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Fair enough. I think that some of the A players get a chance to play Varsity level hockey for a longer period of time due to the smaller numbers and that may have something to do with it too.HOFamer wrote:flatontheice wrote:Gopher33:gopherhockey33 wrote:wow 1 example congratulations.
This was cut from a message someone else left. I would get my fact straight first before making such a stupid comment.
•There are 191 Schools with registered hockey programs in Minnesota
•Within those schools, there are 4372 rostered varsity players.
•The total enrollment within these 191 schools in 2005 was 203,144 students.
•89 were AA programs and 102 were A programs.
•The rostered AA hockey player numbers were 2525 and for A level was 1847. This is from the MSHSL annual report.
•The 89 AA programs represented 107,806 of the students and the 102 A programs represented 95,338 of the student base.
•In 2005 there were 149 Division 1 Hockey players from Minnesota.
•Of the 159 Division 1 Hockey players 79 were from AA programs and 70 were from A programs.
•The Division 1 Hockey player to student ratio at AA Schools .00073 or .073%
•The Division 1 Hockey player to student ratio at A Schools is .00073 or .073%
•The Division 1 Hockey Player to rostered player ratio at AA Schools is .031 or 3.1%.
•The Division 1 Hockey Player to rostered player ratio at A Schools is .038 or 3.8%.
•This means that from the top level there is an 18% higher chance of playing Division 1 coming from an A level school.
•Of the 149 Division 1 players from Minnesota, 49 of them were from private schools or 33%. The enrollment weighting at these private schools was 9689 students. That means that only 4.8% of the student population represents 33% of the Division 1 players from Minnesota. Using a simple statistics calculation which I don’t want to bore you with the details, it breaks down to the fact you increase your chances of playing Division 1 hockey 18x by playing at a private school. What is more noticeable is that out of the 49 Division 1 players from Private Schools, 29 were from smaller (A ) schools. Benilde was included in the A calculation due to the numbers being from the 2004-2005 season.
•So using the same calculation, you increase your chances of playing Division 1 hockey by a factor of 30 if you play hockey at a small private school.
The probability of getting drafted in the NHL draft if you throw out the NDP and Shattuck is even higher if you attend a A level school (TJ Oshie, Matt Niskanen, Blake Wheeler, Peter Mueler). I would put all the numbers and stats on here that gave me the calculation but the odds are so skewed in favor of the smaller schools it is hard to understand. So for those of you that argue that you get discovered or get “more exposure” by playing AA hockey, the numbers are just not there to support it.
awesome stats...however, you're just looking at one year. I would imagine and i don't know this for a fact..but over the years the stats would be different. Bottom line is that if you are a good hockey player you will be found and exposure at the AA level is an element but obviously in 2005 it did not mean much...other than that AA teams have more depth and play better competition while A players get more time and the puck on their more to show their stuff...it all equals out in the end....
U-17 2aa/3a
Any word on who made the team and who is making the selections this year?
Last year STA coach's picked the team, same again this year?
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Last year STA coach's picked the team, same again this year?

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They where to get a phone call by 8:00 pm last night if they made the team. The players will not know who all made the team until they get together. Ask your coach, I bet he knows.HOFamer wrote:anyone know section 8 rosters?
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Advanced 17's Final Roster
2A/3AA Advanced 17 Plymouth Festival Roster
# Player Name Pos. Team
1 Hanna, Jack R. Goalie Centennial
2 Skarman, Charles M.(Max) Defense Duluth Denfeld
3 Putney, Brent N. Defense White Bear Lake
4 Johnson, Trent M. Defense Duluth Denfeld
5 Poganski, TJ J. Defense St. Cloud Cathedral
6 Dolan, Bo J. Defense Hill-Murray
7 Stadler, Jonathon J. Defense Hill-Murray
10 Oliver, Charlie H. Forward Duluth Denfeld
11 Ferraro, Anthony V. Forward Stillwater
12 Baker, Travis J. Forward Irondale
13 Skarda, Nick J. Forward Stillwater
14 Blehm, Keegan D. Forward Stillwater
15 Effinger, Joseph P. Forward Roseville
16 Hess, Willie W. Forward Centennial
17 Hafferty, David M. Forward Duluth Marshall
18 Dettling, Paul J. Forward Roseville
19 Dishop, Josh D. Forward Roseville
21 Anderson, Daniel M. Forward Moose Lake
22 Smith, Chase J. Forward Centennial
30 Phillippi, Joseph A. Goalie Hill-Murray
8 Eide, John A. (Jack) Alt.-Defense Irondale
9 Rowe, Jonathon L. Alt.-Defense St. Cloud Cathedral
23 Talarico, Logan C. Alt.-Forward Duluth Denfeld
24 Henkemeyer, Andrew D. Alt.-Forward Sauk Rapids
25 Grove, Samuel C. Alt.-Forward Princeton
35 Tracey, Trevor K. Alt.-Goalie Duluth Central
Head Coach: Kevin Smalley
Asst. Coach: Christian Koelling
GM: Jeremy VanHalbeck
POSTED BY SECTION 2A/3AA HOCKEY AT 11:24 AM
Advanced 16's Final Roster
2A/3AA Advanced 16's Plymouth Festival Roster
# Player Name Pos. Team
1 Cotter, Richard D. Goalie Princeton
2 Schmidt, Nate Defense St. Cloud Cathedral
3 Schmitz, Joe R. Defense Centennial
4 Aus, Charlie E. Defense Cent. Bantam
6 Brown, Jacob W. Defense Hill-Murray
7 Johnson, Jordan D. Defense Hill-Murray
8 Macey, Jon R. Defense Proctor
9 Brickner, Zachary T. Forward Cent. Bantam
10 Hotchkins, Cody R. Forward Duluth Denfeld
11 Johnson, Matthew E. Forward Stillwater
12 Kohls, Isaac A. Forward Hill-Murray
13 Lovick, Jordan D. Forward Cent. Bantam
14 Mahoney, Patrick O. Forward Duluth Marshall
16 Villneauve, Anthony J. Forward White Bear Lake
17 Warner, Colton L. Forward Pine City
20 Westerhaus, Jeffrey T. Forward Hill-Murray
21 Zepeda, Tyler A. Forward Hill-Murray
22 Pitlick, Tyler Forward Centennial
23 Prescott, Paul D. Forward Hill-Murray
30 McGinley, Kirk R. Goalie Hill-Murray
24 Housley, Wilson L. Alt.-Forward Stillwater
26 Kozlak, Joe A. Alt.-Forward Duluth Marshall
28 Stauber, Derek J. Alt.-Defense Duluth Marshall
35 Bortot, Lance R. Alt.-Goalie Irondale
Head Coach: Erik Aus
Asst. Coach: Sherm Liimatainen
GM: Sheldon Weston
POSTED BY SECTION 2A/3AA HOCKEY AT 11:21 AM
2A/3AA Advanced 17 Plymouth Festival Roster
# Player Name Pos. Team
1 Hanna, Jack R. Goalie Centennial
2 Skarman, Charles M.(Max) Defense Duluth Denfeld
3 Putney, Brent N. Defense White Bear Lake
4 Johnson, Trent M. Defense Duluth Denfeld
5 Poganski, TJ J. Defense St. Cloud Cathedral
6 Dolan, Bo J. Defense Hill-Murray
7 Stadler, Jonathon J. Defense Hill-Murray
10 Oliver, Charlie H. Forward Duluth Denfeld
11 Ferraro, Anthony V. Forward Stillwater
12 Baker, Travis J. Forward Irondale
13 Skarda, Nick J. Forward Stillwater
14 Blehm, Keegan D. Forward Stillwater
15 Effinger, Joseph P. Forward Roseville
16 Hess, Willie W. Forward Centennial
17 Hafferty, David M. Forward Duluth Marshall
18 Dettling, Paul J. Forward Roseville
19 Dishop, Josh D. Forward Roseville
21 Anderson, Daniel M. Forward Moose Lake
22 Smith, Chase J. Forward Centennial
30 Phillippi, Joseph A. Goalie Hill-Murray
8 Eide, John A. (Jack) Alt.-Defense Irondale
9 Rowe, Jonathon L. Alt.-Defense St. Cloud Cathedral
23 Talarico, Logan C. Alt.-Forward Duluth Denfeld
24 Henkemeyer, Andrew D. Alt.-Forward Sauk Rapids
25 Grove, Samuel C. Alt.-Forward Princeton
35 Tracey, Trevor K. Alt.-Goalie Duluth Central
Head Coach: Kevin Smalley
Asst. Coach: Christian Koelling
GM: Jeremy VanHalbeck
POSTED BY SECTION 2A/3AA HOCKEY AT 11:24 AM
Advanced 16's Final Roster
2A/3AA Advanced 16's Plymouth Festival Roster
# Player Name Pos. Team
1 Cotter, Richard D. Goalie Princeton
2 Schmidt, Nate Defense St. Cloud Cathedral
3 Schmitz, Joe R. Defense Centennial
4 Aus, Charlie E. Defense Cent. Bantam
6 Brown, Jacob W. Defense Hill-Murray
7 Johnson, Jordan D. Defense Hill-Murray
8 Macey, Jon R. Defense Proctor
9 Brickner, Zachary T. Forward Cent. Bantam
10 Hotchkins, Cody R. Forward Duluth Denfeld
11 Johnson, Matthew E. Forward Stillwater
12 Kohls, Isaac A. Forward Hill-Murray
13 Lovick, Jordan D. Forward Cent. Bantam
14 Mahoney, Patrick O. Forward Duluth Marshall
16 Villneauve, Anthony J. Forward White Bear Lake
17 Warner, Colton L. Forward Pine City
20 Westerhaus, Jeffrey T. Forward Hill-Murray
21 Zepeda, Tyler A. Forward Hill-Murray
22 Pitlick, Tyler Forward Centennial
23 Prescott, Paul D. Forward Hill-Murray
30 McGinley, Kirk R. Goalie Hill-Murray
24 Housley, Wilson L. Alt.-Forward Stillwater
26 Kozlak, Joe A. Alt.-Forward Duluth Marshall
28 Stauber, Derek J. Alt.-Defense Duluth Marshall
35 Bortot, Lance R. Alt.-Goalie Irondale
Head Coach: Erik Aus
Asst. Coach: Sherm Liimatainen
GM: Sheldon Weston
POSTED BY SECTION 2A/3AA HOCKEY AT 11:21 AM
That 16 team is loaded2pipesnin wrote:Advanced 17's Final Roster
2A/3AA Advanced 17 Plymouth Festival Roster
# Player Name Pos. Team
1 Hanna, Jack R. Goalie Centennial
2 Skarman, Charles M.(Max) Defense Duluth Denfeld
3 Putney, Brent N. Defense White Bear Lake
4 Johnson, Trent M. Defense Duluth Denfeld
5 Poganski, TJ J. Defense St. Cloud Cathedral
6 Dolan, Bo J. Defense Hill-Murray
7 Stadler, Jonathon J. Defense Hill-Murray
10 Oliver, Charlie H. Forward Duluth Denfeld
11 Ferraro, Anthony V. Forward Stillwater
12 Baker, Travis J. Forward Irondale
13 Skarda, Nick J. Forward Stillwater
14 Blehm, Keegan D. Forward Stillwater
15 Effinger, Joseph P. Forward Roseville
16 Hess, Willie W. Forward Centennial
17 Hafferty, David M. Forward Duluth Marshall
18 Dettling, Paul J. Forward Roseville
19 Dishop, Josh D. Forward Roseville
21 Anderson, Daniel M. Forward Moose Lake
22 Smith, Chase J. Forward Centennial
30 Phillippi, Joseph A. Goalie Hill-Murray
8 Eide, John A. (Jack) Alt.-Defense Irondale
9 Rowe, Jonathon L. Alt.-Defense St. Cloud Cathedral
23 Talarico, Logan C. Alt.-Forward Duluth Denfeld
24 Henkemeyer, Andrew D. Alt.-Forward Sauk Rapids
25 Grove, Samuel C. Alt.-Forward Princeton
35 Tracey, Trevor K. Alt.-Goalie Duluth Central
Head Coach: Kevin Smalley
Asst. Coach: Christian Koelling
GM: Jeremy VanHalbeck
POSTED BY SECTION 2A/3AA HOCKEY AT 11:24 AM
Advanced 16's Final Roster
2A/3AA Advanced 16's Plymouth Festival Roster
# Player Name Pos. Team
1 Cotter, Richard D. Goalie Princeton
2 Schmidt, Nate Defense St. Cloud Cathedral
3 Schmitz, Joe R. Defense Centennial
4 Aus, Charlie E. Defense Cent. Bantam
6 Brown, Jacob W. Defense Hill-Murray
7 Johnson, Jordan D. Defense Hill-Murray
8 Macey, Jon R. Defense Proctor
9 Brickner, Zachary T. Forward Cent. Bantam
10 Hotchkins, Cody R. Forward Duluth Denfeld
11 Johnson, Matthew E. Forward Stillwater
12 Kohls, Isaac A. Forward Hill-Murray
13 Lovick, Jordan D. Forward Cent. Bantam
14 Mahoney, Patrick O. Forward Duluth Marshall
16 Villneauve, Anthony J. Forward White Bear Lake
17 Warner, Colton L. Forward Pine City
20 Westerhaus, Jeffrey T. Forward Hill-Murray
21 Zepeda, Tyler A. Forward Hill-Murray
22 Pitlick, Tyler Forward Centennial
23 Prescott, Paul D. Forward Hill-Murray
30 McGinley, Kirk R. Goalie Hill-Murray
24 Housley, Wilson L. Alt.-Forward Stillwater
26 Kozlak, Joe A. Alt.-Forward Duluth Marshall
28 Stauber, Derek J. Alt.-Defense Duluth Marshall
35 Bortot, Lance R. Alt.-Goalie Irondale
Head Coach: Erik Aus
Asst. Coach: Sherm Liimatainen
GM: Sheldon Weston
POSTED BY SECTION 2A/3AA HOCKEY AT 11:21 AM
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HOfamer, good luck in finding this list. I don't think it will get published.
Politicized? Maybe. Fund raiser for Minnesota Hockey? Definitely. I have it on good authority that there were more than a few "extra" skaters at the section 8 tryout. Invitation only? Just show up. They will be more than happy to take your money. No one was turned away!
Politicized? Maybe. Fund raiser for Minnesota Hockey? Definitely. I have it on good authority that there were more than a few "extra" skaters at the section 8 tryout. Invitation only? Just show up. They will be more than happy to take your money. No one was turned away!
I agree...52 skaters for the 16's was ridicules...think there were 6 from River lakes and 6 from Monticello....honestly a couple could not skate a lick...not as bad at 17 level...much more competitiveSunDoggie1 wrote:HOfamer, good luck in finding this list. I don't think it will get published.
Politicized? Maybe. Fund raiser for Minnesota Hockey? Definitely. I have it on good authority that there were more than a few "extra" skaters at the section 8 tryout. Invitation only? Just show up. They will be more than happy to take your money. No one was turned away!
Some surprises for me beyond the usual cast of 17's....a kid from Park Rapids was highly skilled and a kid from Buffalo scored a number of goals and had speed and great hands.
All lists will be published eventually - they give out programs at the Plymouth Festival. Not that hard to guess who made the team. Look at the top players in the top programs.SunDoggie1 wrote:HOfamer, good luck in finding this list. I don't think it will get published.
Politicized? Maybe. Fund raiser for Minnesota Hockey? Definitely. I have it on good authority that there were more than a few "extra" skaters at the section 8 tryout. Invitation only? Just show up. They will be more than happy to take your money. No one was turned away!
Of course he does . . . he approves them.HOFamer wrote:I asked...he doesn't know....RLStars wrote:They where to get a phone call by 8:00 pm last night if they made the team. The players will not know who all made the team until they get together. Ask your coach, I bet he knows.HOFamer wrote:anyone know section 8 rosters?
Great88 wrote:I agree...52 skaters for the 16's was ridicules...think there were 6 from River lakes and 6 from Monticello....honestly a couple could not skate a lick...not as bad at 17 level...much more competitiveSunDoggie1 wrote:HOfamer, good luck in finding this list. I don't think it will get published.
Politicized? Maybe. Fund raiser for Minnesota Hockey? Definitely. I have it on good authority that there were more than a few "extra" skaters at the section 8 tryout. Invitation only? Just show up. They will be more than happy to take your money. No one was turned away!
Some surprises for me beyond the usual cast of 17's....a kid from Park Rapids (Zach Lehrke) was highly skilled and a kid from Buffalo scored a number of goals and had speed and great hands.
HUH? Sounds like you are saying the Buffalo HS coach approves the kids who made the team? I find that highly doubtful since he was only at Saturdays tryout and didn't even attend Sunday??? Puckguy19 what exactly are you saying??? I swear you sound like a lawyer sometimes???Puckguy19 wrote:Of course he does . . . he approves them.HOFamer wrote:I asked...he doesn't know....RLStars wrote: They where to get a phone call by 8:00 pm last night if they made the team. The players will not know who all made the team until they get together. Ask your coach, I bet he knows.
Puckguy19 since you're from Monticello who made it off your team ot of the dozen or so kids you guys sent?Puckguy19 wrote:All lists will be published eventually - they give out programs at the Plymouth Festival. Not that hard to guess who made the team. Look at the top players in the top programs.SunDoggie1 wrote:HOfamer, good luck in finding this list. I don't think it will get published.
Politicized? Maybe. Fund raiser for Minnesota Hockey? Definitely. I have it on good authority that there were more than a few "extra" skaters at the section 8 tryout. Invitation only? Just show up. They will be more than happy to take your money. No one was turned away!