NTDP Invites

breakout · Post by **breakout** » Tue May 29, 2007 11:53 am

Your predictions: what goalies, defensemen & forwards will get an invite to play at NTDP after the Advance Festivals? Or, do you think no one from these lists will be asked to go to Ann Arbor?

For your convenience, I have provided links to the 16 and 17 lists.

http://www.minnesotahockey.org/assorted ... 20List.pdf

http://www.minnesotahockey.org/assorted ... 20List.pdf

breakout · Post by **breakout** » Tue May 29, 2007 11:59 am

Personally, from the Advance 17 list I think Fink and Ness will get invites.

Although, I have heard NTDP likes D larger than Ness.

For you Ness fans, I am not suggesting he can't play at that level. NTDP coaches may not see him as a fit because of his size. However, I still predict he will get an invite.

Danny Mattson (from the 17 list), a tenth grader may get an invite as well.

Iceburg · Post by **Iceburg** » Tue May 29, 2007 1:04 pm

breakout wrote:Personally, from the Advance 17 list I think Fink and Ness will get invites.

Next year's U-18 team is already set. Very unlikely that anyone else will get the call at this point. Yhe U-17 team still has a few forward spots to fill.

breakout · Post by **breakout** » Tue May 29, 2007 1:12 pm

Iceburg wrote:
breakout wrote:Personally, from the Advance 17 list I think Fink and Ness will get invites.
Next year's U-18 team is already set. Very unlikely that anyone else will get the call at this point. Yhe U-17 team still has a few forward spots to fill.

Some on the 17s are 10th graders and would qualify. Fink and Mattson would be examples of that.

Iceburg · Post by **Iceburg** » Tue May 29, 2007 2:12 pm

The players on next year's NTDP U-18 team are '90 birthdates, which are the players that will be at this summer's Select 17 Festival. The NTDP U-17 team will be made up of '91 birthdates, which will be at the Select 16 Festival. It has nothing to do with what grade they are in, it is strictly by what year they are born in.

breakout · Post by **breakout** » Tue May 29, 2007 2:57 pm

Iceburg wrote:The players on next year's NTDP U-18 team are '90 birthdates, which are the players that will be at this summer's Select 17 Festival. The NTDP U-17 team will be made up of '91 birthdates, which will be at the Select 16 Festival. It has nothing to do with what grade they are in, it is strictly by what year they are born in.

Thanks.

Is there a website that lists the players that have been selected for both teams?

Iceburg · Post by **Iceburg** » Tue May 29, 2007 3:22 pm

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key= ... 3kFg&gid=6

This is from the college commitment board. It doesn't separate the players by which team they will be on, but instead separates by what grade they will be in. Most of they players should have their birthdate listed. '90s should be on this year's U-18 team, '91s should be on the U-17 team. The one exception might be goalie Adam Murray, who was an underage player on this past year's U-17 team.

snowwhite13 · Post by **snowwhite13** » Tue May 29, 2007 4:05 pm

i do not believe that the U18 team is set. I think that they still need 1 or 2 more forwards, and maybe 1 more D.

breakout · Post by **breakout** » Tue May 29, 2007 4:07 pm

Iceburg wrote:http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key= ... 3kFg&gid=6

This is from the college commitment board. It doesn't separate the players by which team they will be on, but instead separates by what grade they will be in. Most of they players should have their birthdate listed. '90s should be on this year's U-18 team, '91s should be on the U-17 team. The one exception might be goalie Adam Murray, who was an underage player on this past year's U-17 team.

I appreciate the information.

breakout · Post by **breakout** » Tue May 29, 2007 4:11 pm

Iceburg wrote:
breakout wrote:Personally, from the Advance 17 list I think Fink and Ness will get invites.
Next year's U-18 team is already set. Very unlikely that anyone else will get the call at this point. Yhe U-17 team still has a few forward spots to fill.

If you are correct, it looks like they carry 7 D.

Gopher Blog · Post by **Gopher Blog** » Tue May 29, 2007 4:17 pm

Given the lack of great reviews on the performance of most of the MN guys that were at the tryouts earlier this year, I am not overly optimistic about much more being added from MN.

You can only get by on prior reputation for so long before that won't cut the mustard. Especially when other players out there are developing and catching up on the early bloomers.

Don't be surprised if one MN player from "out of left field" gets asked for the U17.... although it is early on that one and he'll have to prove himself like anybody else. But he apparently caught some positive attention at the 51s in Plymouth.

breakout · Post by **breakout** » Tue May 29, 2007 4:31 pm

Gopher Blog wrote:Given the lack of great reviews on the performance of most of the MN guys that were at the tryouts earlier this year, I am not overly optimistic about much more being added from MN.

You can only get by on prior reputation for so long before that won't cut the mustard. Especially when other players out there are developing and catching up on the early bloomers.

Don't be surprised if one MN player from "out of left field" gets asked for the U17.... although it is early on that one and he'll have to prove himself like anybody else. But he apparently caught some positive attention at the 51s in Plymouth.

Thanks for the insight.

I wonder if those that tried out didn't impress, did they pick the right guys to go?

I am guessing you know who the "out of left field" kid is.

flatontheice · Post by **flatontheice** » Wed May 30, 2007 8:52 am

breakout wrote:
Gopher Blog wrote:Given the lack of great reviews on the performance of most of the MN guys that were at the tryouts earlier this year, I am not overly optimistic about much more being added from MN.

You can only get by on prior reputation for so long before that won't cut the mustard. Especially when other players out there are developing and catching up on the early bloomers.

Don't be surprised if one MN player from "out of left field" gets asked for the U17.... although it is early on that one and he'll have to prove himself like anybody else. But he apparently caught some positive attention at the 51s in Plymouth.
Thanks for the insight.

I wonder if those that tried out didn't impress, did they pick the right guys to go?

I am guessing you know who the "out of left field" kid is.

Does he wear Kelly Green and Royal Blue in the Winter?

Iceburg · Post by **Iceburg** » Wed May 30, 2007 10:35 am

flatontheice wrote:
Does he wear Kelly Green and Royal Blue in the Winter?

NO

nickel slots · Post by **nickel slots** » Wed May 30, 2007 10:48 am

Is that Red & Black, or Cardinal Red & Black?

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Wed May 30, 2007 11:34 am

Hmmm... a riddle?

Let's take a look at the list, shall we?

Alexandria
Cenntenial
Eden Prarie
Elk River
Monticello/Annandale/Maple Lake
River Lakes
Rochester John Marshall
Shakopee
St. Paul Senators
Stillwater
Worthington

Now cross reference that with the Advanced 51 participants, and your candidates are...

F - Chad Hennum (Elk River)
D - Nick Leddy (Eden Prarie)
F - Matt Johnson (Stillwater)
D - Blake Thompson (Eden Prairie)
F - Tyler Pitlick (Centennial)

Since the USNTDP has plenty of defensemen, and Tyler Pitlick wouldn't be "out of left field", we're left with Hennum and Johnson, both of whom were chosen for the National Select 16 Camp. Reports say Johnson was very impressive, so I'll take him as my guess.

Hopefully, Tyler Kieffer can do a little convincing and he'll be wearing the same colors for his college team!

breakout · Post by **breakout** » Wed May 30, 2007 11:36 am

Cardinal Red...........Kelly Green???

I must live in a tunnel. Is HGTV making an impact???

Sorry, too much coffee today. I am a bit goofier than normal.

nickel slots · Post by **nickel slots** » Wed May 30, 2007 1:06 pm

Let's take a look at the list, shall we?

Alexandria
Cenntenial
Eden Prarie
Elk River
Monticello/Annandale/Maple Lake
River Lakes
Rochester John Marshall
Shakopee
St. Paul Senators
Stillwater
Worthington

What is this list supposed to be comprised of??? Red and Black??

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Wed May 30, 2007 1:17 pm

nickel slots wrote:
Let's take a look at the list, shall we?

Alexandria
Cenntenial
Eden Prarie
Elk River
Monticello/Annandale/Maple Lake
River Lakes
Rochester John Marshall
Shakopee
St. Paul Senators
Stillwater
Worthington
What is this list supposed to be comprised of??? Red and Black??

Yeah, I found it on Wikipedia. Is it way off?

flatontheice · Post by **flatontheice** » Wed May 30, 2007 1:46 pm

The Exiled One wrote:
nickel slots wrote:
Let's take a look at the list, shall we?

Alexandria
Cenntenial
Eden Prarie
Elk River
Monticello/Annandale/Maple Lake
River Lakes
Rochester John Marshall
Shakopee
St. Paul Senators
Stillwater
Worthington
What is this list supposed to be comprised of??? Red and Black??
Yeah, I found it on Wikipedia. Is it way off?

That would make sense since Phil Housley (His High School Coach) has so much pull with USA hockey.

nickel slots · Post by **nickel slots** » Wed May 30, 2007 1:47 pm

I don't think it's too far off, if that's what it's representing. My original question to Iceburg was if he was referring to red and black or if it could be a different variation of red and black (i.e. Cardinal Red).

The Exiled One · Post by **The Exiled One** » Wed May 30, 2007 2:00 pm

nickel slots wrote:I don't think it's too far off, if that's what it's representing. My original question to Iceburg was if he was referring to red and black or if it could be a different variation of red and black (i.e. Cardinal Red).

Gotcha. That list represents every variation of "Red" and Black I could find.

Code: Select all

Academy of Holy Angels Stars - Royal, Vegas Gold
Albert Lea Tigers - Cherry and Blue  
Alexandria Cardinals - Red and Black  
Andover Huskies - Black & Gold  
Anoka Tornadoes - Maroon and White 
Apple Valley Eagles - Brown, Gold & White 
Austin Packers - Red & White  
Bagley/Fosston Flyers - Maroon & Gold  
Becker/Big Lake/Milaca Bulldogs - Blue & White  
Bemidji Lumberjacks - Navy, Blue and White  
Benilde-St. Margaret's Red Knights - Red and White
Blaine Bengals - Navy, Columbia Blue, & White 
Blake Bears - Royal, Kelly, White  
Bloomington Jefferson Jaguars - Columbia Blue, Silver
Bloomington Kennedy Eagles - Navy Blue, Gold 
Brainerd Warriors - Blue and White  
Breck Mustangs - Blue and Gold 
Buffalo Bison - Purple and White  
Burnsville Blaze - Black and Gold
Cambridge-Isanti Bluejackets - Royal Blue & White  
Centennial Cougars - Scarlet and White (often Black too) 
Champlin Park Rebels - Navy, Silver, White  
Chaska Hawks - Purple and Gold  
Chisago Lakes Wildcats - Forest Green, Gold, Black  
Chisholm/Cook Bluestreaks - Red & Blue  
Cloquet/Esko/Carlton Lumberjacks - Purple & White  
Coon Rapids Cardinals - Red and White  
Cretin-Derham Hall Raiders - Purple and Gold 
Crookston Pirates - Navy & Gold  
Crosby-Ironton/Aitkin Rangers - Maroon & White  
Delano/Rockford/Watertown-Mayer Tigers - Orange & Black  
Detroit Lakes Lakers - Red & White  
Dodge County Wildcats   
Duluth Central Trojans - Red and White  
Duluth Denfeld Hunters - Maroon and Gold  
Duluth East Greyhounds - Red and Grey  
Duluth Marshall Hilltoppers - Black and Gold  
Eagan Wildcats - Royal, Kelly, Silver, White  
East Grand Forks Green Wave - Green, White and Red  
Eastview Lightning - Black, Blue, White, Silver  
Eden Prairie Eagles - Scarlet and Black  
Edina Hornets - Green and White
Elk River Elks - Red, White, Black
Ely Timberwolves - Red and White  
Eveleth-Gilbert/Mesabi East Golden Bears - Gold & Black
Fairmont Cardinals - Cardinal and White  
Faribault Falcons - Green and White  
Farmington Tigers - Orange and Black  
Fergus Falls Otters - Maroon and Gold  
Forest Lake Rangers - Maroon and Gold  
Grand Rapids Thunderhawks - Orange and Black 
Greenway Raiders - Kelly Green & White 
Hastings Radiers - Royal Blue, Gold  
Henry Sibley Warriors - Red and Gold  
Hermantown Hawks - Blue and Gold 
Hibbing Bluejackets - Navy Blue and White 
Hill-Murray Pioneers - Green, White, Black 
Holy Family Catholic/Waconia Fire - Forest Green & White  
Hopkins Royals - Royal Blue & Silver  
Hutchinson Tigers - Black and Yellow  
International Falls Broncos - Purple and Gold
Irondale Knights - Maroon and Gold  
Kittson Central Wolfpack - Orange, Gold, Black& White  
La Crescent Lancers - Kelly Green and White  
Lake of The Woods Bears - Maroon and Gold  
Lakeville North Panthers - Red & White  
Lakeville South Cougars - Cardinal Red/M. Gold  
LeSueur-Henderson/St. Peter
Litchfield/Dassel-Cokato Dragons - Green, White & Black  
Little Falls Flyers - Purple and White  
Luverne/Pipestone Area Cardinals - Red and White  
Mahtomedi Zephyrs - Navy and Gold  
Mankato East Cougars - Black and Gold  
Mankato West Scarlets - Red and White  
Maple Grove Crimson - Crimson and Gold  
Marshall Tigers - Orange and Black  
Minneapolis South Tigers - Black and Orange  
Minneapolis Southwest Lakers - Purple & White 
Minneapolis Washburn Millers - Blue and Orange  
Minnehaha Academy Redhawks - Red and White  
Minnetonka Skippers - Royal Blue and White  
Monticello/Annandale/Maple Lake Stars - Red  
Moorhead Spuds - Orange and Black  
Moose Lake Area Rebels - Red, Blue, Gray  
Mora/Hinckley-Finlayson Mustangs - Royal Blue, White  
Morris/Benson Area Storm   
Mound-Westonka White Hawks - Red and White  
Mounds View Mustangs - Green and White
New Prague/Montgomery-Lonsdale - Maroon and Black  
New Ulm Eagles - Purple and White  
North Branch Vikings   
North St. Paul Polars   
Northfield Raiders - Maroon and Gold  
Orono Spartans - Navy/Scarlet  
Osseo Orioles - Orange and Black  
Owatonna Huskies - Royal Blue and Silver  
Park Center Pirates - Green and Gold  
Park-Cottage Grove Wolfpack - Forest Green & White  
Park Rapids Panthers - Orange and Black  
Pequot Lakes Patriots - Red, White and Blue  
Pine City/Rush City Dragons - Kelly Green & White  
Princeton Tigers - Black, Orange, White  
Proctor Rails - Green & White  
Providence Academy Lions - Navy and Old Gold  
Red Lake Falls Eagles - Purple and Gold  
Red Wing Wingers - Purple and White
Richfield Spartans - Cardinal and White  
River Lakes Stars - Red, White, Black  
Robbinsdale Armstrong Falcons - Red, White & Blue  
Robbinsdale Cooper Hawks - Orange and Blue  
Rochester Century Panthers - Navy and Silver  
Rochester John Marshall Rockets - Red and Black
Rochester Lourdes Eagles - Purple and Gold  
Rochester Mayo Spartans - Green and Gold  
Rogers/Zimmerman Royals   
Roseau Rams - Green and White
Rosemount Irish - Navy & Gold  
Roseville Raiders - Black and Silver  
Sartell-St. Stephen   
Sauk Rapids-Rice Storm   
Shakopee Sabers - Red, White, Black  
Silver Bay Mariners - Blue & White  
Simley Spartans - Columbia Blue, Scarlet & White  
Sleepy Eye Indians - Orange and Black  
South St. Paul Packers - Maroon and White  
Spring Lake Park Panthers - Royal, Scarlet, White  
St. Bernard's/St. Agnes Bulldogs - Royal Blue, Gold  
St. Cloud Apollo Eagles - Red, White and Blue  
St. Cloud Cathedral Crusaders - Royal Blue and Gold  
St. Cloud Tech Tigers - Orange and Black  
St. Francis Fighting Saints - Navy Blue and White  
St. Louis Park Orioles - range, White, Black  
St. Michael-Albertville Knights - Blue and Gold  
St. Paul Academy Spartans - Vegas Gold and Navy  
St. Paul Senators - Red and Black  
St. Paul Como Park Cougars - Black and Yellow  
St. Paul Johnson Governors - Maroon and White
St. Thomas Academy Cadets - Royal Blue, White
Stillwater Ponies - Red and Black  
Tartan Titans - Air Force Blue, Silver  
Thief River Falls Prowlers - Royal Blue & Gold
Totino-Grace Eagles - Blue & Gold
Two Harbors Agates - Maroon &White  
Virginia/Mountain Iron-Buhl Blue Devils - Royal Blue & White  
Wadena-Deer Creek Wolverines - Royal Blue & Gold  
Warroad Warriors - Black and Yellow 
Waseca Bluejays - Blue and Gold  
Wayzata Trojans - Royal Blue and Gold  
White Bear Lake Bears - Orange, White, Black  
Willmar Cardinals - Cardinal and White  
Windom Eagles - Blue and Gold  
Winona Winhawks - Black and Orange  
Woodbury Royals - Royal Blue and White  
Worthington Trojans - Black and Red

I guess I could have included New Prague's Tyler Lapic, but I really don't think Iceburg meant maroon and black.

breakout · Post by **breakout** » Wed May 30, 2007 9:14 pm

The Exiled One is in touch. Great Homework!

breakout · Post by **breakout** » Wed May 30, 2007 9:20 pm

My opinion, if it is Matt Johnson it would be a good choice. He doesn't get much ink in this forum (doesen't matter). He is a hard working quality player. Mr. Housley could help his chances. But, Matt will have earned what he might get.

FYI, many of the buzz names are just that.

wingsrule · Post by **wingsrule** » Wed May 30, 2007 10:44 pm

I agree, Matt Johnson (Stillwater) would definitely be a good pick for the NTDP but I believe Blake Thompson (Eden Prairie) is that "diamond in the rough" that has the potential to develop into a very consistent, solid player and may be the ideal playter for our US "Development" Program. Include Matt Johnson along with Nick Mattson (Chaska) and Blake Thompsom, a big, smart and mobile defenseman with the other 17's selected from around the country and it would be a good mix of talent, skill, solid goaltending and toughness that a team needs to succeed at any level.

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