Private Schools

LetsPlayHockey22 · Post by **LetsPlayHockey22** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 3:02 pm

What do you think of kids leaving their teammates to play for a private school? Some of the schools even have freshman teams (Bantam B1), even though from what I saw this year, Blake was a very solid team, the only other schools i know of that has a private school bantam b1 team is Minnehaha Academy and Duluth Marshall and they were ok. But what does everyone think of kids playing for a private school? and do you think other schools will start having bantam teams? (Totino-Grace, Holy Angels,Hill-Murray)

buckeyehockey17 · Post by **buckeyehockey17** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:00 pm

I know Benilde is thinking of having a Bantam B1 team next year and then moving it to Bantam A the year after

Edinagoalie0 · Post by **Edinagoalie0** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:41 pm

what was cool of edina's sophomore line with buddish, gaarder, etc. they all made a agreement with each other that they would stay at edina high school and they wouldn't go to a private school. they are going to be the backbone of the edina team for the next two years.

rbkhockeyman2070 · Post by **rbkhockeyman2070** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:06 pm

I think if you know you wont make it as a sophomore or junior in a big school like Edina or Ep or Wayzata and they have a good hockey team above your level. Thats when you think about privit school, In privite school you might get more playing time. Yeah you team might not be that good but there are some good team that you could make it as a first year; Blake Breck; Benild? and more.

pucker52 · Post by **pucker52** » Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:46 pm

A few of the bigger private schools could have good bantam teams and good jv teams but only a few. Blake's teams weren't very good from what I saw (admittedly a small sample of 2 games each) and Minnehaha, well, they might have had one decent team between the two. Most of the privates will be better off letting their young kids play bantam at the associations.

I think kids and their parents had better give some deep thought to the whole thing if they are contemplating a private school just for hockey. The cost is high and at least at the prep schools, academics are much tougher and performance is expected.

animal1019 · Post by **animal1019** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:52 am

Duluth Marshall does not have a bantam team.

LetsPlayHockey22 · Post by **LetsPlayHockey22** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:37 pm

I think rbkhockeyman2070 is right. Most of the kids that go to play private school hockey is because they might not make their hometown team, or to get better recognition. There are alot of good players at private schools as well as public schools. Overall im not against private schools, it makes for good rivals against public schools.

rbkhockeyman2070 · Post by **rbkhockeyman2070** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:35 pm

I heard Michel Sit and Ryan Bulluck are going to Blake.

Edinagoalie0 · Post by **Edinagoalie0** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:40 pm

I just don't think its fair that teams who are allowed to recruit are in the same league as public schools. In my opinion, i think that class A should be exclusively private schools, and class AA should be only public schools.

Edinagoalie0 · Post by **Edinagoalie0** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:41 pm

rbkhockeyman2070 wrote:I heard Michel Sit and Ryan Bulluck are going to Blake.

I heard that to. Michael sit wuz on my team, and he wants to stay at edina. Its just that his mom wants him to go to blake. Same with his older bro david.

woody22 · Post by **woody22** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:59 pm

Edinagoalie0 check your inbox.

hustla17 · Post by **hustla17** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:43 pm

i think some people go to private school because there schools suck and they want to get noticed by scouts and they want to be on a good team. thats why most of them are good besides blake and breck

keepyourheadup · Post by **keepyourheadup** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 5:27 pm

Some kids go to private school thinking they'll be all that and when they get there they realize that some other kids can actually play the game too. IF YOU CAN PLAY THEY WILL FIND YOU. GOLOGOSKI, FISHER, LUCIA, who knows how many others. Private schools attract top quality players no doubt, but most of these kids would be "discovered" no matter where they play. David Backes played at the power house Spring Lake Park. Now he gets his pay check from the St. Louis Blues.

mnhockey22 · Post by **mnhockey22** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:04 pm

keepyourheadup wrote:Some kids go to private school thinking they'll be all that and when they get there they realize that some other kids can actually play the game too. IF YOU CAN PLAY THEY WILL FIND YOU. GOLOGOSKI, FISHER, LUCIA, who knows how many others. Private schools attract top quality players no doubt, but most of these kids would be "discovered" no matter where they play. David Backes played at the power house Spring Lake Park. Now he gets his pay check from the St. Louis Blues.

Those weren't exactly players who were at a school who had a team that "sucked."
Fischer- Apple Valey- Had a good team all year and took down top ranked Holy Angels. Apple Valley has had very good teams and is consistently putting out good teams.
Gologoski- Grand rapids- What else do you need to say. Grand Rapids is a hockey power with a lot of tradition.
Lucia- Wayzata- State Tournament sophomore year. Also a very solid hockey program with lots of good players.
You are wrong about each these players.
I'm not saying that you're compleetely wrongabout getting noticed but those three were very bad examples. And a lot of the time a move to a private school from a bad school can help you a lot. Look at Nate Breden. He led the state in points at Silver Bay but played no one. The scouts knew this and guess where he is playing hockey now?.... In the beer leagues in Silver Bay. Scouts don't always want to take a chance on a player that hasn't played against quality competition which is the case for most bad schools.

GoBears · Post by **GoBears** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:12 pm

hustla17 wrote:i think some people go to private school because there schools suck and they want to get noticed by scouts and they want to be on a good team. thats why most of them are good besides blake and breck

Thats funny stuff. Blake and Breck have had more players drafted in the NHL draft in the past five years than any other school in the state AA or A. Dont be such and idiot if you are going to make comments like that.

keepyourheadup · Post by **keepyourheadup** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:19 pm

Do we really need to name call? My point is these are just examples of kids that stayed. How many truly exceptional players come out of small programs or as its been put, teams that suck. It happens but not often. I hold no grudge against any player that leaves for private school. I just believe too many players have been led to think this is the only way to be noticed. Try this one ...Riley Gill the goalie out of Northfield(I think this would qualify as a team that generally sucks) two time CCHA player of the week this past season with the Western Michigan Broncos. Seth Helgeson seems to be getting noticed in Faribault. Nothing wrong with private schools but its not the only way. Maybe in the end if you need to work that hard to be noticed you weren't meant to get there anyway.

minnesotahockeystar15 · Wed Apr 04, 2007 11:26 pm

St. Thomas I know kids that are going there after they finished there youth hockey careers and i know kids that are going to Totino and Hill. Everybody says that private schools recruit they dont. They used to but now they have kids look at their school and now that they have open enrollment kids come from all over to play for them. But I think its cool that kids do that. Some times its more of a challenge if they do but St thomas hill and totino dont have freshman teams.

stabears · Post by **stabears** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:54 am

i think that all high schools should have freshman teams. Their are too many kids who get cut from the A team in association hockey because they are going to a private scho

When 2 private schools won the state tournament last year, im sure that helped kids decide to leave their school.

Hockeyguy_27 · Post by **Hockeyguy_27** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:18 am

stabears wrote:i think that all high schools should have freshman teams. Their are too many kids who get cut from the A team in association hockey because they are going to a private scho

When 2 private schools won the state tournament last year, im sure that helped kids decide to leave their school.

Here is my .02 worth. Private schools have been the beneficiaries of evolution of AAA summer teams. Most of these kids have a good experience playing with other like skilled players on their AAA teams as kids and then the parents become friends and get the idea to have these kids continue to play together in high school. I'm not saying this is the case with all high schools but look at Holy Angels and Benilde for example. These programs consist mostly of kids who have played AAA hockey together in the summers. Not all kids attend private schools because of hockey either and this should be pointed out.

keepyourheadup · Post by **keepyourheadup** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:44 pm

Excellent point hockeyguy right on the button. Regarding private school hockey, lets hear some opinions on what happens to the 10th and 11th graders that are allready in these programs being bumped aside by talent moving up from bantams. If even half the kids rumored to be headed to St. Thomas enroll how does it shake out. 13 players retuning and an undefeated J.V. Doesn't seem like enough jerseys to go around. Nice problem to have for Mr. Vanelli

mightyknight · Post by **mightyknight** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:11 pm

I still believe that most people would complain less about the private schools if they would go "AA". Like what was said about most of these private schools are somewhat AAA summer teams. Now why shouldn't all-star teams have to play at the best level.

minnesotahockeystar15 · Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:35 pm

Well if Private schools did have freshman teams then the freshman teams would only have a sort amount of games you also have to look at the other public schools if they had freshman teams then I would love to see private schools have them too but thats not the case. And for all private schools to move to AA that would seem right but not all of the private schools are big. Look at Hill they are tiny compared to the other AA schools but they are in it because they have always been good. But with St Thomas they are bigger but they really havent had that many stand out years since 2000. I think. But other than that I really don't see why all private schools should move to AA. Not all of them have the cradentials to be in AA. But thats just me.

stabears · Post by **stabears** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:14 pm

minnesotahockeystar15 wrote:Well if Private schools did have freshman teams then the freshman teams would only have a sort amount of games you also have to look at the other public schools if they had freshman teams then I would love to see private schools have them too but thats not the case. And for all private schools to move to AA that would seem right but not all of the private schools are big. Look at Hill they are tiny compared to the other AA schools but they are in it because they have always been good. But with St Thomas they are bigger but they really havent had that many stand out years since 2000. I think. But other than that I really don't see why all private schools should move to AA. Not all of them have the cradentials to be in AA. But thats just me.

i agree that not all private schools should move to AA
the freshman teams would play in the B bantam level so they would have around 50 games. Blake is the only school i know that does this, but benilde is thinking about having a freshman team.

minnesotahockeystar15 · Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:37 pm

stabears wrote:
minnesotahockeystar15 wrote:Well if Private schools did have freshman teams then the freshman teams would only have a sort amount of games you also have to look at the other public schools if they had freshman teams then I would love to see private schools have them too but thats not the case. And for all private schools to move to AA that would seem right but not all of the private schools are big. Look at Hill they are tiny compared to the other AA schools but they are in it because they have always been good. But with St Thomas they are bigger but they really havent had that many stand out years since 2000. I think. But other than that I really don't see why all private schools should move to AA. Not all of them have the cradentials to be in AA. But thats just me.
i agree that not all private schools should move to AA
the freshman teams would play in the B bantam level so they would have around 50 games. Blake is the only school i know that does this, but benilde is thinking about having a freshman team.

That's true I like that idea but dont you think that the private schools would waste the teams in B? I am thinking more about A maybe?

stabears · Post by **stabears** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:01 pm

i thought their was a rule that they couldnt play at a level?