New Transfer Rules - Deadline Approaching

[boblee]

Keep in mind, there is now a difference between transferring and moving.

[ghshockeyfan]

Keep in mind, there is now a difference between transferring and moving.

My favorite variation due to new rules is for kids that have transfered before in past seasons but now could transfer back to their home HS but play sports at the school they xfered to for one final season...

[keepitreal]

Heard at the superrink this weekend, some defections expected from Eden Prairie. A couple of seniors will not be returning. Might they be headed to TBreds or moving in order to attend another school, it was not clear but word is two or three players definitely leaving. Is there trouble brewing in the house of Morris?

I have heard that Hannah Riggs along with her younger sister Megan are intending to enroll at Benilde. But you never know on these types of situations until the first day of school. Don't know anything about any of the other seniors you might be alluding to.

I too heard this along with the names of two other current EP juniors who are rumored to be departing, destination unknown. I could see Tbreds being an option for one or both, otherwise what would be the motivation for giving up 1/2 of your senior varsity season at another school? Might be a total of four players xfering which would certainly hurt EP's chances.

MNHockeyFan, there has also been discussion that BSM is looking at 6-7 incoming transfers (including the aforementioned), of the quality that has some of the swing players who were looking forward to moving up a little worried. Any truth to this?

[SEMetro]

Had any of these 6-7 BSM kids O/Ed before? I hope this is not the case. If so, too bad the new x-fer rule was not retroactive to last September.

[trilogy]

I think a lot of people put through the paperwork a lot of places before the deadline to keep their options open leading up to the start of school next year. As long as that paperwork was done before the deadline, you then have options. If not, you will be sitting a year by the new guidelines.

I have heard far more movement rumored this year than any past year and I believe this is due to the new rules. After this year though it will be harder.

Yes, I have heard too of several girls putting paperwork in by 3/31 just so they have options. First week of school will tell all.

[ghshockeyfan]

I think a lot of people put through the paperwork a lot of places before the deadline to keep their options open leading up to the start of school next year. As long as that paperwork was done before the deadline, you then have options. If not, you will be sitting a year by the new guidelines.

I have heard far more movement rumored this year than any past year and I believe this is due to the new rules. After this year though it will be harder.

Yes, I have heard too of several girls putting paperwork in by 3/31 just so they have options. First week of school will tell all.

Agreed!

[MNHockeyFan]

I too heard this along with the names of two other current EP juniors who are rumored to be departing, destination unknown. I could see Tbreds being an option for one or both, otherwise what would be the motivation for giving up 1/2 of your senior varsity season at another school? Might be a total of four players xfering which would certainly hurt EP's chances.

MNHockeyFan, there has also been discussion that BSM is looking at 6-7 incoming transfers (including the aforementioned), of the quality that has some of the swing players who were looking forward to moving up a little worried. Any truth to this?

Besides the Riggs' sisters, I haven't heard of any other definites, other than a girl whose family is moving up from Chicago - who knows how good she might be and whether she'll be a varsity player. I think it's public knowledge that Jordyn Burns, a very good player from Minnetonka U14a, is coming in as a 9th grader. Other than that, to the best of my knowledge any others are just rumors at this stage.

If there are in fact any other transfers who actually will be enrolling, I would think the swing players who were looking forward to moving up would have to be worried. As ghs has said, this probably will be the last year that we'll see a large number of girls. other than incoming 9th graders, who are seriously looking at changing schools.

[keepitreal]

If there are in fact any other transfers who actually will be enrolling, I would think the swing players who were looking forward to moving up would have to be worried. As ghs has said, this probably will be the last year that we'll see a large number of girls. other than incoming 9th graders, who are seriously looking at changing schools.

I agree with what you are saying; I too believe this will likely be the final year we'll see any significant number of upperclassmen transfers.

[MNHockeyFan]

"Nearly 1,000 seek to transfer ahead of rule change"

Article in today's StarTribune:

http://www.startribune.com/526/story/1142238.html

This kind of summarizes what we've been saying:

"I'm not sure what any of this means," said Chris Franson, a Minnesota State High School League assistant director. "We may not know exactly until next year to see if they actually transfer."

It would be interesting to know how many of the 919 students were varsity athletes last year, and of these how many are male/female hockey players.

[hshockeyfan91]

Under the new transfer rules, I know that a player can move to a new high school any year, and still play for the old high school for at least one year. I can transfer from Wayzata to Anoka, attend Anoka all year, and still play on the Wayzata team.

I have two questions:

1) Can I keep doing that - or is it only for one year. For example, could I say that I am very impressed with the academics at Blake, but think my chances to play hockey are better at Armstrong (current school), and transfer to Blake after a freshamn year and play three more years at Armstrong, or can I only do that for one year?

2) Esp if it's only for one year, why would a team keep a player on the roster - it seems like no matter how good the ability, there would be more distractions and issues with someone you knew would be gone the next year by choice.

Thoughts

[ghshockeyfan]

1) One year only is my understanding. BUT - I do wonder if you could keep flip flopping between schools & teams (more on that later)...

2) The way I see it is that as a coach I take the best players that are eligible and show up for my tryout. I don't think I can discriminate against a kid because they left the HS school wise but decided to play the year of sports at the old HS. Hurts though as in theory you're developing a kid for another program and not developing a kid as much in your own program as a result?

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I do wonder if a kid could change schools every year and never sit a penalty. Meaning, take any two (or more) schools, start attending school A in 9th grade, transfer to B in 10th but play at A for 10th, then transfer back to A (or to another school C) for 11th but play at B for 11th, etc. just always playing at the school you were at the year before but going to school at a new school?

Shouldn't ever happen I suppose, but I guess it's possible...

[hshockeyfan91]

The only way the rule of being able to play at the "old high school" makes sense to me is if there is an unlimited number of seasons that you can play at the "old school."

We all know that we "graduate" to new levels - i.e. U10 to U12, U14 to High School, HS to college, etc. So not being on the team next year because of a "graduation/advancement" is a normal part of life. However, when kids switch programs within a level often (not always, but often) there is a resentment from the "old team" - like "we weren't good enought for you?"

I can really see a kid transferinng for academic reasons, but staying in sports at the old school for years. It feels like the commitment to the teammates is still there. But if you're playing on a team this year KNOWING that you CAN NOT play on the team again next year, and that instead you'll be an opponent - doesn't that feel a little weird? Are your teammates going to respect that?

Also, how does it work if I went to Breck/Blake etc., and then transfer to Minnetonka? Do I get to play on the Breck team another year without having to pay the $20M+ tuition? Wouldn't the families paying $20M be kind of disappointed if the "Minnetonka kid" (playing for free) had a lot of ice time?

[ghshockeyfan]

I see what you are saying on the "right to play forever" at your original school. This is also kind of like the idea that maybe HS sports should be played by where you live and not where you go to HS... Some think that that would take a lot of the drama out of worrying about picking a good school for sports and academics. Instead you could just worry about getting the best academic school (as OE allows for) and then play where you live (often with all your friends that you grew up with?)... But, I suppose the flip side is that some want the "complete package" of HS and sports at that HS (for many reasons) and not just the "school" academic piece... Where all of this gets even more complicated is at private schools, and some too feel they should have a league of their own or something like that, so I won't even get started on that issue as that's really not the point of this thread... Interesting concept of leaving a private and going elsewhere and still playing at the prior private though... I also think a neat OPTION would be to play at your HOME area HS sports wise but OE to another school for academics for multiple years including if you went private or public...