Section 1A

bugsy · Post by **bugsy** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:17 pm

A little off topic here, but what does everyone think of having the Section semi's and finals at GAC. Parking is horrible and the rink is somewhat small capacity wise, although it has a great atmosphere. Does anyone think the Civic Center in Mankato would be better. I'm not sure what I think would be better.

Tigerpride2 · Post by **Tigerpride2** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:53 pm

i think it has something to do with being on neutral ice.

Puckhandler · Post by **Puckhandler** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:08 pm

I don't think it has much to do with a neutral sight, if you look around the state there aren't very many section finals/semifinals that are at neutral sights.

I don't have a problem with having it at St. Peter, seems as though the place is almost always just about full, but not so full that everyone can't see the game.

I'd be interested to know how a rink gets a section game. Maybe it's something that Gustavus seeks out. Do these sights get paid? Or, do they have to pay? I'm not sure.

powerplay009 · Post by **powerplay009** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:24 pm

I think GAC is a good place for it. Yes the parking sucks but the atmosphere in there is great. The place is completely full and very loud. Last years section final with the noise and atmosphere was great. The Civic Center in Mankato just wouldnt be the same. Yes its a way nicer rink and parking would be easier but it'd be about 1/3 full and very quiet and it wouldnt seem like a high school game.

Otis Day · Post by **Otis Day** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:28 pm

i'm gonna take Austin over Sleepy eye. Luverne over Farimont. East over waseca. Redwood over Windom, the score was 2-3 last time they played and if window goalie has an off night.

LetsPlayHockey · Post by **LetsPlayHockey** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:37 pm

I completely agree with powerplay. I have been to some games at the civic center. If there isn't more than 2000 people in there it's very quiet. The atmosphere at GAC is amazing, it's about the perfect size for a section final and semi final.

LetsPlayHockey · Post by **LetsPlayHockey** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:55 pm

As much as I hate to be a homer on this one, I just can't see any of the home teams losing. The only one that I believe could be an upset is the East vs. Waseca game. Even though it won't be a real big upset seeing as though Waseca beat East earlier in the year 8-5. If East can stay out of the penalty box they will win the game, if they are in there a lot season is over for East. I really want East to win this game because the winner plays AL and I would love to see East and AL duke it up again! Whoever saw this game knows exactly what I'm talking about.
Windom will easily take care of Redwood. I know the games were fairly close through the regular season but I believe Windom will win this game by a big margin. No offense to Sleeye Eye or Fairmont but I don't think they have a chance.

Predictions:
East over Waseca 6-5 hopefully a good physical game
Austin over Sleeye Eye That won't be close
Windom over Redwood I expect Windom to play well
Luverne over Fairmont Luverne all the way

bigbabyblue · Post by **bigbabyblue** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:03 pm

LetsPlayHockey wrote:As much as I hate to be a homer on this one, I just can't see any of the home teams losing. The only one that I believe could be an upset is the East vs. Waseca game. Even though it won't be a real big upset seeing as though Waseca beat East earlier in the year 8-5. If East can stay out of the penalty box they will win the game, if they are in there a lot season is over for East. I really want East to win this game because the winner plays AL and I would love to see East and AL duke it up again! Whoever saw this game knows exactly what I'm talking about.
Windom will easily take care of Redwood. I know the games were fairly close through the regular season but I believe Windom will win this game by a big margin. No offense to Sleeye Eye or Fairmont but I don't think they have a chance.

Predictions:
East over Waseca 6-5 hopefully a good physical game
Austin over Sleeye Eye That won't be close
Windom over Redwood I expect Windom to play well
Luverne over Fairmont Luverne all the way

i saw the east AL game what you talking about duke it out it was 9-3 what you mean you want another blow out

ilovelife23 · Post by **ilovelife23** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:07 pm

i'm pretty sure letsplayhockey was referring to the intensity of the game. east and al got a little bickery that game and sources say that joey olson made walton flinch so walton like slashed him but they both got penelties? but anyway yeah the intensity that both teams brought was more than likely what he was referring to.

Thegoldenjet · Post by **Thegoldenjet** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:31 am

I think your right but someone's always gotta get their undies in a bunch.

LetsPlayHockey · Post by **LetsPlayHockey** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:43 am

ilovelife23 you and me see eye to eye. That's exactly what I meant the intensity of the game was great. After the first period it was 3-2 AL. Then AL decided to take over. I'm sure AL will certainly win but I love to watch games that have good intensity and I love to watch the kids put it all out there on the ice. That's how every game should be played!!!

RGGspartan10 · Post by **RGGspartan10** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:59 am

Quick question for all you 1A fans...
Why isn't Fairbault in section 1A? I remember then being in 1AA two years ago, then they just took the step to 6A or what?

I also heard from a friend that Lourdes was moving back next year. If this is true this section would have quite a bit of talent with Fairbault back in Section 1.

Just think about it.

Albert Lea 18-7-0
West 18-6-1
Fairbault 16-8-1
Rochester Lourdes 20-3-1

Plus on any givin year East, Austin, Marshall, and NU could all join the mix.

Now this would be a fun section to watch.

Also, Why are so many terrible teams shuved into this section? It is the largest one in the state and the bottom half all have seven wins or less. I want to see Section 1 start getting some recognition, and these teams (Sleepy eye, Fairmont, Redwood V., and a couple others) do not help.

Any opinions?

Puckhandler · Post by **Puckhandler** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:28 pm

Quality of teams has nothing to do with building a section. Geography has everything to do with it. The section is typically weak because teams in south/southwest MN typically aren't as strong as other programs.

When they re-do the sections, they will start with the top 64 schools in size and place them into the 8 AA sections, then they'll fit in the teams that opt up. Then they'll try to geographically split the remaining teams into 8 A sections.

I think.

ZAMBONI · Post by **ZAMBONI** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:19 pm

SECTION 1A use to have Red Wing, Northfield and Rochester Lourdes. Then they started to move these teams out of the section and each year it has become more and more of a CAKE WALK. The minnesota high school leauge needs to re-zone all the sections in the state Class A and Class AA to get the best teams possible to the state tournament. You see more blow outs in the Class A than you do in the Class AA. And in the Class AA section playoffs you will see about 3 or 4 teams that should be at the state tournament and only one goes. And then you will see another section that has all weak teams and when that team gets to state they get blowen out. They need to re-zone for this reason in both class A and AA. Maybe they should split the section playoffs into two parts to get the best teams to state.

The way the high school leauge has the tournament set up now is more for FUN rather than for it to be competitive, thats why they started the Class A tournament because some of the coaches were saying that they would never have a chance to go to state. Example = Albert Lea never made it to state in Class AA, but they had some good runs at it and never got past the Rochester teams or Lakeville. Back in the Class AA days a few years ago when a Rochester team went to state they would do some damage or win the tournament. Jm and Mayo were hot teams back then.

Puckhandler · Post by **Puckhandler** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:53 pm

ZAMBONI wrote:SECTION 1A use to have Red Wing, Northfield and Rochester Lourdes. Then they started to move these teams out of the section and each year it has become more and more of a CAKE WALK. The minnesota high school leauge needs to re-zone all the sections in the state Class A and Class AA to get the best teams possible to the state tournament. You see more blow outs in the Class A than you do in the Class AA. And in the Class AA section playoffs you will see about 3 or 4 teams that should be at the state tournament and only one goes. And then you will see another section that has all weak teams and when that team gets to state they get blowen out. They need to re-zone for this reason in both class A and AA. Maybe they should split the section playoffs into two parts to get the best teams to state.

The way the high school leauge has the tournament set up now is more for FUN rather than for it to be competitive, thats why they started the Class A tournament because some of the coaches were saying that they would never have a chance to go to state. Example = Albert Lea never made it to state in Class AA, but they had some good runs at it and never got past the Rochester teams or Lakeville. Back in the Class AA days a few years ago when a Rochester team went to state they would do some damage or win the tournament. Jm and Mayo were hot teams back then.

What you describe is a lot of what was the Tier I/II system that was in place and flopped beyond belief.

People need to understand that the State hockey tournament is not a tournament that represents the best 8 in the state, but represents the best teams from 8 geographic areas for both large schools and small.

There will never be an NCAA basketball field of 64 seeded from 1 to 64, that needs to be understood.

The MSHSL is very flawed and tries to do the best they can to #1 make the most money they can, and #2 keep schools costs down due to travel.

If you look back to the early 00's when Lourdes made some nice runs, and you look the AL team 2 years ago, you had teams that could compete. Whoever goes from Section One this year will play hard, and with a few bounces, could make noise. But, with the fluctuation of talent at the A level, besides for private schools, you can't put teams in sections that will constantly be rock solid.

Look at Warroad last year, after their run of 3 phenominal teams. Even look at Lourdes last year, are they the savior? Albert Lea beat them last year.

It's a tournament that is geographically based. It is what it is.

goaler · Post by **goaler** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:13 pm

Waseca 10, Mankato East 8

Waseca plays Albert Lea Thursday in Albert Lea.

powerplay009 · Post by **powerplay009** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:20 pm

Waseca 10, Mankato East 8

WOW

Otis Day · Post by **Otis Day** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:25 pm

Luverne 9 Farimont 1

Luverne goes up to New Ulm. Any predictions on this one?

LetsPlayHockey · Post by **LetsPlayHockey** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:27 pm

Does anyone know how the other games turned out?
Windom vs Redwood
Leverne vs Fairmont
Austin vs Sleepy Eye

ilovelife23 · Post by **ilovelife23** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:32 pm

the east waseca was a high scoring game for sure but the outcome was different from what i thought it'd be. maybe because east's coach decided to sit their best goal scorer and pretty good defenseman. why he did so? i dont know but i do know if he woulda played kolstad this game more than likely would of had a different outcome. meyer great night for waseca... 12 and 21 for east also had good games.

anyone got scores/outcomes for austin/se, luvurne/farimont, and windom/rwv??

LetsPlayHockey · Post by **LetsPlayHockey** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:06 pm

The East coach sat Kolstad and Means because of their big mouths. Apparently both of the kids were lipping of to their coach and the coach finally got sick of it and sat them. Big props to the head coach of East. I don't care who you are you have to respect your coach!!!

grafmaster · Post by **grafmaster** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:11 pm

Windom - 3

RWV - 1

Windom vs. West Thursday

ilovelife23 · Post by **ilovelife23** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:19 pm

it was 27 from east not 21 my mistake

katoguy · Post by **katoguy** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:40 pm

Yep 12 and 27, the only 2 senior hangovers from last years championship team played like they wanted their season to keep going and its too bad they are not. Shots were something like 40-30 for east all three goalies that got in were absolutely horrible. 12 had 4 goals for east 9 had 2 and 27 and 22 had 1 apiece

bigbabyblue · Post by **bigbabyblue** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:42 pm

ya it was a good decision but a bad one to because there is other ways to go around back talking him a little skating or something because they could of really used both of them..... i wish AL could have played east because they wouldnt of even had to score on East goalie East would would score on themselves for AL hahahaha...... also o god joey olson did not make walton flinch a bit come on ilovelife23 aka joey olson himself you didnt make him flinch at all come on man get with it he stood there like a man.... also ZAMBONI this isnt how you spell leauge it is LEAGUE**....just because i do not like you!

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