The Real Bantam A Rankings!!!

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How is this Ranking?

Great
23
20%
Good
51
44%
Bad
19
16%
Ugly
23
20%
 
Total votes: 116

Stealth
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Post by Stealth »

Chuck when the Regionals Tournaments are set for all four (32 teams) Regions. Could you rank them overall even though some good team failed to make it? The Semi Finals Power Rankings. Nobody is outside looking in, they have made it to the porch and looking to dance.


It would also be interesting to see a double "AA" and a single "A" breakdown, as allot of kids head to high school? Kinda like who could be at the big show in two to three years for the respectable brackets.
Like that Hermantown loss to Duluth East for #1 seat. But one is 2A size school program and the other is 1A.

Who knows maybe there is a odd's maker in the group too? :wink:
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Post by elliott70 »

Duluth East is a single A school based on their size.

They make an election to play in AA.
As does Cloquet (I believe - not sure of their co-op size).
Grand Rapids, Roseau, Bemidji and St Cloud Apollo in 7 & 8 played up this year.
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Post by Chuck Norris Fan »

OK you asked for you got it. I think I have everyone on the list. This is the rankings for the teams that are left standing after a hard weekend. Keep in mind there are other teams that are better but got beat along the way. Good luck to all in regions next weekend.

1. EP - DUH
2. Wyzata - solid top to bottom
3. Centennial - the only team that can repeat!!!!
4. Duluth East - Wow would hate to be in the East Regional
5. Edina - has been coming on lately
6. Tartan - Top Goalie on solid team
7. Moorhead - I guess just waiting till end of year to play.
8. Jefferson - THUGS
9. Lakeville South - great playoff run
10. Rochester - outstanding PP

11. Stillwater - Great D step up and play
12. Hermantown - a quick team real aggressive
13. Brainerd - good goaltender and solid lines
14. Grand Rapids - Up and down year lets see how it goes when it counts
15. Roseau - Getting better since getting beat up in Moorhead
16. Bemidji - could be a dangerous team
17. Elk River - aggressive play and a solid goaltender
18. White Bear Lake - playing better as of late, still not scoring goals
19. Eagan - 6 overtime marathon with woodbury gets them here
20. Blaine - Victory of Andover gets them in, "thank god St. Cloud loss!!"

21. Hopkins - Playing good hockey at the right time
22. Osseo - needs to step it up if they want to have a chance
23. Cloquet - the #8 team in the east region
24. Virginia - yawn
25. Hibbing - yawn 2
26. East Grand - yawn 3
27. Sartell - good team for district 5
28. Highland -
29. Buffalo -
30. Mound West Tonka -
31. Fairbault -
32. Owatonna - No state for you this year
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Post by Stealth »

Hey Chuck,
Buffalo is out. Think your missing a District 1 team?
Going thru the grid for Regions I just noticed that D2 #3 is in the South and 1 & 2 are in the East. Weird as my typing skills.
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Buffalo

Post by Chuck Norris Fan »

Sorry to slight anyone who is the other team from that district however it will not matter. they have no chance
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Post by shoot and score1 »

so who is in each region
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Post by Stealth »

Here Pucknutz 69 has a nice link started with his (hopefully male) and maybe add your predictions too?
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic. ... highlight=

Boblee where you making one up too?

P.S. Chuck nearly 49,000 hits on here and not even a sticky. Nicely done!
Second only two the B1 link.
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Post by SotaH0ck14 »

how is highland? what about Owatanna?
do they have any chance of beating Lakeville South and Eagan in their pool in the South region??
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Post by 14hockey »

Grand Rapids 3
Duluth East 1
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Post by GR3343 »

Hey, Chuck, let's see how the GR vs DE rematch goes tonight, then maybe you redo your rankings.
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Post by hockeypro30 »

Does anyone know how good Duluth east and Eagan is??
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Post by Pucknutz69 »

hockeypro30 wrote:Does anyone know how good Duluth east and Eagan is??
Both are pretty bad they should have a hard time even getting to the rinks for Regionals.

Seriously though "Do you read any of the other posts or rankings?" Both are ranked in the top 20 all year and have won some big games in districts. So to answer your question YES they are good and both could wind up in the State tournament.
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Post by GR3343 »

GR3343 wrote:Hey, Chuck, let's see how the GR vs DE rematch goes tonight, then maybe you redo your rankings.
East 1 GR 0. Maybe they should stay right where they are.
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Post by wannagototherink »

GR3343 wrote:
GR3343 wrote:Hey, Chuck, let's see how the GR vs DE rematch goes tonight, then maybe you redo your rankings.
East 1 GR 0. Maybe they should stay right where they are.
I think it is tough to change the rankings from here till the end. I would suspect teams that are probably top 5 or even 10 teams will lose games now. No one should be surprised by a 3 - 1 GR victory or a 1 - 0 Duluth East win, it is the playoffs, and everyone has a different attitude when the season is on the line. Now is not the time to be saying "oh we got screwed" or the Ref's *@#%ed us. That is the beauty of the playoffs. I encourage everyone to ENJOY the games coming up over the next few weeks. Appreciate a team that has no business against their opponents on paper, but is taking it to them for two periods now. That is fun, that is what hockey and more importantly playoffs are all about. Good luck to everyone out there, and when it's all said and done, the best teams will win because they'll have the trophy to prove, no amount of sour grapes can argue that.

Chuck, thank you for your service this season. You have done a great job. Like'em or hate'em your rankings have been honost. I don't think you had a hidden agenda, or an axe to grind with anyone. You put the teams that won up at the top and then adjusted accordingly. Thank you, it has been fun to follow.
"I've never seen a dumb-bell score a goal!" ~Gretter
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Post by Curt_mn »

Hey Chuck....
Now that the regions are over (just about)...

Have a couple of questions...

Give us the ranking of all teams...
and
Teams in the state tourney...
and
Thoughts on each region... (your opinionoh great one).....
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State Tourney

Post by Chuck Norris Fan »

Ok Boys here is what I got for you!

Rankings 1-8 for teams in the tourney.

1. EP - No question the best team all year
2. East - With that Goalie may be unstopable
3. Centennial - Knows how to win
4. Wayzata - Great defensivley, can they score the goals needed?
5. Rochester - Fantastic power play, but little else
6. Bemidji - Great team play got them by some good teams to get here
7. Roseau - What can you say they play when it counts
8. White Bear Lake - Great break on the region, and Made the most of the opportunity!!

Now for bracketology!

E 1 Centennial
----------------------Centennial
S 2 White Bear
--------------------------------------- Centennial
N 2 Bemidji
----------------------Wayzata
W 1 Wayzata

-------------------------------------------------------------Centennial

E 2 East
-----------------------East
S 1 Rochester
------------------------------------------East
S 1 Roseau
-----------------------E.P.
W 2 E.P.


I am uneasy about the Bemidji vs Wayzata game and the Rochester vs East game.... but got to go with tradition here
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Re: State Tourney

Post by elliott70 »

Bantam A - State

Quarterfinals:
E 1 Centennial
S 2 White Bear
winner Centennial

N 2 Bemidji
W 1 Wayzata
winner Bemidji

E 2 Duluth East
S 1 Rochester
winner Duluth East

N 1 Roseau
W 2 Eden Prairie
winner Roseau

Semifinals:
Centennial vs Bemidji
winner Bemidji

Duluth East vs Roseau
winner Duluth East

championship
Bemidji vs Duluth East
winner Duluth East


consolation semis
White Bear Lake vs Wayzata
winner Wayzata

Rochester vs Eden Prairie
winner Eden Prairie

Consolation Champion
Wayzata vs Eden Prairie
winner Eden Prairie

Third Place
Centennial vs Roseau
winner Roseau
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Post by Chuck Norris Fan »

Elliot?? Come on all north.... lets be real here. northern team doesn't lose except the finals with another nothern team!!!! I don't think that is what is going to happen, however I think Bemidji could beat the Trojans.
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Post by PuckTime »

Elliot - Keep on dreaming. I may eat crow, but I don't think Bemidji will make it out of the first round.
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Post by otter4 »

I'm with Elliot on Bemidji winning the first round. After that, I think is too optimistic. I may be joining you for the crow feast, pucktime!
PuckTime wrote:Elliot - Keep on dreaming. I may eat crow, but I don't think Bemidji will make it out of the first round.
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Post by dpsaucer5 »

does fbo really deserve to be down at about 30? i mean they tied wbl and could have beat rochester if they could have stayed out of the box. i dont think your giving that team enough credit..
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Post by elliott70 »

What is the most important postion in hockey, especially in tight games?
In play-off games?
Who can carry a team?
Who can win a game for a team?

The goalie?
Yes, the goalie.

Bemidji has two very good goalies.
They have some good D in front of them.
They have forwards that get back very well and focus on offense starting with good D zone coverage.
They have two coaches that preach good D.
They have parents that are proud of their kids for the number of blocked shots they have.

Solid defense gives you a chance to win.

I am being optimistic, but where is it written that the best teams are from big metro suburbs?
No where? Right, no where.

Bemidji has beat Moorhead twice and lost twice. Same to Roseau.
They went 2 and 1 with Grand Rapids. They have beat Brainerd.
And whether anyone wants to admit it, those four teams are four very good teams. Among the best in the state.
So doesn't that make Bemidji a top team?

Bemdiji may lose two and be done.
But then again........
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Post by minnmoose5 »

Bemidji isnt a top 2 team they have one goalie that is probably one of the best in state and a few good players. I watched them a few times and most of the time they were in it because of their goalie. They are a good team but not top 2 in state
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Post by elliott70 »

The question is not if Bemidij is one of the top two teams in the state.
The question is, "Can Bemidji win their next two games?"
Of course they can.
Burnsville vs AHA.......
Cretin vs Woodbury......
If your team is on the ice for the opening face-off, you have a chance to win.
Are they capable of beating any of the other seven teams at the state tournament?
That becomes an interesting question. Karl Gohring made how many saves against Dultuh East before his team finally scored the game winner?

As I briefly outlined, Bemidji plays good team D. Good D gives you a chance to win.

EP and Duluth East are the two top teams (probably). Centennial a very good team. But White Bear Lake, Wayzata, Roseau, and Rochester are not that good? Well, yes, I think they are. And someone could (should) come on this thread and make an argument as to why one of those teams ahs the ability to make it to the final game.

Good luck to all eight!
May they all play 'good hockey'.
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Post by Curt_mn »

Both Duluth East and Centennial are beatable....

We should know....
Elk River took Centennial into overtime in the district finials...
Elk River took DE into two overtimes in a game that could have gone either way....if it did then we won't even be discussing East...


Relax and enjoy the season, it is why all the kids play... oh yea....hockey is also a great teacher of lifes lessons....

Just an FYI.... Brainered and GR you sound like a bunch of sore losers...

In our case, I hope Duluth East takes it all, then we (Elk River) can then say we took the State Champs into overtime - twice.....
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