Lea Jondal the goalie who has transferred to Cretin in the spring might be the biggest and best sr goalie in the metro next winter - and there are a lot of talented sr goalies. I have watched her play about 7 spring U19 games and in CODP goalie drills. She is big, plays bigger, very good skater and plays an assertive challenging style and is very active in playing and moving the puck more seen in boys HS hockey. Paired with srs Kelly Wild and Brittney Carlson Cretin will be tough to score on. Cretin also has two good jr goalies who split time as sophmores.
Hill Murray may have 3 new incoming sophmore transfers - two from Cretin (Forward & a D) and a Totino transfer (top forward) noboby knows until opening day but they are in the summer program.
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the depth of talent there, and some of it quite young, plus the potential for more coming up from youth, etc. - I just heard a bit more about all of this recently and hadn't realized it myself.Thunderbird77 wrote:GHS-
Care to elaborate what brings you to this conclusion?
Also - The rumors are flying (this is in general and not directly re: Hopkins) about transfers, etc. - some even pre-HS age now that aren't impacted by transfer rules, etc. it appears - although I'm not certain. I don't know for sure, but I think there are a select few ways to use even the new rules to transfer without penalty:
1) Entering 9th grade
2) Change of Residence
3) Make a strong case to the MSHSL via Fair Hearing Procedure
What we thought might keep more kids at their home HS could backfire... How? Some kids won't give their home HS a shot now first as a result of the new rules. But, I didn't either, so...
One other interesting question I was asked recently was about a 7th to 8th grade transfer under the new rules. I don't know if the player would sit a year as entering 9th you're OK but from 7th-to-8th???
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/news/NewTran ... w.doc?mj=9
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I may have started this to some degree, so let me clairify a bit as to set the record straight.cluelessinminnesota wrote:Can anyone inform me who the Hopkins open enrollment players are?
And does anyone know if its accurate that Hopkins recently hired the former Eden Prairie asst coach?
My understanding from very good sources is that:
1) Hopkins has NOT officially gained anyone via OE/transfer (in fact may have lost one this way?).
2) No former EP coaches have been hired at Hopkins at this time.
My earlier posts may have said/hinted otherwise, but now that I have the facts I wanted to present them to set things straight as of now.
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BY THE WAY - I understand now that OE/Transfers pre-9th grade are all OK. So, you could transfer entering 7th, entering 8th, entering 9th and not have a problem I believe. Transfer after 9th and you may have to sit a year if you don't meet one of a few provisions allowing no penalty under these circumstances...ghshockeyfan wrote:the depth of talent there, and some of it quite young, plus the potential for more coming up from youth, etc. - I just heard a bit more about all of this recently and hadn't realized it myself.Thunderbird77 wrote:GHS-
Care to elaborate what brings you to this conclusion?
Also - The rumors are flying (this is in general and not directly re: Hopkins) about transfers, etc. - some even pre-HS age now that aren't impacted by transfer rules, etc. it appears - although I'm not certain. I don't know for sure, but I think there are a select few ways to use even the new rules to transfer without penalty:
1) Entering 9th grade
2) Change of Residence
3) Make a strong case to the MSHSL via Fair Hearing Procedure
What we thought might keep more kids at their home HS could backfire... How? Some kids won't give their home HS a shot now first as a result of the new rules. But, I didn't either, so...
One other interesting question I was asked recently was about a 7th to 8th grade transfer under the new rules. I don't know if the player would sit a year as entering 9th you're OK but from 7th-to-8th???
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/news/NewTran ... w.doc?mj=9
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I heard this too from a good source but I never trust these things until a kid hits the door day 1 at a new school as sometimes they rethink what's best. I suppose if playing a fall sport at a new school that too may indicate a final decision earlier than day 1 of school since the fall sports start practice before school starts, etc.twowayplay wrote:I heard that there is a young goalie from Hopkins that is transferring to Minnetonka. Can anyone validate?
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More on Hopkins
Also now that Lindsey Burman of Cambridge has apparently made the Thoroughbreds, I would assume the plan to OE at Hopkins will not go forward. I believe she was going to stay enrolled at Cambridge if she made the Thoroughbreds roster. Does anyone have any info on this?
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http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12567goldp wrote:Is the new T'Breds roster posted somewhere?
http://www.mnthoroughbreds.com/players.htm
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Re: More on Hopkins
And - I'll ask again - from another thread:MNHockeyFan wrote:Also now that Lindsey Burman of Cambridge has apparently made the Thoroughbreds, I would assume the plan to OE at Hopkins will not go forward. I believe she was going to stay enrolled at Cambridge if she made the Thoroughbreds roster. Does anyone have any info on this?
I only ask this as with OE sometimes getting asked/saying you've been accepted doesn't always lead to going... Things (and minds) change is my point... I think it's good if people sometimes rethink these decisions or at least give all aspects full consideration before making a big decision... (NOTE THIS ISN'T A SHOT AT THE T-BREDS OR OE!!!)ghshockeyfan wrote:Does "made the team" mean accepted the offer or just had the offer made to play?joehockey wrote:So does anyone know who made the team after tryouts? I was at a rink today and heard from parents of team members that Kari Lundberg of Woodbury (soph), Lindsay Burman of Cambridge (soph), Jaci Lang of St Cloud (post grad) made the team are there others? These would all be great ads to a very good team.
http://www.mnthoroughbreds.com/2007_tryout_info.htm
I suppose they'll be posted here:
http://www.mnthoroughbreds.com/players.htm
I also think it's great to "make" a team or be desired to go elsewhere, but the reality of it is a HUGE change (different isn't always better or worse though either!). That's the risk you take though to find something better, and I think it's a big leap of faith but also what's best (sometimes), but not always (or for everyone)!
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07-08 Class AA prognostication thread
---TTT--- here we go for 07-08! Add your thoughts...
Updating to add Cretin with their strong core and new goalie and Hill-Murray with a nice infusion of young talent from White Bear and a few transfers. Can anyone provide updates from these schools as well as any others who added impact players? I have heard very little as to any impact transfers at other schools.
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Who will emerge and who will slip back next season? Odds-on picks will be those who finished strong, have good returing strength and senior leadership, especially in the nets.
Not trying to slight anyone's team nor offend, just looking for opinions on which teams will gel next season and offer some analysis based on their returning strength. For amusement purposes only. And, these are in no particular order, just my thoughts. Feel free to add your own or argue mine...
In class AA, it looks to me like the more things change, the more they stay the same. Many/most of the top-ranked teams return with strong rosters, but as always there will be some surprises and some who will fall back from their finish in 06-07. Let's take a look...
Stillwater The surprising champs return with a solid core of young talent. A handful of graduating seniors, including the goalie, will clear the way for emerging players from one of the better/deeper youth programs in the state, making the Ponies a strong contender for several years to come. A repeat is not out of the question, but I think it will be tough this season.
Eden Prairie loses keys Stoa, Lambert and goalie Elliot, but will be back very strong with the deepest incoming senior roster (13!) in the state, another good senior goalie and a strong sense of urgency for next season in what will probably be the team's last hurrah until they go back to the well for a few years.
Benilde will likely benefit from a final infusion of transfer players before the deadline and will once again be a top-3 contender. Loss of Reilly and Trunzo will be felt, but there should be more than enough talent to deliver another trip to state if they can gel for 2nd year coach Herbst. This team should have a major chip on their shoulders.
Roseville is another team that will mature along with their 2nd year coach Vic Brodt. The graduation of workhorse Erin Cody and a few other seniors will be felt, but this team is always competitive. Will have to get past Stillwater; not sure they have enough to do so.
(North Metro) Tri-City Wildcats The Cinderella co-op will be hard-pressed to repeat their surprising success with the loss of many key seniors, not to mention BSM looking for revenge in their section.
Centennial loses eight seniors but is fed by a very talented and deep youth program along with a core of good underclassmen talent. My early favorite in section 5, but Irondale could give them some trouble.
Irondale also has a good young core. Graduates Udvig off D and goalie Brashun; do they have a replacement in the nets ready to go?
Blaine may slide with the loss of the state's top goaltender Nixon as well as the backup goalie and a handful of other players. Fortunately they have coach Steve Guider who keeps churning out star goalies.
Cloquet may suffer the same fate as Blaine, but probably to a greater degree with the graduation of Thunder.
Holy Angels will try to hold steady with a loss of eight seniors including goalie Westberg, but will reload with incoming young talent and some solid transfers as they attempt to contend in a tougher section.
Grand Rapids-Greenway returns most of their key players and are again the favorites in their section. They will have to be wary of Forest Lake who plays tough.
Coon Rapids loses a talented goalie and two franchise players in Rassmussen and Windmeier. I think it will be tough for them to keep pace with Centennial and Irondale in their section.
Bemidji also loses a good goaltender and two forwards but returns a young core of players. Should continue to be strong out of their section but Elk River and rising Moorhead could give them trouble at playoff time.
Edina loses a handful of impact players, especially at D, but has such a deep program it will be a perennial contender. I think Eden Prairie will be a roadblock this year in sections, but they will battle. Edina's fortunes improve dramatically when EP descends in 08-09.
Burnsville graduates goalie Mortinson who helped the upstart Blaze to the tourney and five others, but has some nice younger talent. They will need to hold off Eagan and a scrappy Hastings team. It will be tough to repeat their run but things look better after next season.
Eagan features a strong group of incoming seniors including what most feel is the strongest goalie tandem in the state. This team should be on the rise and is who I consider the section favorite.
Hopkins returns virtually all key players to a young talented team and has landed a talented transfer student. A darkhorse pick that could surprise BSM and/or Wayzata; no longer has to contend with nemisis Edina in sections.
Wayzata graduates Zurek, Yunger and Lorenz but still features a solid core of talent from their large program and a good senior goalie. New section but will have to get past BSM and Hopkins to advance.
Farmington makes the jump to AA to contend with Rochester Mayo and both Lakeville teams in the new section 1. Farmington, Mayo and LV North are suffering key graduation losses; not sure who will emerge but I don't see any of these teams as top 20 this year.
I could easily be wrong though
Fire away!
Updating to add Cretin with their strong core and new goalie and Hill-Murray with a nice infusion of young talent from White Bear and a few transfers. Can anyone provide updates from these schools as well as any others who added impact players? I have heard very little as to any impact transfers at other schools.
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Who will emerge and who will slip back next season? Odds-on picks will be those who finished strong, have good returing strength and senior leadership, especially in the nets.
Not trying to slight anyone's team nor offend, just looking for opinions on which teams will gel next season and offer some analysis based on their returning strength. For amusement purposes only. And, these are in no particular order, just my thoughts. Feel free to add your own or argue mine...
In class AA, it looks to me like the more things change, the more they stay the same. Many/most of the top-ranked teams return with strong rosters, but as always there will be some surprises and some who will fall back from their finish in 06-07. Let's take a look...
Stillwater The surprising champs return with a solid core of young talent. A handful of graduating seniors, including the goalie, will clear the way for emerging players from one of the better/deeper youth programs in the state, making the Ponies a strong contender for several years to come. A repeat is not out of the question, but I think it will be tough this season.
Eden Prairie loses keys Stoa, Lambert and goalie Elliot, but will be back very strong with the deepest incoming senior roster (13!) in the state, another good senior goalie and a strong sense of urgency for next season in what will probably be the team's last hurrah until they go back to the well for a few years.
Benilde will likely benefit from a final infusion of transfer players before the deadline and will once again be a top-3 contender. Loss of Reilly and Trunzo will be felt, but there should be more than enough talent to deliver another trip to state if they can gel for 2nd year coach Herbst. This team should have a major chip on their shoulders.
Roseville is another team that will mature along with their 2nd year coach Vic Brodt. The graduation of workhorse Erin Cody and a few other seniors will be felt, but this team is always competitive. Will have to get past Stillwater; not sure they have enough to do so.
(North Metro) Tri-City Wildcats The Cinderella co-op will be hard-pressed to repeat their surprising success with the loss of many key seniors, not to mention BSM looking for revenge in their section.
Centennial loses eight seniors but is fed by a very talented and deep youth program along with a core of good underclassmen talent. My early favorite in section 5, but Irondale could give them some trouble.
Irondale also has a good young core. Graduates Udvig off D and goalie Brashun; do they have a replacement in the nets ready to go?
Blaine may slide with the loss of the state's top goaltender Nixon as well as the backup goalie and a handful of other players. Fortunately they have coach Steve Guider who keeps churning out star goalies.
Cloquet may suffer the same fate as Blaine, but probably to a greater degree with the graduation of Thunder.
Holy Angels will try to hold steady with a loss of eight seniors including goalie Westberg, but will reload with incoming young talent and some solid transfers as they attempt to contend in a tougher section.
Grand Rapids-Greenway returns most of their key players and are again the favorites in their section. They will have to be wary of Forest Lake who plays tough.
Coon Rapids loses a talented goalie and two franchise players in Rassmussen and Windmeier. I think it will be tough for them to keep pace with Centennial and Irondale in their section.
Bemidji also loses a good goaltender and two forwards but returns a young core of players. Should continue to be strong out of their section but Elk River and rising Moorhead could give them trouble at playoff time.
Edina loses a handful of impact players, especially at D, but has such a deep program it will be a perennial contender. I think Eden Prairie will be a roadblock this year in sections, but they will battle. Edina's fortunes improve dramatically when EP descends in 08-09.
Burnsville graduates goalie Mortinson who helped the upstart Blaze to the tourney and five others, but has some nice younger talent. They will need to hold off Eagan and a scrappy Hastings team. It will be tough to repeat their run but things look better after next season.
Eagan features a strong group of incoming seniors including what most feel is the strongest goalie tandem in the state. This team should be on the rise and is who I consider the section favorite.
Hopkins returns virtually all key players to a young talented team and has landed a talented transfer student. A darkhorse pick that could surprise BSM and/or Wayzata; no longer has to contend with nemisis Edina in sections.
Wayzata graduates Zurek, Yunger and Lorenz but still features a solid core of talent from their large program and a good senior goalie. New section but will have to get past BSM and Hopkins to advance.
Farmington makes the jump to AA to contend with Rochester Mayo and both Lakeville teams in the new section 1. Farmington, Mayo and LV North are suffering key graduation losses; not sure who will emerge but I don't see any of these teams as top 20 this year.
I could easily be wrong though
Fire away!
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Minnetonka - Keep on eye on this team as they infuse a large amount of Talent from State Champion U14A & B teams! Ramsey should provide them much some much needed scoring but they will be young. Could cause some havoc in the strong Classic Lake and Section. If nothing happens this year watch out for some time to come as they have one of the best U12s in state too.
Minnetonka - Keep on eye on this team as they infuse a large amount of Talent from State Champion U14A & B teams! Ramsey should provide them much some much needed scoring but they will be young. Could cause some havoc in the strong Classic Lake and Section. If nothing happens this year watch out for some time to come as they have one of the best U12s in state too.
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I think you are underestimating Hastings.
Hastings; With a wide varitey of age and talent they will be top in their section. Not to mention they have Danellie Welch. They lost an amazing goalie last year. The Hastings underclassmen have been steping up, all they have to do is beat Eagan and i think they have a nice shot at state.
Hastings; With a wide varitey of age and talent they will be top in their section. Not to mention they have Danellie Welch. They lost an amazing goalie last year. The Hastings underclassmen have been steping up, all they have to do is beat Eagan and i think they have a nice shot at state.
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Now that the season is starting to gear towards playoffs, it seems to be a good time to bring this blog back into the mix. I just saw Hastings and based on their section, they are my dark horse to make it to the dance. Don't know that they can do any damage once they get there, but I see them having a great chance.Slapshots10 wrote:I think you are underestimating Hastings.
Hastings; With a wide varitey of age and talent they will be top in their section. Not to mention they have Danellie Welch. They lost an amazing goalie last year. The Hastings underclassmen have been steping up, all they have to do is beat Eagan and i think they have a nice shot at state.