anonymus that you wouldn't have the courage to say to someones face" quote was directed towards me also, but i think the idea of generating a fan club is a very bad idea for anyone, especilly ashley. anyway, i dont think i know who you are "Butch" but im pretty confident we should turn a page on our relationship and become allies in the world or girls high school hockey talk regaurding the state of minnesota.
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Willman21 wrote:
There shouldnt even be a ms. hockey goalie. the women cant shoot the puck off the ground or even get it moving 20 mph. I could stop there shots without pads!
well not to talk about irondale anymore, but their D Amy Udvig took a slap shot and fractured a girls foot so she couldnt walk or play for awhile. i'd like you to step in front of her shot, or Bacon of BSM. they probably have the hardest shots of girls names that i can remember.
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Willman21 wrote:
There shouldnt even be a ms. hockey goalie. the women cant shoot the puck off the ground or even get it moving 20 mph. I could stop there shots without pads!
And, there are women goaltenders that have played pro MENS hockey. I'm guessing that many of the posters on this board haven't played at that level.
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[quote="Willman21"][color=red][/color]
There shouldnt even be a ms. hockey goalie. the women cant shoot the puck off the ground or even get it moving 20 mph. I could stop there shots without pads![/quote] the starting goalie for North Branchs varisty boys hockey team is a girl also... i know you only say that stuff to get a raise out of people, and i think thats kinda funny... i dont mind it i laughed when i read some of the things you've said. it makes this message board a lot less serious and more of a relaxed place to talk sports.
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Willman21 wrote:
There shouldnt even be a ms. hockey goalie. the women cant shoot the puck off the ground or even get it moving 20 mph. I could stop there shots without pads!
I bet you could stop shots with your head without getting hurt. Boys shots too. NHL players shots to I'd guess. The puck would shatter into many pieces.
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Post by unbelievable »

Who won this evening? Nixon or the Ponies?
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Post by hockeywild7 »

The Ponies won 3-1. Stillwater came out flying in the first period and Blaine got going in the second. Not many penalties until the third period. Both goalies played well. Plumm for stillwater was superb at times as was nixon for blaine. I think the shots were around 29-20 in favor of Stillwater.
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Post by mr. mudd »

I realize that most people already have Nixon's name engraved on the trophy. Granted, she's put up some good numbers, but let's not forget the other candidates.

Osborn and Bemidji are still playing. She's somewhat unorthodox, but very athletic....and they are still playing.

Thunder from CEC's numbers are right there with Nixon's. She's come up big in some big games for them. Last nights section final was no different. She made some HUGE stops in a big game. Stoned a couple of breakaways that could have really turned that game around. CEC lost to a strong GRG team who brought it all night and got a big goal in OT on a rebound.

Again, good luck to all the candidates, but this definately isn't a one horse race.
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Many would agree that Nixon, Thunder, and Osborne are the top 3. Not to take anything away from others, but those 3 are often discussed as the most likely winners.

That aside, I don't know that I'd stake who should win on which teams are still playing. A consideration? Yes, but maybe not a high consideration?

What I feel makes Nixon #1 is the fact that she's not only dominated MN G HS, but also has been a repeat choice to head east for NDP. Also, when out there, she has been amazing as well. In the end, all the press & publicity is great, but the performace is what matters as well as the person and personality.

All of these kids are great people I'm certain, but only one can win, and at this point that choice - for me - would be Nixon based on her national level performance in addition to everything else.
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If I recall correctly, Thunder's been to NDP the last 2 years also.... I heard she had a strong showing. Also went to Vermont with one of the MN teams and by all reports had a strong showing.
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mr. mudd wrote:If I recall correctly, Thunder's been to NDP the last 2 years also.... I heard she had a strong showing. Also went to Vermont with one of the MN teams and by all reports had a strong showing.
My understanding is that Nixon has made the initial NDP group and that we've added "at large" kids as needed. Some MN goalies made this list, but Nixon has been the only one that has consistently made it without being selected "at large" after-the-fact.

I believe Thunder has shown well out East too. I believe Nixon has done as well or better though.

Re: Vermont - great tourney, lots of fun, pay your $$$ and know the right people and nearly anyone can go. Vermont isn't NDP.

All of these goalies in the top 5 are amazing. IMHO Nixon is #1 - or the best of the best. Take nothing away from the others however!
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ghshockeyfan wrote:
mr. mudd wrote:If I recall correctly, Thunder's been to NDP the last 2 years also.... I heard she had a strong showing. Also went to Vermont with one of the MN teams and by all reports had a strong showing.
My understanding is that Nixon has made the initial NDP group and that we've added "at large" kids as needed. Some MN goalies made this list, but Nixon has been the only one that has consistently made it without being selected "at large" after-the-fact.

I believe Thunder has shown well out East too. I believe Nixon has done as well or better though.

Re: Vermont - great tourney, lots of fun, pay your $$$ and know the right people and nearly anyone can go. Vermont isn't NDP.

All of these goalies in the top 5 are amazing. IMHO Nixon is #1 - or the best of the best. Take nothing away from the others however!
Should making it to NDP, or doing well in the off-season with whatever team, have ANY bearing on the voting? As far as their hockey talent and performance is concerned, which is the No. 1 criteria in selecting the winner, shouldn't it just be measured on how well you did in high school, with a strong emphasis on your senior year? If (theoretically speaking only) one of the other candidates had a slightly better hockey record but otherwise they were equal in the other criteria, should Nixon get the nod based on what she accomplished at NDP?

Please don't take this to mean that I think somebody other than Nixon should win - I'm just asking the question.
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I see a distinct difference between AAA/Summer Elite play and NDP selection and performance. Maybe this isn't the point, but I think it's relative to the discussion.

To say that you don't consider a player's participation in what is the precursor to Nat'l team selection process run by USA H is wrong in my mind. But, again, just my opinion.

Almost anywhere else but NDP you can buy/influence your selection/participation/etc. It's pretty tough to have anything but your ability get you in the NDP, and then to perform as a top player in that setting says a lot I believe. Again though, just my opinion.

Note - none of this mentions any specific names and can be applied theoretically to any player, not just goaltenders, etc.

Furthermore, it's quite evident that this is a "career" award based on the finalists they selected. Sadly, there were some kids that didn't make this list that to many were VERY deserving based on their Sr year performance & other factors. I think this just shows how great those that were selected actually are as many are not even on the list of 5 that are outstanding too.
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Post by keepitreal »

I have to say I have seen all three of Westberg, Bowens-Rubin and Gerten play and they are worthy of this award as well as the finalists. The high quality of all these players makes the judging very difficult for the LPH awards. Each are amazingly talented goaltenders and team leaders. All can be proud of their accomplishments on and off the ice. Hopefully they will continue their careers into college.
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Nixon

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And as expected, Ashley Nixon is Ms Goalie 2007.

http://www.letsplayhockey.com/918cover.pdf

Congrats to Ashley :D
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Congrats

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Congratulations to Ashley Nixon. Well deserved. Good luck with the Huskies next season.
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