anoka d?

elkshock22 · Post by **elkshock22** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:06 pm

i heard their defense in the ssp tourney was terrible, and they now are short another d.. any truth to this?

62ZamboniMeister · Post by **62ZamboniMeister** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:15 am

Anoka d ?

elkshock22 · Post by **elkshock22** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:09 pm

one good defenseman can not do it for a single team. I will give you lesmeister, but in the game against ER, the big #3 was partnered with another big guy (24 or 28) and last year mantheys poor footwork allowed many teams to just blow right past him..

northwoods oldtimer · Post by **northwoods oldtimer** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:57 pm

Anoka D?

Mario58 · Post by **Mario58** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:25 pm

62ZamboniMeister- you must be Lesmeister's dad

HOFam'r · Post by **HOFam'r** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:22 pm

62ZamboniMeister wrote:I don't know what you heard but Anoka's poor defensive play is not about the defensemen or lack thereof. Anoka has probably the best defensive defenseman in the state in Jeff Lesmeister. When he is on the ice, Anoka is usually in control of the play. Unfortunately he isn't able to play 51 min of the game though he is usually on the ice 75% of the time and almost 100% of the penalty kill time. Now that Tony Rush has moved to defense and paired up with Lesmeister Anoka has a first line defensive pair equal to any in the state. The problem is after that they have nothing. The "poor devensive play" of Anoka in the Hopkins game was actually atributed to the lack of defensive play on the part of their forwards, especially the big three, O'Neil, Belsile, and Scott along with unusually poor defensive play on the part of their second line defensemen.
The next two games in the St Paul Tournament Anoka played their backup goaltender and saw the partial return of one of their top four defensemen from last year in Tyler Manthey who played a few shifts in each game. In the consolation championship game Lesmeister put on an exihibition of defensive play totally dominating Egan in all three zones. Egan only managed to score when he went off the ice. The Anoka forwards played much beter defensively in the game as well.

Wait a minute...are you serious when you say Lesmeister is one of the best in the State? Honestly, you cannot be serious??? Are you his Dad???

EREmpireStrikesBack · Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:15 pm

Don't worry, Anoka players have a history of getting on here and talking themselves up. Just ask Brandon Eason...

62ZamboniMeister · Post by **62ZamboniMeister** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:37 am

Is this thread about Anoka D?

Govs93 · Post by **Govs93** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:51 am

62ZamboniMeister wrote:What is truly amazing is the amount of ignorance spewn forth on these forums in the name of hockey knowledge. Why is an obvious Elk River fan posting a topic about Anoka defense in a tournament which he did not attend? Anoka shut out Elk River 4 to 0 with only two of their regular defensemen in the lineup. Is the Elk River fan grasping on to the hope that all the regular defensemen of Anoka will be injured or out when they play again giving Elk River the slightest chance to even score a goal. Sorry elkshock22, the top Anoka defensemen are in great shape playing better every game. To the other Elk River fan please do not compare Jeff Lesmeister to Brandon Eason. He was a hack goalie whose only thing bigger than his 5 hole was his mouth. Lesmeister would not lower himself so much as to even read these forums much less post on them. He would never toot his own horn so I will do it for him. I stand by what I said about him being one of the best when it comes to playing the defensive aspects of the position. His skills are excellent stoping the rush at the blueline, one on one against the boards, tying up and cleararing space in front of the net. He does not contribute much to the offense (other than creating turnovers and initiating outlet passes to forwards creating breakaways and odd man rushes) which is why he does not have the stats or get the notoriety of the totally offensive forwards (i.e. gleason) but he does not get beat in the defensive zone or cought out of position deep in the offensive zone like so many of those offensive forwards do. On a team with three highly skilled offensive players Lesmeister focuses on playing defense. What more could you ask for out of a defenseman.

Geez... somebody likes hearing themselves talk...

I was at the tournament, and I've seen teams all over the metro (I see you're a newbie here - who evidently has "lowered" himself enough to post here - so other regulars here will tell you I've seen most teams that matter) and if you think that Anoka is among the "elites" in defense, you're sadly mistaken.

Hopkins exposed them in a big a way. I'll give you the fact that Anoka played well early on in that game, but it's a 51 minute game, and Anoka lasted about 30. So you can rant and rave about how great each individual on that team is, but they so obviously lack conditioning, it's ridiculous. More dry land would do them a lot of good - get away from the weights, get on the treadmill.

I'm guessing you've been fooled by the success they've had against the North Metros and Coon Rapids of the world, because this team cannot compete with the elite (heck... I'll even go so far as to say good) team in this state. They have proven that time and time and time again over the last couple of seasons.

But again - thanks for finding us, and lowering yourself to our level on the bored. It's nice to have you here.

MNsGreatest#2 · Post by **MNsGreatest#2** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:06 pm

62ZamboniMeister wrote:What is truly amazing is the amount of ignorance spewn forth on these forums in the name of hockey knowledge. Why is an obvious Elk River fan posting a topic about Anoka defense in a tournament which he did not attend? Anoka shut out Elk River 4 to 0 with only two of their regular defensemen in the lineup. Is the Elk River fan grasping on to the hope that all the regular defensemen of Anoka will be injured or out when they play again giving Elk River the slightest chance to even score a goal. Sorry elkshock22, the top Anoka defensemen are in great shape playing better every game. To the other Elk River fan please do not compare Jeff Lesmeister to Brandon Eason. He was a hack goalie whose only thing bigger than his 5 hole was his mouth. Lesmeister would not lower himself so much as to even read these forums much less post on them. He would never toot his own horn so I will do it for him. I stand by what I said about him being one of the best when it comes to playing the defensive aspects of the position. His skills are excellent stoping the rush at the blueline, one on one against the boards, tying up and cleararing space in front of the net. He does not contribute much to the offense (other than creating turnovers and initiating outlet passes to forwards creating breakaways and odd man rushes) which is why he does not have the stats or get the notoriety of the totally offensive forwards (i.e. gleason) but he does not get beat in the defensive zone or cought out of position deep in the offensive zone like so many of those offensive forwards do. On a team with three highly skilled offensive players Lesmeister focuses on playing defense. What more could you ask for out of a defenseman.

I am confused as to what evidence you have saying that EREmipre has no right to rate Jeff. I mean just because he didnt get to see him play is SSP doesnt mean one thing. In fact, if one were to judge Lesmeister based soley on his play in this tourney, they would be the wrong party. I know this happens only when pigs fly, but I agree with EREmpire on this one. Jeff is a good player, and he means a lot to Anoka as a team, but he is not the best D in the state, nor is he top ten. I mean you are entitled to you opinion, I just do not agree.

P.S. If your gonna come on here and talk up Jeff Lesmeister and talk down the rest of his defensive teamates, you might not want your name to be "62ZamboniMeister." Just food for thought.

HOFam'r · Post by **HOFam'r** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:06 am

62ZamboniMeister wrote:What is truly amazing is the amount of ignorance spewn forth on these forums in the name of hockey knowledge. Why is an obvious Elk River fan posting a topic about Anoka defense in a tournament which he did not attend? Anoka shut out Elk River 4 to 0 with only two of their regular defensemen in the lineup. Is the Elk River fan grasping on to the hope that all the regular defensemen of Anoka will be injured or out when they play again giving Elk River the slightest chance to even score a goal. Sorry elkshock22, the top Anoka defensemen are in great shape playing better every game. To the other Elk River fan please do not compare Jeff Lesmeister to Brandon Eason. He was a hack goalie whose only thing bigger than his 5 hole was his mouth. Lesmeister would not lower himself so much as to even read these forums much less post on them. He would never toot his own horn so I will do it for him. I stand by what I said about him being one of the best when it comes to playing the defensive aspects of the position. His skills are excellent stoping the rush at the blueline, one on one against the boards, tying up and cleararing space in front of the net. He does not contribute much to the offense (other than creating turnovers and initiating outlet passes to forwards creating breakaways and odd man rushes) which is why he does not have the stats or get the notoriety of the totally offensive forwards (i.e. gleason) but he does not get beat in the defensive zone or cought out of position deep in the offensive zone like so many of those offensive forwards do. On a team with three highly skilled offensive players Lesmeister focuses on playing defense. What more could you ask for out of a defenseman.

I am lowering myself posting on this thread...sorry Jeff. I have seen Jeff play quite a bit over the years...AAA and High School...in my opinion he is a good but not great player. His and his fathers opinion of him is much different..they think he's a sure D1 bet...doubtful. I must say I never met someone as pompous as his father.

62ZamboniMeister · Post by **62ZamboniMeister** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:05 pm

HOFam'r wrote: I am lowering myself posting on this thread...in my opinion he is a good but not great player.

Thanks for proving my point about ignorance. Thankfully, your opinion, or mine for that matter, don't mean a thing.

MNsGreatest#2 · Post by **MNsGreatest#2** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:25 pm

You wouldnt happen to be jeffs brother would you?

The one with the sweet blue ovechkin shield?

petern3 · Post by **petern3** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 3:20 am

Jeff Lesmeister is not a top "50" senior defenseman in Minnesota by a long shot. I have played against him (for Blaine), and watched him play twice last year and he IS NOT a skilled defenseman!! When I saw that he was playing in the elite league I was amazed, this must have had something to do with the Anoka coaching staff. I think that anyone saying he's good is honestly just trying to promote a defenseman that is simply a hard worker. He's definately not bad, but truly believe OVERRATED! And he plays WAY TOO MUCH!!! The coaches there must think he the best new thing since sliced bread.

EREmpireStrikesBack · Post by **EREmpireStrikesBack** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:46 am

I'm getting credit where it isn't even due? I'm flattered.

As far as Jeff (aka 62ZamboniMeister or whatever member of his family that may be), I have not seen him play this year so I am not going to pass my judgment on him as a player. I have seen him play in past years and was not thoroughly impressed, but he could have gotten better, so who knows. Based on the unbiased opinion of Famer, I would guess that what I saw in the past hasn't changed much. (Never thought I'd be using famer as a credible source). Either way, I think whoever Meister is would be best served staying away from the boards. They may talk about Eason in a negative manner, but the tides can easily be turned and exposure isn't always good.

Can't Never Tried · Post by **Can't Never Tried** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:52 am

EREmpireStrikesBack wrote:I'm getting credit where it isn't even due? I'm flattered.

As far as Jeff (aka 62ZamboniMeister or whatever member of his family that may be), I have not seen him play this year so I am not going to pass my judgment on him as a player. I have seen him play in past years and was not thoroughly impressed, but he could have gotten better, so who knows. Based on the unbiased opinion of Famer, I would guess that what I saw in the past hasn't changed much. (Never thought I'd be using famer as a credible source). Either way, I think whoever Meister is would be best served staying away from the boards. They may talk about Eason in a negative manner, but the tides can easily be turned and exposure isn't always good.

Agreed..... HOF can be harsh, but he does know the players, and having read his summary's of players that I've seen, he's damn close to what my take would be as well.... not all cases, but many!

Hockey1021 · Post by **Hockey1021** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:52 am

why dont you keep talking your son up!! I have seen Jeff play in the last couple of Anoka's games and i wasn't too impressed. He is a smart hockey player, but he isnt very consistent. He tends to hold onto the puck when he is pressured and mostly looses it. There are far better defenseman in the state..