Hockey9999 wrote:Anders Lee was late tonight for hockey. That's because he was at 7 on 7 football playing qb for EDINA. He then proceeded back to braemar where he belongs... on a nice big rink... AA.... real fans.... his old friends... girls... for hockey with EDINA. Everyone from St. Thomas, believe it. Anders is back at Edina, and theres no turning back. Unless of course he just feels like signing up for Edina's summer hockey program and 7 on 7 football team for fun, and yes then still playing for St. Thomas. I doubt it. Edina is going to be unstoppable. 8 Legitimate 1st line forwards. WOW. great defense and goaltending everyone watch out for this team. You guys can deny it all you want, but the cake eaters are giong to dominate next year, and Anders Lee is giong to be a part of it.
If true, you will probably see Lee centering Leer and someone to be named on the 2nd line.
PP Gleason, Budish, Everson, Leer and probably Baker. Lee on the bench. Let's see how the egos of Edina handle it.
Hockey9999 wrote:Anders Lee was late tonight for hockey. That's because he was at 7 on 7 football playing qb for EDINA. He then proceeded back to braemar where he belongs... on a nice big rink... AA.... real fans.... his old friends... girls... for hockey with EDINA. Everyone from St. Thomas, believe it. Anders is back at Edina, and theres no turning back. Unless of course he just feels like signing up for Edina's summer hockey program and 7 on 7 football team for fun, and yes then still playing for St. Thomas. I doubt it. Edina is going to be unstoppable. 8 Legitimate 1st line forwards. WOW. great defense and goaltending everyone watch out for this team. You guys can deny it all you want, but the cake eaters are giong to dominate next year, and Anders Lee is giong to be a part of it.
If true, you will probably see Lee centering Leer and someone to be named on the 2nd line.
PP Gleason, Budish, Everson, Leer and probably Baker. Lee on the bench. Let's see how the egos of Edina handle it.
Breakdown:
Are you behind the bench this year with Curt ? Sounds like your ego has an issue with this.........
Hockey9999 wrote:Anders Lee was late tonight for hockey. That's because he was at 7 on 7 football playing qb for EDINA. He then proceeded back to braemar where he belongs... on a nice big rink... AA.... real fans.... his old friends... girls... for hockey with EDINA. Everyone from St. Thomas, believe it. Anders is back at Edina, and theres no turning back. Unless of course he just feels like signing up for Edina's summer hockey program and 7 on 7 football team for fun, and yes then still playing for St. Thomas. I doubt it. Edina is going to be unstoppable. 8 Legitimate 1st line forwards. WOW. great defense and goaltending everyone watch out for this team. You guys can deny it all you want, but the cake eaters are giong to dominate next year, and Anders Lee is giong to be a part of it.
If true, you will probably see Lee centering Leer and someone to be named on the 2nd line.
PP Gleason, Budish, Everson, Leer and probably Baker. Lee on the bench. Let's see how the egos of Edina handle it.
Breakdown:
Are you behind the bench this year with Curt ? Sounds like your ego has an issue with this.........
You're a horrible read. I picked up a crystal ball.
If Anders does indeed transfer, which it looks like he is, then I say good luck to him at Edina. He will have a hell of a team to play on, and I have no doubt that he will contribute to an already stacked team. I look forward to these guys playing next year and know that I'll support the Hornets because Anders is a great kid and athlete.
He also walks into a position in football and baseball where he could do very well, and if his interests differ now then they did 3 years ago, then cest la vie. I have no issue with him transferring, and honestly I applaud him if he knows he will be better off at Edina, in the overall, not just sports, sense. Why stay somewhere you are unhappy?
The issue STA now faces is many "what ifs". What if they had opted up last time and were going to be playing AA hockey this year? Would Anders still leave? And also where does this put their team next year? Rumors abound regarding Crandall, Larson, and now Lee, put STA down many more players than were expected. How the Vanellis respond next season will be a major telling factor on their overall coaching ability, which I personally think is exceptional.
this past year I handled going from being the number 1 team in state to the A 3rd place team because of a player leaving, I really could care less if Anders leaves if it's really better for him. I'm just saying if you're a player that will probably go to state in football, have a chance of doing well again, probably get another conference championship, do really well in hockey, dominate the conference, probably be the top play in the conference/section/state, play on a top baseball team and have a good chance of being a top state/conference/section team again, why would you give that up to play on a very above average AA hockey team that will have a real challenge of getting to state when you'll be on a bad football team and a bad baseball team? I was in high school and college at one point. I understand how everyone has their dominant sport, but at that age they all matter. Just asking why people would give that stuff up, that's all. It has nothing to do with being from where I went to school or anything. He's moving to a different class and we'll still have a good team, why would I care?
I heard he is already practicing with Hornets in their summer deal. How good is Edina going to be with this kid? This new section Edina, Holy Angels and Burnsville are in is going to be sick.
My point exactly. If her were transferring out of a section with no competition to another one, that'd be fine, but why to one where he's always guaranteed to go to state to one where it will be a coin toss? That's all.
My point exactly. If her were transferring out of a section with no competition to another one, that'd be fine, but why to one where he's always guaranteed to go to state to one where it will be a coin toss? That's all."
Why? Because of the competition. Single A at St. Thomas simply does not provide AA level competition at Edina. Although there are some very high level A teams, the overall competition level day in and day out at AA is much higher, therefore every game is tougher offering more development. And, Edina has a much better shot at State than you might think. Holy Angels is definately a down team this year and has an especially weak goalie, and Burnville lost their goalie (the only reason they got to state), so it is basically Hendrickson and Barnes as their whole team. Looking at Edina's roster of forwards, Leer, Gaarder, Gaarder, Budish, Everson, Taft, Lee, Friedman.... oh boy put it this way, edina is going to put up some points. Lee had his papers in before March 30, he will not have to sit out he lives a minute from the high school. Another thing, A state tournament is a joke compared to AA. Lee will start at QB, and be likely varsity player for baseball at Edina. The switch makes sense to me. [/quote]
I wouldn't say A is a "joke" compared to AA. The top 4 teams in A could compete very favorably with the top 4 in AA, its just, as you said, AA generally has more depth.
A and AA is a tiered system essentially, they should just eliminate opt ups for hockey, put teams in sections according to their actual enrollment, and have a 16 team state tournament. So 1A would stay intact, but the winner would play 1AA first round, 2A plays 2AA etc. That would make the Minnesota High School Hockey Tournament the best high school tourney in the country, no watered down championships, no what if a team had played AA, just winner take all.
My point exactly. If her were transferring out of a section with no competition to another one, that'd be fine, but why to one where he's always guaranteed to go to state to one where it will be a coin toss? That's all."
Why? Because of the competition. Single A at St. Thomas simply does not provide AA level competition at Edina. Although there are some very high level A teams, the overall competition level day in and day out at AA is much higher, therefore every game is tougher offering more development. And, Edina has a much better shot at State than you might think. Holy Angels is definately a down team this year and has an especially weak goalie, and Burnville lost their goalie (the only reason they got to state), so it is basically Hendrickson and Barnes as their whole team. Looking at Edina's roster of forwards, Leer, Gaarder, Gaarder, Budish, Everson, Taft, Lee, Friedman.... oh boy put it this way, edina is going to put up some points. Lee had his papers in before March 30, he will not have to sit out he lives a minute from the high school. Another thing, A state tournament is a joke compared to AA. Lee will start at QB, and be likely varsity player for baseball at Edina. The switch makes sense to me.
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Exactly. But HShockeywatcher doesnt understand that. He thinks that competiting in a year end tournament in some politically created competitive class is "going to state".
Anyway, its a good lesson for all schools. When they leave where they are to come to you for a "better opportunity" they are gonna leave you when the next "better opportunity" comes along.
this past year I handled going from being the number 1 team in state to the A 3rd place team because of a player leaving, I really could care less if Anders leaves if it's really better for him. I'm just saying if you're a player that will probably go to state in football, have a chance of doing well again, probably get another conference championship, do really well in hockey, dominate the conference, probably be the top play in the conference/section/state, play on a top baseball team and have a good chance of being a top state/conference/section team again, why would you give that up to play on a very above average AA hockey team that will have a real challenge of getting to state when you'll be on a bad football team and a bad baseball team? I was in high school and college at one point. I understand how everyone has their dominant sport, but at that age they all matter. Just asking why people would give that stuff up, that's all. It has nothing to do with being from where I went to school or anything. He's moving to a different class and we'll still have a good team, why would I care?
Hey HS, we know you dont care. But some people do aspire to being somethng other than a big fish in a little pond.
HShockeywatcher wrote:Any one know: Why would you transfer from playing on 3 state level teams to 1 state level team that's going to have a hell of a time making it to state?
Personally, I know I wouldn't.
Anders is choosing a higher level of development over a possible "little" state trophy. Toss in girls and its a no-brainer.
And HS, we know you wouldn't make the same choice for either of those reasons.
Funny how people say because they don't play a double AA schedule. In the Schwanns Cup STA was dominating and up 3-1 until the end of third and lost in OT on a fluke goal. Yes a win is a win and they lost, but EDINA did not walk allover STA by any means. STA also played AA powers of Burnsville and won easily in Schwanns, Lost to Brainerd again after beign up by 2 and losing late in third. Tied Tonka, Split with Hill and tied for the conference championship with Hill, Lost to Cretin.
Played Marshall to a tie and lost in OT in stat semis. Marshall is another team that could easily play AA and compete as STA easily does.
Also Lee was STA 3rd leading scorer third in goals and 4thy in assists. Third year varsity player on a team with such an easy schedule and being class A should have dominated. It is something he didn't do. 3 freshmen had more points in state than Anders.
Don't get me wrong from what I here and read he greatly underachieved and his father that after coming out from Jordan Schroeders shadow he would be the star and he wasn't. I think he wants him a starting qb also and their back up from last year is rumored to have that locked up. So I am not so sure this is Anders decision. Rumor has it mom. is furious
Wish Anders the best of luck. Sounds like Isaacson and Gavin are more than capable of having better sophomore seasons next year.
behonestbenice wrote:Funny how people say because they don't play a double AA schedule. In the Schwanns Cup STA was dominating and up 3-1 until the end of third and lost in OT on a fluke goal. Yes a win is a win and they lost, but EDINA did not walk allover STA by any means. STA also played AA powers of Burnsville and won easily in Schwanns, Lost to Brainerd again after beign up by 2 and losing late in third. Tied Tonka, Split with Hill and tied for the conference championship with Hill, Lost to Cretin.
Played Marshall to a tie and lost in OT in stat semis. Marshall is another team that could easily play AA and compete as STA easily does.
Also Lee was STA 3rd leading scorer third in goals and 4thy in assists. Third year varsity player on a team with such an easy schedule and being class A should have dominated. It is something he didn't do. 3 freshmen had more points in state than Anders.
Don't get me wrong from what I here and read he greatly underachieved and his father that after coming out from Jordan Schroeders shadow he would be the star and he wasn't. I think he wants him a starting qb also and their back up from last year is rumored to have that locked up. So I am not so sure this is Anders decision. Rumor has it mom. is furious
Wish Anders the best of luck. Sounds like Isaacson and Gavin are more than capable of having better sophomore seasons next year.
Oooh Mr. Walters.... Your tag is Behonestbenice.......?
Please don't be so bitter and shortsighted. Your son will be just fine, except this year he may have to work harder since he won't be playing second line. Take your shots but get your facts straight. Anders was the leading goal scorer for the team and did so on first line and shared team MVP honors with Crandall. STA is a fantastic school, just try not to dumb it down with comments like this. Let it go and focus on something other than hockey.
[quote="behonestbenice"]Funny how people say because they don't play a double AA schedule. In the Schwanns Cup STA was dominating and up 3-1 until the end of third and lost in OT on a fluke goal. Yes a win is a win and they lost, but EDINA did not walk allover STA by any means. STA also played AA powers of Burnsville and won easily in Schwanns, Lost to Brainerd again after beign up by 2 and losing late in third. Tied Tonka, Split with Hill and tied for the conference championship with Hill, Lost to Cretin.
Played Marshall to a tie and lost in OT in stat semis. Marshall is another team that could easily play AA and compete as STA easily does. End qoute.
Why dont you play in AA then?
Try beatng a AA school to get to the state tournament instead of Red Wing. Try getting to the AA tournamnet and winning. CDH, Hill, AHA, BSM, Roseau, Grand Rapids etc. all do it and have won. Why cant STA?
IF STA and Marshall could all play AA, why in the heck dont they?
good for anders if he leaves... STA is better at football, the only reason he's leaving is because he wants the Starting QB position, which he would only be back up at STA.. whatever i say go for it man.. good luckk
Hockey9999 wrote:Anders Lee was late tonight for hockey. That's because he was at 7 on 7 football playing qb for EDINA. He then proceeded back to braemar where he belongs... on a nice big rink... AA.... real fans.... his old friends... girls... for hockey with EDINA. Everyone from St. Thomas, believe it. Anders is back at Edina, and theres no turning back. Unless of course he just feels like signing up for Edina's summer hockey program and 7 on 7 football team for fun, and yes then still playing for St. Thomas. I doubt it. Edina is going to be unstoppable. 8 Legitimate 1st line forwards. WOW. great defense and goaltending everyone watch out for this team. You guys can deny it all you want, but the cake eaters are giong to dominate next year, and Anders Lee is giong to be a part of it.
If true, you will probably see Lee centering Leer and someone to be named on the 2nd line.
PP Gleason, Budish, Everson, Leer and probably Baker. Lee on the bench. Let's see how the egos of Edina handle it.
Breakdown:
Are you behind the bench this year with Curt ? Sounds like your ego has an issue with this.........
oedinaourhome,
You will be excited to know that I figured out Edina's #2 line for you and Curt.
I think you will like this.
Anders centering Leer and Friedman. Ink it, it's a done deal.............very solid line.
Wow, the A and AA debate is getting really old guys. It's not even a debate. Yes, we know that the bigger trophy is much more respected, hands down. We also know that there have been many years in many different sports where the winner of a lower class can walk all over the winner of a bigger class. In hockey, more teams opt up than should which makes it a tier system. STA plays in the class the MSHSL gives them. If you have beef with where they play tell the MSHSL to change where they are put, that's where they play for all their sports, not just hockey. Personally, I could care less where they play.
It would be so much better if teams weren't allowed to opt up, then both tourneys would be more respectable and no one would be whining anymore.
I'm sure many will reply to me and say I'm a moron or whatnot, but my opinions have been posted on here by others in the past too. Have a good day.
Wow, this is a huge move I think. The Hornets were definatly a contender before, but Anders gets them that much closer. With Reber graduated, he helps fill that void. The team can only get better, if the egos stay in check, which was talked about before and I agree with that. Though I don't think it will be a problem, what do I know? It very well could be. So he might be centering Leer and Friedman? Who is this Friedman? Did he play JV last year, cause I looked at the team roster and didn't see him. Again, great pick up for the Hornets. Should be fun wactching 2AA this year.
