Chaska

cha-town hockey · Post by **cha-town hockey** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:48 am

with the new coaches and a lot of young guys and transfers in and out...how are they gonna look?

flatontheice · Post by **flatontheice** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:20 am

cha-town hockey wrote:with the new coaches and a lot of young guys and transfers in and out...how are they gonna look?

last or second to last in the Lake conference.

breakout · Post by **breakout** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:12 am

Losing Nick Mattson hurts them. Tough to replace a talent like that. Hopefully, Chaska will start bringing some stability to their program with the new regime.

tomASS · Post by **tomASS** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:29 am

Senior Goaltending leadership and ability at both starting and back-up will allow Chaska to be competitive and in most games.

They will miss NM ability to move and rush the puck. Any team would.

It will be an attitude/effort year blended with the talent/ability they have that will determine how they do. Flatontheice could be right or they might be mid-pack with the right circumstances

breakout the - new regime will be great but regardless, stability will only last two years with the new Chanhassen HS coming on line. Talent will be divided up.

breakout · Post by **breakout** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:53 am

tomASS wrote:Senior Goaltending leadership and ability at both starting and back-up will allow Chaska to be competitive and in most games.

They will miss NM ability to move and rush the puck. Any team would.

It will be an attitude/effort year blended with the talent/ability they have that will determine how they do. Flatontheice could be right or they might be mid-pack with the right circumstances

breakout the - new regime will be great but regardless, stability will only last two years with the new Chanhassen HS coming on line. Talent will be divided up.

Two schools and competing with Holy Family and other privates?

Nice players coming out of Chaska. Hope they will find ways for them to stay.

Hockeyguy_27 · Post by **Hockeyguy_27** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:52 pm

Chaska will be hurting big time. You can't strip the best players out of their successful youth program and set the bar too high. Look at who they've lost in addition to Mattson.

GAC02 · Post by **GAC02** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:06 pm

I agree with hockey guy 27, look at the players chaska has lost over the years from the youth programs that have been successful. losing players like the reilly boys, mattson, jack barnes to blake even going all the way back to mueller going to jefferson then to breck is bound to hurt a program. as far as senior goaltending neither one has much varsity experiance, so good luck there. hopefully the new coaching staff can get the players motivated so they get the most with what they have. good luck steve'o and jeese, hope you have a good year.

USAHOCKEY4LIFE · Post by **USAHOCKEY4LIFE** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:58 pm

ya i agree...goaltending will be the issue. niether has played more than a few varsity games and they both have big shoes to fill cause kruser was there since his freshmen year

tomASS · Post by **tomASS** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:34 pm

USAHOCKEY4LIFE wrote:ya i agree...goaltending will be the issue. niether has played more than a few varsity games and they both have big shoes to fill cause kruser was there since his freshmen year

The starter this year, I believe, is a superior goalie in most facets of the game. Especially the mental one. No drop off this year at that position. I believe an improvement.

USAHOCKEY4LIFE · Post by **USAHOCKEY4LIFE** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:15 pm

i believe that you are the starter for chaska by the way you are talking.....i have only seen you play in one game and that is because the kruser kid has played almost every game since his sophomore season and he is now playing for a very well known school as far as school standards go...i hear the team is good too but i dont follow d-3 very much but nontheless the goaltending is not superior because they are lacking the leadership and veteran status of kruser but we'll see i guess....tough section too

Post by **east hockey** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:35 pm

USAHOCKEY4LIFE wrote:i believe that you are the starter for chaska by the way you are talking.....i have only seen you play in one game and that is because the kruser kid has played almost every game since his sophomore season and he is now playing for a very well known school as far as school standards go...i hear the team is good too but i dont follow d-3 very much but nontheless the goaltending is not superior because they are lacking the leadership and veteran status of kruser but we'll see i guess....tough section too

What is your relationship to Kruser?

Lee

USAHOCKEY4LIFE · Post by **USAHOCKEY4LIFE** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:28 am

i have played against him and with him throughout our hockey careers...playing against him can be a teams biggest fear if he is playing to his level....while playing with him is a big confidence boost knowing he is behind you....and we are now rivals again in D-3 although not in the same conferences

Post by **east hockey** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:08 am

USAHOCKEY4LIFE wrote:i have played against him and with him throughout our hockey careers...playing against him can be a teams biggest fear if he is playing to his level....while playing with him is a big confidence boost knowing he is behind you....and we are now rivals again in D-3 although not in the same conferences

Check your email. Something is obviously fishy here.

Lee

tomASS · Post by **tomASS** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:06 am

USAHOCKEY4LIFE wrote:i believe that you are the starter for chaska by the way you are talking.....i have only seen you play in one game and that is because the kruser kid has played almost every game since his sophomore season and he is now playing for a very well known school as far as school standards go...i hear the team is good too but i dont follow d-3 very much but nontheless the goaltending is not superior because they are lacking the leadership and veteran status of kruser but we'll see i guess....tough section too

Nope a casual Chaska hockey observer that have watched both them over the course of the past few years.

Never said "Kruser" kid was not a good goalie, just stated that I don't believe the goaltending position is a weak link at all this year and believe it is a position that will influence the results more than at any time before in the last 3-4 years

rbkhockey · Post by **rbkhockey** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:15 am

tomass chaska is not going to be good. face the facts. i know your from chaska and want to have the positive attitude toward your team but to be honest they will only have a few returners and even though the new coach seems good it is his first year.

tomASS · Post by **tomASS** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:12 pm

rbkhockey wrote:tomass chaska is not going to be good. face the facts. i know your from chaska and want to have the positive attitude toward your team but to be honest they will only have a few returners and even though the new coach seems good it is his first year.

Never said that they would be - saying that a strength will be between the posts. It will be a very challenging year for the team.

breakout · Post by **breakout** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:57 pm

GAC02 wrote:I agree with hockey guy 27, look at the players chaska has lost over the years from the youth programs that have been successful. losing players like the reilly boys, mattson, jack barnes to blake even going all the way back to mueller going to jefferson then to breck is bound to hurt a program. as far as senior goaltending neither one has much varsity experiance, so good luck there. hopefully the new coaching staff can get the players motivated so they get the most with what they have. good luck steve'o and jeese, hope you have a good year.

You can add Doerring & Brunette to your list. Solid players currently going to Blake.

GAC02 · Post by **GAC02** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:27 pm

thanks breakout for the info, been to many defections over the years to the privates maybe would have had some good squads if the players would have stayed. as far as the goalie situation past and present, i am well familiar with it , my son played with them since squirts and now is at a d3 miac school. krueser will be at MSOE in milwaukee so wishing him the best and wishing the best for this years group of players.

tomASS · Post by **tomASS** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 1:27 pm

breakout wrote:
GAC02 wrote:I agree with hockey guy 27, look at the players chaska has lost over the years from the youth programs that have been successful. losing players like the reilly boys, mattson, jack barnes to blake even going all the way back to mueller going to jefferson then to breck is bound to hurt a program. as far as senior goaltending neither one has much varsity experiance, so good luck there. hopefully the new coaching staff can get the players motivated so they get the most with what they have. good luck steve'o and jeese, hope you have a good year.

You can add Doerring & Brunette to your list. Solid players currently going to Blake.

I don't know if you can call them defections - The only ones that were not slated for private school was Mattson and you can't fault a kid for leaving for that opportunity. Turak is back and shouldn't have been swayed in the first place. The others all had private school labels from very early on. Most knew they would not be there for Chaska HS.

flatontheice · Post by **flatontheice** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 11:24 pm

tomASS wrote:
breakout wrote:
GAC02 wrote:I agree with hockey guy 27, look at the players chaska has lost over the years from the youth programs that have been successful. losing players like the reilly boys, mattson, jack barnes to blake even going all the way back to mueller going to jefferson then to breck is bound to hurt a program. as far as senior goaltending neither one has much varsity experiance, so good luck there. hopefully the new coaching staff can get the players motivated so they get the most with what they have. good luck steve'o and jeese, hope you have a good year.

You can add Doerring & Brunette to your list. Solid players currently going to Blake.
I don't know if you can call them defections - The only ones that were not slated for private school was Mattson and you can't fault a kid for leaving for that opportunity. Turak is back and shouldn't have been swayed in the first place. The others all had private school labels from very early on. Most knew they would not be there for Chaska HS.

Does Turak have to sit out this year?

TomAss, you contradict yourself here. You "can't blame a kid" for leaving his/her home school for the love of hockey and a crappy high school education somewhere in Michigan? But if you leave for what you hope is a better education and equal hockey somewhere in Minnesota it is somehow worse? Not sure what you meant there. I bet the Boogyman would argue your point here too?

tomASS · Post by **tomASS** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:10 pm

flatontheice wrote:
Does Turak have to sit out this year?

TomAss, you contradict yourself here. You "can't blame a kid" for leaving his/her home school for the love of hockey and a crappy high school education somewhere in Michigan? But if you leave for what you hope is a better education and equal hockey somewhere in Minnesota it is somehow worse? Not sure what you meant there. I bet the Boogyman would argue your point here too?

believe Turak is pleading financial hardship and the fact he is going back to his original home district through the MSHSL review process.
That is a guess and not a fact that I am aware of.

Can you show me where I said, "But if you leave for what you hope is a better education and equal hockey somewhere in Minnesota it is somehow worse" ???

The kids being mentioned here, going to private schools, have always gone to private schools so they haven't left for hockey but rather have always been at a private school for the education it offers.

As far as Mattson - The program he his going to is a national program where he was selected after tryouts with other elite players by invitation only where he can develop his hockey skills.

I'm sure Boogey would argue but we are talking the difference between unproven 7-9 yr. old mites versus a proven and talented 15 year old who can, on his own, determine what his priorities are and has earned the chance to be there.

flatontheice · Post by **flatontheice** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 5:00 pm

tomASS wrote:
flatontheice wrote:
Does Turak have to sit out this year?

TomAss, you contradict yourself here. You "can't blame a kid" for leaving his/her home school for the love of hockey and a crappy high school education somewhere in Michigan? But if you leave for what you hope is a better education and equal hockey somewhere in Minnesota it is somehow worse? Not sure what you meant there. I bet the Boogyman would argue your point here too?
believe Turak is pleading financial hardship and the fact he is going back to his original home district through the MSHSL review process.
That is a guess and not a fact that I am aware of.

Can you show me where I said, "But if you leave for what you hope is a better education and equal hockey somewhere in Minnesota it is somehow worse" ???

The kids being mentioned here, going to private schools, have always gone to private schools so they haven't left for hockey but rather have always been at a private school for the education it offers.

As far as Mattson - The program he his going to is a national program where he was selected after tryouts with other elite players by invitation only where he can develop his hockey skills.

I'm sure Boogey would argue but we are talking the difference between unproven 7-9 yr. old mites versus a proven and talented 15 year old who can, on his own, determine what his priorities are and has earned the chance to be there.

Gotcha.

gopherhockey33 · Post by **gopherhockey33** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:08 pm

tomass soem pretty bad news for you, turaks appeal has been denied and will be sitting out half the year! so he'll be on JV for about 13 games or so

GAC02 · Post by **GAC02** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:15 pm

wow that is some bad news, could he return to blake and be eligable to play instead of sitting out half the season.

Rbkhockey21 · Post by **Rbkhockey21** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 7:42 pm

chaska will get swamped in the lake confrence by teams like rosemount, eastview and burnsville...they cant compete with the depths of these teams

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