2008 Mississippi Eight

[HOFam'r]

It's a little of both selfish players and politics all the way up the youth. Cole May and Zach Otts both went to ER last year, but Otts came back this year and is playing JV for transfer violations. They get big heads and think they are gonna get noticed...but Johnson was only here for a few years I believe he came from Wayzata, played Varsity as an 8th-10th grader, then moved to M-W. It's not like he was home brewed, like May and Otts were.

Otts was the better player coming up in youth as I recall. May and his mother were the only ones who thought Cole was good...again if I recall. Is May playing for ER? If so it probably explains ER's fall from the top. Ott's liked to mix it up too much and from outside the window it appears he might be a little much for a coach to handle...neither player overly impressed me but both probably could make a difference on the Club they have now.

Yeah Otts was the better player from the youth and i think May is playing ER JV. I know that the STMA coaches have got Otts shaped up a lot better now since his youth days. Otts still likes to mix it up but he moves the puck and skates it, because in JV he just owns everyone.

So Ott's is regulated to JV for the entire season?

[stlouis26]

Otts was the better player coming up in youth as I recall. May and his mother were the only ones who thought Cole was good...again if I recall. Is May playing for ER? If so it probably explains ER's fall from the top. Ott's liked to mix it up too much and from outside the window it appears he might be a little much for a coach to handle...neither player overly impressed me but both probably could make a difference on the Club they have now.

Yeah Otts was the better player from the youth and i think May is playing ER JV. I know that the STMA coaches have got Otts shaped up a lot better now since his youth days. Otts still likes to mix it up but he moves the puck and skates it, because in JV he just owns everyone.

So Ott's is regulated to JV for the entire season?

Transfer rules only, otherwise he would be playing varsity

[puckulence]

[quote="stlouis26 Otts still likes to mix it up but he moves the puck and skates it, because in JV he just owns everyone.[/quote]

He is a good player but just to point it out earlier in the thread JV success doesn't mean he will be a quality varsity player. I am not saying I agree with this but some people do. I believe if a player can dominate the JV level there is no doubt he will be a quality player on varsity. Mr. Otts was STMA's only threat on their JV team but he did take a costly penalty at the end of the game that kept him in the box for 3 of the last 4 minutes. He will be a good player next year as long as he can control what he does.

[stlouis26]

[quote="stlouis26 Otts still likes to mix it up but he moves the puck and skates it, because in JV he just owns everyone.

He is a good player but just to point it out earlier in the thread JV success doesn't mean he will be a quality varsity player. I am not saying I agree with this but some people do. I believe if a player can dominate the JV level there is no doubt he will be a quality player on varsity. Mr. Otts was STMA's only threat on their JV team but he did take a costly penalty at the end of the game that kept him in the box for 3 of the last 4 minutes. He will be a good player next year as long as he can control what he does.[/quote]
very true. he does take some bad penalties, but for the most part our team is solid enough to kill them off. what game was that?

[puckulence]

very true. he does take some bad penalties, but for the most part our team is solid enough to kill them off. what game was that?

It was with about 4 minutes left in the rogers game. Someone took a run at him and the ref was going to call it then he slashed the rogers player so the ref rung him up as well. Again just one incident I noticed, and I am not saying I've seen him more then once. I honestly think he will be a quality player in the M8 next year it is just a question of if he has anyone to go with him.

[stlouis26]

very true. he does take some bad penalties, but for the most part our team is solid enough to kill them off. what game was that?

It was with about 4 minutes left in the rogers game. Someone took a run at him and the ref was going to call it then he slashed the rogers player so the ref rung him up as well. Again just one incident I noticed, and I am not saying I've seen him more then once. I honestly think he will be a quality player in the M8 next year it is just a question of if he has anyone to go with him.

Yeah that happens. He will be quality, and the STMA junior class is pretty good, with Flarehty, Varness, Kessler, both goalies back, Fricke and Hensel, plus Diers the soph defenseman and a couple other sophs now who are solid

[puckulence]

Yes unfortunately..a fight did break out.
I didn't see how it started, as the game was over, and I was already falling asleep .
I believe 3 Rogers players Spratt, Hullander, and Polfuss, and 2 BBL players ?? got game misconducts, very stupid on behalf of the Rogers players involved, it was behind the BBL goalie and totally unnecessary, You beat them 10-0 and give up 4 shots on goal and have to fight at the end???

The sad part is Polfuss from Rogers was not even on the ice, and got one?
I heard the refs said they wouldn't change it but they did make the wrong call, sucks for him.
It should have been Kielsa or Palmer.
I did hear they got a good axe chewing afterward by Coach Marchand...

It won't effect much for Rogers in their next game, as the first two are 3rd line D, and Polfuss is 2nd line fwd. and interchangeable.

Again Dumb ! Dumb ! Dumd !

Yeah I would agree that is very dumb...the funny thing is the same night WBL and HM cleared the benches and fought as well. It seems the boys are agetaded easily this year with more fighting majors this year then I can ever remember. what is your take on why this is happening? Lack of control/discipline from the players? or is it they see it in the NHL so they think it is ok in the high school game?

[gabby]

It was Thelen the goalie who was playing JV. He needed to play to get time in a game rather than sitting the bench behind Turnquist. If the player isn't playing and they need him to get playing time by playing JV, I have no problem with that at all. It doesn't matter who you. Game time is better than bench time.

[stlouis26]

i heard a kid got arrested at the north branch/ stma game

[MNPuckster50]

It is almost a tradition that STMA kids leave for other programs. I believe this list was posted a couple seasons ago. All these kids played Pee Wee hockey in STMA and transfered at some point in their HS days.

Kyle Rogers to Elk River ('04)
Tony Rogers to Elk River ('07)
Zach Graham to Rogers ('07)
Zach Johnson to Mound ('08 )
Danny Heskin to Rogers ('08 )
Zach Otts to Elk River ('09)
Cole May to Elk River ('09)
Taylor Hedlund to Roseau ('10)

Buffalo has lost a couple to Elk River over the years. Rogers has kept their players and had kids transfer in:

Eric Kupka from Elk River ('07)
Joel Scattarelli from Elk River ('09)


Good coaches and program attract kids. Anybody suprised by that?

*('xx is HS graduating class not year of transfer)

[Can't Never Tried]

It is almost a tradition that STMA kids leave for other programs. I believe this list was posted a couple seasons ago. All these kids played Pee Wee hockey in STMA and transfered at some point in their HS days.

Kyle Rogers to Elk River ('04)
Tony Rogers to Elk River ('07)
Zach Graham to Rogers ('07)
Zach Johnson to Mound ('08 )
Danny Heskin to Rogers ('08 )
Zach Otts to Elk River ('09)
Cole May to Elk River ('09)
Taylor Hedlund to Roseau ('10)

Buffalo has lost a couple to Elk River over the years. Rogers has kept their players and had kids transfer in:

Eric Kupka from Elk River ('07)
Joel Scattarelli from Elk River ('09) ('08 ) Correction


Good coaches and program attract kids. Anybody suprised by that?

*('xx is HS graduating class not year of transfer)

[Neutron 14]

It is almost a tradition that STMA kids leave for other programs. I believe this list was posted a couple seasons ago. All these kids played Pee Wee hockey in STMA and transfered at some point in their HS days.

Kyle Rogers to Elk River ('04)
Tony Rogers to Elk River ('07)
Zach Graham to Rogers ('07)
Zach Johnson to Mound ('08 )
Danny Heskin to Rogers ('08 )
Zach Otts to Elk River ('09)
Cole May to Elk River ('09)
Taylor Hedlund to Roseau ('10)

Buffalo has lost a couple to Elk River over the years. Rogers has kept their players and had kids transfer in:

Eric Kupka from Elk River ('07)
Joel Scattarelli from Elk River ('09) ('08 ) Correction


Good coaches and program attract kids. Anybody suprised by that?

*('xx is HS graduating class not year of transfer)

ER doesn't have a program?

[Mnh0ckey]

It is almost a tradition that STMA kids leave for other programs. I believe this list was posted a couple seasons ago. All these kids played Pee Wee hockey in STMA and transfered at some point in their HS days.

Kyle Rogers to Elk River ('04)
Tony Rogers to Elk River ('07)
Zach Graham to Rogers ('07)
Zach Johnson to Mound ('08 )
Danny Heskin to Rogers ('08 )
Zach Otts to Elk River ('09)
Cole May to Elk River ('09)
Taylor Hedlund to Roseau ('10)

Rogers Boys left really early. Good overall athletes.
Graham came back and played his Sr. Season at STMA
Johnson (SR) at Mound. Family moved there. Great player.
Heskin(SR) Rumor has it that he and the coaches didn't mix well
Otts (JR) Played 1 year JV at ER now back at STMA. Can't play "V" do to transfer rule. Should have transferred back earlier for 1/2 year of play. Could use him.
May(JR) still at ER on JV I think, not sure. Big kid.
Hedlund (Soph) gonna be good. Heard he broke his jaw this year. I think they were originally from the area.

All in all, if STMA could have kept all those players it would surely have been a positive. But kids leave for different reasons.

[Mnh0ckey]

Heskin(SR) Rumor has it that he and the coaches didn't mix well

Mixed well enough to get the start and SHUTOUT his old team.

I will give credit to Dan. I think Dan is a good goalie. But PLEASE give ALOT of the credit to Rogers D in Jenson and Scattarelli (VERY good players) and the rest of the Rogers team. I don't think Dan was tested at all. So not sure what your point is?

[MNPuckster50]

The one that hurt in St. Michael was when Kyle Rogers left After he was elected Team Captain of STMA. Little brother Tony went with him...[/img][/quote]

[Mnh0ckey]

The one that hurt in St. Michael was when Kyle Rogers left After he was elected Team Captain of STMA. Little brother Tony went with him...[/img]

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I think STMA had different coaches at that time. The Rogers boys were all around good athletes. I think they still played summer ball in STMA. All good players that leave their programs obviously are going to leave a dent in the program they left.

[MNPuckster50]

I think if you look at the athlete pool in the communities you see that Buffalo, Elk River, and Rogers are strong hockey programs and weaker in wrestling. The winter athletes that could cross-over into hockey are more likely to be the wrestlers than basketball players (as you don't see too many 6' 4"+ hockey players in the state). Sarslund, MacMillan, and Marchand really create a pull through the youth programs.

I think you hit the nail when you talk about strong athletes. If you can catch them when they are young... STMA's Kessler is about the only local historical name you see on the hockey roster. What the STMA coach needs to do is catch the Dehmer, Barthel, Dahlheimer, and Thorn kids of the future before they pick other sports...

My hope for the future of M8 as a hockey conference is that more than 2 program develop into contenders. Glimmer of hope last season with Monticello and CI, and a few years back Princeton was very competitive. Would be great for the sport if the student fan base we see in Buffalo and Rogers would spread to the other schools. Nothing better than a rollicking fan atmosphere in a hockey arena!

[Mnh0ckey]

I think if you look at the athlete pool in the communities you see that Buffalo, Elk River, and Rogers are strong hockey programs and weaker in wrestling. The winter athletes that could cross-over into hockey are more likely to be the wrestlers than basketball players (as you don't see too many 6' 4"+ hockey players in the state). Sarslund, MacMillan, and Marchand really create a pull through the youth programs.

I think you hit the nail when you talk about strong athletes. If you can catch them when they are young... STMA's Kessler is about the only local historical name you see on the hockey roster. What the STMA coach needs to do is catch the Dehmer, Barthel, Dahlheimer, and Thorn kids of the future before they pick other sports...

My hope for the future of M8 as a hockey conference is that more than 2 program develop into contenders. Glimmer of hope last season with Monticello and CI, and a few years back Princeton was very competitive. Would be great for the sport if the student fan base we see in Buffalo and Rogers would spread to the other schools. Nothing better than a rollicking fan atmosphere in a hockey arena!

Alot of them lock into that "family tradition" STMA is a huge wrestling community. Grandpa, Dad, older brothers all did it so they follow suit. Right now it seems by looking at their stats, one line is doing OK and as everyone knows it has to go deeper. Depth is key. I also heard they lost a descent player to a broken wrist, not sure on that.

[Can't Never Tried]

Heskin(SR) Rumor has it that he and the coaches didn't mix well

Mixed well enough to get the start and SHUTOUT his old team.

I will give credit to Dan. I think Dan is a good goalie. But PLEASE give ALOT of the credit to Rogers D in Jenson and Scattarelli (VERY good players) and the rest of the Rogers team. I don't think Dan was tested at all. So not sure what your point is?

He faced 15 shots 3-6-6
Dan is fine young man, an average goalie at best, and surely no better then the other 2 Rogers has.

Rogers has faced an average of 10 shots p/game in it's last 4 games which were M8 conf. games.
I don't know what shots for were, but goals for were 28-0 so that's why they need to play better competition.

[Mnh0ckey]

Mixed well enough to get the start and SHUTOUT his old team.

I will give credit to Dan. I think Dan is a good goalie. But PLEASE give ALOT of the credit to Rogers D in Jenson and Scattarelli (VERY good players) and the rest of the Rogers team. I don't think Dan was tested at all. So not sure what your point is?

He faced 15 shots 3-6-6
Dan is fine young man, an average goalie at best, and surely no better then the other 2 Rogers has.

Rogers has faced an average of 10 shots p/game in it's last 4 games which were M8 conf. games.
I don't know what shots for were, but goals for were 28-0 so that's why they need to play better competition.

What is Rogers going to be like when Jenson and Scatterelli are gone? 2 D of their caliber make alot happen. Jenson moves the puck VERY WELL.

[Can't Never Tried]

I will give credit to Dan. I think Dan is a good goalie. But PLEASE give ALOT of the credit to Rogers D in Jenson and Scattarelli (VERY good players) and the rest of the Rogers team. I don't think Dan was tested at all. So not sure what your point is?

He faced 15 shots 3-6-6
Dan is fine young man, an average goalie at best, and surely no better then the other 2 Rogers has.

Rogers has faced an average of 10 shots p/game in it's last 4 games which were M8 conf. games.
I don't know what shots for were, but goals for were 28-0 so that's why they need to play better competition.

What is Rogers going to be like when Jenson and Scatterelli are gone? 2 D of their caliber make alot happen. Jenson moves the puck VERY WELL.

Well if Jensen stays for his sr. year, 2 of the 4 top D will still be here. and there are a couple sophs that are doing OK.

Fwds they only lose Waddick and Lehn, that at this point account for 22 of the teams 174 pts so far

[Mnh0ckey]

He faced 15 shots 3-6-6
Dan is fine young man, an average goalie at best, and surely no better then the other 2 Rogers has.

Rogers has faced an average of 10 shots p/game in it's last 4 games which were M8 conf. games.
I don't know what shots for were, but goals for were 28-0 so that's why they need to play better competition.

What is Rogers going to be like when Jenson and Scatterelli are gone? 2 D of their caliber make alot happen. Jenson moves the puck VERY WELL.

Well if Jensen stays for his sr. year, 2 of the 4 top D will still be here. and there are a couple sophs that are doing OK.

Fwds they only lose Waddick and Lehn, that at this point account for 22 of the teams 174 pts so far

Its great to have that balance in scoring. But if you lose Jenson, it will hurt ALOT. A good D, makes alot happen before the puck ever goes in. But all in all, good luck to Rogers the rest of the year.

[Can't Never Tried]

What is Rogers going to be like when Jenson and Scatterelli are gone? 2 D of their caliber make alot happen. Jenson moves the puck VERY WELL.

Well if Jensen stays for his sr. year, 2 of the 4 top D will still be here. and there are a couple sophs that are doing OK.

Fwds they only lose Waddick and Lehn, that at this point account for 22 of the teams 174 pts so far

Its great to have that balance in scoring. But if you lose Jenson, it will hurt ALOT. A good D, makes alot happen before the puck ever goes in. But all in all, good luck to Rogers the rest of the year.

IMO I don't think it will hurt as much as some people think.
I've said this before, sometimes teams play better as a team, when they lose one very good player.
Jensen plays an offensive game, and he likes to take it end to end, this kind of leaves your fwds standing on the blueline.
But when the game becomes a passing game, more things can happen with 5 players involved rather then one. No knock to his skills he's got those! But eventually the game gets to good, and to fast for most players to pull that off.
One of the best games he played was with a bum ankle, because he moved the puck very well.

[EREmpireStrikesBack]

He's gone after this year. No doubt about it.

It will hurt, but as CNT said they will rebound nicely and it shouldn't diminish them too much.

[puckulence]

He's gone after this year. No doubt about it.

It will hurt, but as CNT said they will rebound nicely and it shouldn't diminish them too much.

Not to mention jensen didn't even play their last game and rogers still put up a 10 spot all be it against a team their JV team could have beat. It just shows they have other people that can score if/when jensen decides to go to green bay.