closed practices for Machine and Deuce

[BoogeyMan]

Sorno, You're right! I shouldn't be so defensive. Since I'm part of Minnesota made. I'm sick of people taking shots. Without a doubt. Minnesota made is a great program for Mites.

[HockeyDadMN]

Waylon wrote: "There was an earlier post how 12-13 kids off that Edina Squirt A team are MM kids,they are incredible,it has been said they might be the best group to ever come out of there,by people who have been around a long time."

I think that's a different story. This years Edina Squirt A team was built last year by the squirt A coach, who brought a bunch of first year squirts (and MM players) onto the A team, so they could get experience before his son joined them this year as a first year squirt. Edina has a a rule not allowing "A" team parent coaches and a rule that gives preference to 2nd year players, but they didn't seem to apply to the squirt A coach.

It's no wonder why parents are looking for alternatives to associations.

[spin-o-rama]

This years Edina Squirt A team was built last year by the squirt A coach, who brought a bunch of first year squirts (and MM players) onto the A team, so they could get experience before his son joined them this year as a first year squirt. Edina has a a rule not allowing "A" team parent coaches and a rule that gives preference to 2nd year players, but they didn't seem to apply to the squirt A coach.

It's no wonder why parents are looking for alternatives to associations.

Have you seen the team play? The coach's son is not the only first year squirt on the team and definitely belongs.

The unfortunate thing is that there are plenty of A players on their B teams

[BoogeyMan]

From what I hear they will do some damage in the future. I do admit I think people are getting excited about this team because they have so many Machine, Deuce and I believe Blades players on this team.
Fact is this is a young group. Lets see where they are in 3-4 years. I have no doubt they will be a strong team for years to come.

I think what sets the Edina squirts apart from many other associations. They have enough quality/talented players to field two squirt "A" teams. Not many associations could do this.

I admit. I would like to see this squirt "A" team play some Peewee teams. (no check)

[BoogeyMan]

What is the Edina Squirt record so far this season?

[waylon]

we will have to start a new post,how good are the Edina Squirt A's,it's a great subject !My son has played with and against this group,and I would much rather see him play with!MM no doubt has done alot with this group,but the Edina A coach is also very committed to the development of this group also!I believe they will be very succesful for years to come,some will leave but they are deep enough to lose a few.If they would have had 2 equal teams,both of them would be dominating!The question is will they lose a game?
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[tomASS]

Lee- just give MM their own forum. I enjoy reading about PeeWee and Bantam.

Parents worrying about Mite and Squirt age players is just too funny in so many different and wrong ways.

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, I don't need to read or respond and will probably be more discerning in what topics I look at in this forum.

Give them a forum, put take advantage of their business acumen by having a business model that you can profit from.

[Lily Braden]

The machine and deuce practices will be closed next summer,so nobody will be able to steal the secret formula that turns 10 yr old puddle jumpers into NHL prospects! what do all the experts think of this strategy?

Sounds like *someone* read the article from the Strib about the Rhode Island coach who turned his school into a hockey machine. Closed practices for something like 20 years. Only let Orr or Howe (can't remember) watch the practice one time. And only for 20 minutes.

That, or the parents are pains in the tush and the coach wants them out

Logistically speaking, I'm not sure how you could actually truly close practices there. There's glass everywhere. Are they going to go GITMO and hand everyone a black hood when they come in?

[Air Force 1]

Are they going to go GITMO and hand everyone a black hood when they come in?

I don't care who you are, that'f funny right there!

[DMom]

there's no such thing as no check peewee hockey. once they start, you can't stop them. that's why the mite and squirt parents are so funny....

[waylon]

Lee- just give MM their own forum. I enjoy reading about PeeWee and Bantam.

Parents worrying about Mite and Squirt age players is just too funny in so many different and wrong ways.

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, I don't need to read or respond and will probably be more discerning in what topics I look at in this forum.

Give them a forum, put take advantage of their business acumen by having a business model that you can profit from.

Tomass or is it dumass,then go read about the Peewee Bantams,and stay off this thread if it bothers you,thats an easy fix
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[waylon]

I wonder if he can leave that alone,I have a feeling is association loveing buddies will be shortly behind him,spinorama I may need some backup
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[breakout]

Lee- just give MM their own forum. I enjoy reading about PeeWee and Bantam.

Parents worrying about Mite and Squirt age players is just too funny in so many different and wrong ways.

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, I don't need to read or respond and will probably be more discerning in what topics I look at in this forum.

Give them a forum, put take advantage of their business acumen by having a business model that you can profit from.

Tomass or is it dumass,then go read about the Peewee Bantams,and stay off this thread if it bothers you,thats an easy fix

There's that charming personality rising to the surface again. Not sure I remember the forum rules, but I think name calling is a violation Maybe you should apologize to Mr. TomAss ..........

[RobRay]

There's that charming personality rising to the surface again. Not sure I remember the forum rules, but I think name calling is a violation Maybe you should apologize to Mr. TomAss ..........

Isn't tomASS the one that put ASS in his name? Would you be offended if someone referred to you as freakout?
Be patiant boys, mite and squirt parents will be peewee and bantam parents soon. And guess what! You will still be reading their posts.

[BoogeyMan]

Lee- just give MM their own forum. I enjoy reading about PeeWee and Bantam.

Parents worrying about Mite and Squirt age players is just too funny in so many different and wrong ways.

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, I don't need to read or respond and will probably be more discerning in what topics I look at in this forum.

Give them a forum, put take advantage of their business acumen by having a business model that you can profit from.

tomASS- Once again. If you don't like this forum. Go Away! It looks like people like chatting about Mites and Squirts. Please spare me with the Mite and Squirt parent routine. It's getting old. Just like you.

[Can't Never Tried]

So parents can't watch practice if they want?

[tomASS]

breakout - thanks for the support, but if thats the best they got, they'll have to do much better.

Be patiant boys, mite and squirt parents will be peewee and bantam parents soon. And guess what! You will still be reading their posts.

Yeah and they usually mature some by then and their reality isn't clouded so much. One though, I know, will never comprehend the simplest concepts

No check peewee eh? and this is someone who says it's all about winning at every single level. If so let them play by the rules of the age.

[breakout]

There's that charming personality rising to the surface again. Not sure I remember the forum rules, but I think name calling is a violation Maybe you should apologize to Mr. TomAss ..........

Isn't tomASS the one that put ASS in his name? Would you be offended if someone referred to you as freakout?
Be patiant boys, mite and squirt parents will be peewee and bantam parents soon. And guess what! You will still be reading their posts.

Look above smart guy and see what is underlined

As for freakout...........I kind of like it. Thanks for the offering on that quality 6th post of yours

[gilmour]

i have seen a child singled out, during practice, on two occassions and belittled on the ice to the point of crying (hence my point of needing to close their practices rather than change their style)...i have seen interesting tactics during games that seem to push the limits of creative instruction/motivation.

I have also seen some pretty darn good hockey players come out of there - their style is what it is...demanding with a high level of accountability...most people that are going to argue against MM will say that it is too much for a 10, 11 or 12 year old kid and that it could end in a kid peaking at an early age and then lose interest.

If you go in thinking it is going to be like association hockey than you are going to have a problem...association hockey is the benchmark and if you go above and below that benchmark you are going to get called on it at some point in time.

[BoogeyMan]

i have seen a child singled out, during practice, on two occassions and belittled on the ice to the point of crying (hence my point of needing to close their practices rather than change their style)...i have seen interesting tactics during games that seem to push the limits of creative instruction/motivation.

I have also seen some pretty darn good hockey players come out of there - their style is what it is...demanding with a high level of accountability...most people that are going to argue against MM will say that it is too much for a 10, 11 or 12 year old kid and that it could end in a kid peaking at an early age and then lose interest.

If you go in thinking it is going to be like association hockey than you are going to have a problem...association hockey is the benchmark and if you go above and below that benchmark you are going to get called on it at some point in time.

Gilmour- Please keep in mind that what you wrote has nothing to do with the Choice Mite league. Minnesota made AAA and Minnesota made Mite league are two totally different worlds. Bernie does create the practice plans for the coaches to follow.
The beauty of the league is all the coaches follow one practice plan. All 8 teams work on the same drills each practice.
As for ALL the players on his AAA teams. Each player and their parents know exactly what they're getting into when accepting to play for Bernie. Some players choose to leave. Some players choose to stay. Just like association hockey.

[BoogeyMan]

breakout - thanks for the support, but if thats the best they got, they'll have to do much better.

Be patiant boys, mite and squirt parents will be peewee and bantam parents soon. And guess what! You will still be reading their posts.

Yeah and they usually mature some by then and their reality isn't clouded so much. One though, I know, will never comprehend the simplest concepts

No check peewee eh? and this is someone who says it's all about winning at every single level. If so let them play by the rules of the age.

tomASS- Are you allowed to use the word mature? I didn't think it was in your vocabulary?

PEACE!

[Truthbetold]

What does "Choice Mite" league mean? That these are the best kids from a tough and extended tryout process against thousands of kids, or they had the choice to pay or not?

It does sound like a very good program to develop kids that have the interest, ability, time to devote, thick skin, and cash flow. Let the associations learn and build better practices, offer more hours and provide a "level" to build numbers by offering a good program with less commitment and less expense. Seems like the two can fit nicely. Does MM offer a low cost, low commitment alternative?

Either way, choice is nice. Just stop trying to get people to drink the Koolaid.

[spin-o-rama]

Lee- just give MM their own forum. I enjoy reading about PeeWee and Bantam.

Parents worrying about Mite and Squirt age players is just too funny in so many different and wrong ways.

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, I don't need to read or respond and will probably be more discerning in what topics I look at in this forum.

Give them a forum, put take advantage of their business acumen by having a business model that you can profit from.

It took until your 3rd post to figure out this thread wasn't about Peewees and Bantams?

Have a good day!

[Tenoverpar]

How many people, honestly, as you get along further, actually stick around and watch your player(s) practice anyway? "Drive up, drop off, okay dude..see you in an hour or so..I'll be out here!"

Let them close it if they want, who cares...this is only an issue for parents of the kids playing on these teams..if they have an issue with it take it up with the MM Coaches.

[BoogeyMan]

What does "Choice Mite" league mean? That these are the best kids from a tough and extended tryout process against thousands of kids, or they had the choice to pay or not?

It does sound like a very good program to develop kids that have the interest, ability, time to devote, thick skin, and cash flow. Let the associations learn and build better practices, offer more hours and provide a "level" to build numbers by offering a good program with less commitment and less expense. Seems like the two can fit nicely. Does MM offer a low cost, low commitment alternative?

Either way, choice is nice. Just stop trying to get people to drink the Koolaid.

Quit worrying about Minnesota made.