Says the kid who's school was in the St. Paul City Conference for over a decade.....DemonHockey13 wrote: I agree 100% Coming from Cretin you konw how i feel about STA, and im tired of them being good in a JV confrence, prove themselves and play with the real players. If your soooo good prove it thats all i have to say
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thestickler07
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DemonHockey13
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Say's the kid that's school shold be in class A but moved up for more competitionthestickler07 wrote:Says the kid who's school was in the St. Paul City Conference for over a decade.....DemonHockey13 wrote: I agree 100% Coming from Cretin you konw how i feel about STA, and im tired of them being good in a JV confrence, prove themselves and play with the real players. If your soooo good prove it thats all i have to say
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thestickler07
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Ok, when you said

Edit: and speaking of beating yourself, how about that section final vs woodbury?
You were quoting me, which makes no sense at all, because St. Thomas is in class A. I think what you MEANT to do was quote YOURSELF, which is not only stupid, but would not respond to my comment. So either way you kinda beat yourself.DemonHockey13 wrote: Say's the kid that's school shold be in class A but moved up for more competition
Edit: and speaking of beating yourself, how about that section final vs woodbury?
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saintpaulhockey
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speaking of beating yourself, how about that section final vs woodbury?
Wow, you're a tool. I vould easily talk about winning state in the most dominating fashion in a long time but that would just lower us to your level. We tried to find a good conference but none wanted us because our football and baseball were too good. Plus what does the conference matter anyway? Look at AHA they have a weak conference and still won a pair of state championships. Keep this on subject, deamon guy or wahtever was just stating what he believes and you had to be a dick and bring up Woodbury. If you wanna get into this, who's your team?
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saintpaulhockey
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oh yeah and if stickler is from STA, how about those last three wins over the cadets! Was it 6-2 this year without Hickey? Oh yeah it was, and the funny thing is even among private school haters, everybody knows the Vannelli's recruit the metro, and beyond. Play with the big dogs if you're gonna try and be the gophers and recruit 8th graders. Go Duluth Marshall! Don't talk about Woodbury because you guys barely made it to state in one of the weakest sections. And dont call your win over Red Wing a blowout becuase you gut lucky their goalie pissed down his leg in the third. Oh yeah and good luck with the new transfer rules!
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thestickler07
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Its no doubt Cretin played exceptional this season, I was at the Woodbury CDH game and was actually pulling for the Raiders. Cretin just wasn't playing great hockey at section time, and that happens. CDH would have been much more competitive in the tourney then Woodbury would be.
Also CDH's play in the AA tourney last year was great. The thrashing they put on GR made the game almost tough to watch. What I get sick of, is people harassing ANYONE about their decision to play where they are assigned to play. I applaud Cretin for opting up, they aren't that far under the cut off for most sports, but they chose to play up anyway. I respect that.
I don't think St. Thomas wants to move one sport up like HM and AHA have. I think they are working to the point where they think all their sports teams can be competitive at the highest level. They have a capital campaign for a new Athletic facility/fieldhouse/pool, which should be a nice boost for them because god knows they need the space. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see them move up soon, not next reassignement meeting soon, but maybe 2011-2012. In the meantime though, let it be, St. Thomas is playing in their assigned section, and class, and will continue to do so when they think they are ready.
Also CDH's play in the AA tourney last year was great. The thrashing they put on GR made the game almost tough to watch. What I get sick of, is people harassing ANYONE about their decision to play where they are assigned to play. I applaud Cretin for opting up, they aren't that far under the cut off for most sports, but they chose to play up anyway. I respect that.
I don't think St. Thomas wants to move one sport up like HM and AHA have. I think they are working to the point where they think all their sports teams can be competitive at the highest level. They have a capital campaign for a new Athletic facility/fieldhouse/pool, which should be a nice boost for them because god knows they need the space. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see them move up soon, not next reassignement meeting soon, but maybe 2011-2012. In the meantime though, let it be, St. Thomas is playing in their assigned section, and class, and will continue to do so when they think they are ready.
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thestickler07
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I think STA needs to move up. If they want to talk all this smack about how they are dominating every game. Sweet. But move up if you are so good. I dont think they will move up simply because they want to dominate class A for one or two more years and get some more recruits and then go up to AA. Or they might op up this year. Considering they have only 3 seniors on the team. So they will lose no one. IDK...maybe they will finally show some hair on their chest and move up. But good job for them last night beating Orono. It was a good game.
P.S. Crandall should stop throwing his blocker around, then he wouldnt get his finners cut and go to the bench to get a bandaid. And at one point in the game he had 3 shots...2 goals...
P.S. Crandall should stop throwing his blocker around, then he wouldnt get his finners cut and go to the bench to get a bandaid. And at one point in the game he had 3 shots...2 goals...
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DemonHockey13
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First off, STA needs to sac up and play real hockey. Look at Roseau, they graduate like 67 guys and play in AA.thestickler07 wrote:Just an fyi too, Cretin petitioned for membership in the CSC, and appealed it, the only conference they did so for. The vote each time was 8-1 against, guess who the 1 vote for them was?
Second off, STA is to scared to move up because they aren't good enough to compete for state in AA. So i guess there would be no take STAte for them.
Third off, i second stphockey stickler ur a tool
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thestickler07
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Why am I a tool? Because I'm not pissing and crying about my team not going to state? Honestly, Roseau chooses to play AA hockey because that's what the town lives on. They have the tradition, while St. Thomas does not. Cretin made a decision to play in the largest class for each sport, that's fine. St. Thomas, although they are about 750 people under the cutoff, chose not to. Are they good enough to play AA? According to you they aren't, so why are you still complaining they should play up? 
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DemonHockey13
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Doesnt mean we can't argue aboutCristo wrote:Just checked with the MSHSL boys, turns out it's not up to the fans when deciding when STA should opt up. Eh, well, maybe next year.
Stickler uknow what i meant when i said they couldnt compete, i think they can but they couldnt be as good as they are in class A, i mean they did beat Hill, they can play with those teams but they cant domintate like they do
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thestickler07
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1 State title in their history isn't exactly dominating. Honestly, I agree, St. Thomas should play up in AA, I think they could do fairly well and make an occasional trip to St. Paul. However it isn't my call, and St. Thomas has never opted up in anything ever, they have always played where they were assigned to play. I think if they can sustain their recent success for another 5-6 years the school would look foolish for not doing so. I think its unrealistic to think that the STA administration, after winning one state title, would have applied to opt up the next year. I would have liked to see them in 3AA next year with Rosemount, Hastings, Woodbury, and of course Cretin.
Would have made for a heck of a section tournament.
STA isn't going to have problem with transfer rules. the kids will just come in as ninth graders, when the high school starts. about 50 new kids come in every year as new students to the Academy, are suspend them all the new students for a year? i don't think so. there will be no problem with transfer rules.saintpaulhockey wrote:oh yeah and if stickler is from STA, how about those last three wins over the cadets! Was it 6-2 this year without Hickey? Oh yeah it was, and the funny thing is even among private school haters, everybody knows the Vannelli's recruit the metro, and beyond. Play with the big dogs if you're gonna try and be the gophers and recruit 8th graders. Go Duluth Marshall! Don't talk about Woodbury because you guys barely made it to state in one of the weakest sections. And dont call your win over Red Wing a blowout becuase you gut lucky their goalie pissed down his leg in the third. Oh yeah and good luck with the new transfer rules!
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DemonHockey13
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Check that one, cause look at Saintly he's a transfor, honstly deacon u know that if these rules were not in play next year STA would get more transfers to come.deacon wrote:STA isn't going to have problem with transfer rules. the kids will just come in as ninth graders, when the high school starts. about 50 new kids come in every year as new students to the Academy, are suspend them all the new students for a year? i don't think so. there will be no problem with transfer rules.saintpaulhockey wrote:oh yeah and if stickler is from STA, how about those last three wins over the cadets! Was it 6-2 this year without Hickey? Oh yeah it was, and the funny thing is even among private school haters, everybody knows the Vannelli's recruit the metro, and beyond. Play with the big dogs if you're gonna try and be the gophers and recruit 8th graders. Go Duluth Marshall! Don't talk about Woodbury because you guys barely made it to state in one of the weakest sections. And dont call your win over Red Wing a blowout becuase you gut lucky their goalie pissed down his leg in the third. Oh yeah and good luck with the new transfer rules!
Going back to the STA giong to class AA.. I think thye have shown in the past 3 years that they are going to be a good hockey program with a arena that nice and why wouldnt they want to go the a program like that. If these kids come to STA for hockey, chacnes our they are giong to be playin other sports which would allow them to get better at those sports, i think they shuld move up in only hockey in 09 and than see how much as a WHOLE programe they do if they wanna bring any other sports up
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BUT they won't be able to SUCK jumiors and seniors out of there schools anymore as they have done in the past. IT will be great....OH and yes of course they should move up. They really should be embarrsed by not moving up. If the Rams can do it the recruit masters should be able to.deacon wrote:STA isn't going to have problem with transfer rules. the kids will just come in as ninth graders, when the high school starts. about 50 new kids come in every year as new students to the Academy, are suspend them all the new students for a year? i don't think so. there will be no problem with transfer rules.saintpaulhockey wrote:oh yeah and if stickler is from STA, how about those last three wins over the cadets! Was it 6-2 this year without Hickey? Oh yeah it was, and the funny thing is even among private school haters, everybody knows the Vannelli's recruit the metro, and beyond. Play with the big dogs if you're gonna try and be the gophers and recruit 8th graders. Go Duluth Marshall! Don't talk about Woodbury because you guys barely made it to state in one of the weakest sections. And dont call your win over Red Wing a blowout becuase you gut lucky their goalie pissed down his leg in the third. Oh yeah and good luck with the new transfer rules!
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Ok I agree with that they should opt up, what I dont agree on is that you act like Hastings is a powerhouse. They won 4 games this year and will maybe win 10 next year, but yes that would be a good section to put them in.1 State title in their history isn't exactly dominating. Honestly, I agree, St. Thomas should play up in AA, I think they could do fairly well and make an occasional trip to St. Paul. However it isn't my call, and St. Thomas has never opted up in anything ever, they have always played where they were assigned to play. I think if they can sustain their recent success for another 5-6 years the school would look foolish for not doing so. I think its unrealistic to think that the STA administration, after winning one state title, would have applied to opt up the next year. I would have liked to see them in 3AA next year with Rosemount, Hastings, Woodbury, and of course Cretin. Very Happy Would have made for a heck of a section tournament.
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hey stphockey the gophers don't recruit eighth graders i'm a sta fan and i think we're really good and honestly i couldn't care less what you say about moving up on this forum we are where we are...and we're winning!
You obviously know a lot about hockey. Yeah you win! Congrats, but maybe, just maybe, you should consider moving up to AA since you do steal the other suburban teams players and have more graduating guys per class than almost every team. I am not saying you guys arent good, you are good, I would have to be an idiot to say that. But you arent any better than good, until you beat the big dogs. The Hill Murray game does'nt count because that was one game and it wasnt playoffs. I think success at the AA would earn STA tons of respect, and even do wonders for the program.
i know they got transfers that were older than ninth graders. my point is, they will get the kids to come in ninth grade, thus avoiding any transfer rules.
and yes, with no transfer rules, they will still get older kids to transfer to the Academy, its just the way it is.
i'm not disagreeing with anyone, its just the way it is, imo (in my opinion)
and yes, with no transfer rules, they will still get older kids to transfer to the Academy, its just the way it is.
i'm not disagreeing with anyone, its just the way it is, imo (in my opinion)