A & AA what do you think?

[crease control]

In my personal opion . I would like to see them try this for a couple years keep class A & AA totally seperate. They could play more teams in there class. Keep all stats in own division.

If you have a rival in opposite class it would just be a scrimmage no points
the winner would have a *astric by team that won the game or games.

[PuckRanger]

In my personal opion . I would like to see them try this for a couple years keep class A & AA totally seperate. They could play more teams in there class. Keep all stats in own division.

If you have a rival in opposite class it would just be a scrimmage no points
the winner would have a *astric by team that won the game or games.

And what would happen to all the conference games that have A & AA teams matched up against one another? (Keep in mind that conference affiliations are not just for hockey.) The majority of the non-metro conferences would face this scenario.

[newsguy35]

How would you set up rankings for sections and award conference winners? How would you set up the rankings for state as some teams dont play each other and now would have no common opponents...

This would truly ruin the 2 class idea that was put together by the coaches. Some A teams can compete with AA from night to night but not every AA team could win against all AA teams... You would lose a ton of programs that are struggling as is to put a team that is competitive together...

[crease control]

what about going back to a single tourney and having 16 teams in it?

[newsguy35]

what about going back to a single tourney and having 16 teams in it?

same problem as I wrote above. You would definitely get rid of alot of programs that are attempting to stay alive. Granted, they may fade eventually anyway. You still cannot help them disintegrate, let the 2 class system work itself out. There are always those underdogs who will come through on random years and that is what makes it fun, most of those undergods would be gone due to rebuilding years.

If anything, force the A champion to move up to AA for the following year or some sort of move like that. This would ensure that you are getting healthy competition in both A and AA. You would not see an A team win back to back to back to back to back to back titles and it would give another team an opportunity from that section to show what they have.

[EREmpireStrikesBack]

Sorry, it isn't gonna happen either way.

[slapshooter]

In my personal opion . I would like to see them try this for a couple years keep class A & AA totally seperate. They could play more teams in there class. Keep all stats in own division.

If you have a rival in opposite class it would just be a scrimmage no points
the winner would have a *astric by team that won the game or games.

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[basconi]

Actually I think the current system is fine. There are probably a few schools in "A" that should or could opt up but that could dilute the talent in class "A" tournament. And there are a few in "AA" that should opt down if possible until programs improve. I think the overall performance of class "A" teams are increasing and their tournament getting to be every bit as good as the "AA".
I was a die hard fan of the one class system but the two class systems I thing offers alot more not just from the teams/players perspective but also from a fan perspective. I get to see alot more talent than I would otherwise see from "AA" programs dominating state tournament entries.
Although I was skeptical of the new seeding formant for the state tournament I now feel it was a good move. Those doing the seeding may not get it exactly right but their pretty close. I never liked seeing the supposedly #1,2,3,4 top ranked teams playing each other in quarter final match ups.

and that my 2 cents worth.

Have A Gooder

[ozzie679]

what about going back to a single tourney and having 16 teams in it?

Absolutely not. The days of the single class tournament are over and not coming back. It was an antiquated system that needed to be changed with the emergence of many more hockey programs.

[center ice]

A change that I would like to see is all private schools should be in the higher class. Most parents put their kids in private schools for the athletics and a chance to go to the state tournament. If a private school starts a new program, let them play in the class they fall into for five years or if they make it to state sooner, move up the following year.
As far as teams in A and AA, if they want to play each other, let them.

[GopherPuckPlayer]

what you are asking in my mind would be horrible, you would loose lots of rival games, that mean so much to the teams, and make the whole year worth waiting for.

[center ice]

[quote]what you are asking in my mind would be horrible, you would loose lots of rival games, that mean so much to the teams, and make the whole year worth waiting for.

What rival games would be missed if all privates played AA? I said if AA teams want to play A teams, let them.[/quote]

[hockeydad]

Most parents put their kids in private schools for the athletics and a chance to go to the state tournament.

Much as I dislike all star teams etc, The above statement is absolutely false. Most parents choose private schools for academics, for faith, etc. I understand that there are some programs that seem to develop all-star teams each year, but Holy Angels, for example, has 30-some boys hockey players in a school of more than 800 students. I know a guy whose son drives 25 miles a day to Holy Angels, and the kid is a hockey player - not a star by any means, but a decent player. What I didnt know until after his kid went there is that there is a strong family history at that school, and the kid's grandpa was once on the board of directors.

And there are lots of private schools that would have no business playing AA....Holy Family, Providence, SPA, the Saints cooperative...heck, in the early 90s, Rochester Lourdes fielded a pretty mediocre hockey team.

What I wouldn't mind seeing is a weighted enrollment for private schools. I think Illinois multiplies enrollment at private schools by 1.6 or something, so that a school with an enrollment of 1,000 would be classified as if it had an enrollment of 1,600. That would put some schools, Totino and St. Thomas, for example, in AA.

[Zamman]

A change that I would like to see is all private schools should be in the higher class. Most parents put their kids in private schools for the athletics and a chance to go to the state tournament. If a private school starts a new program, let them play in the class they fall into for five years or if they make it to state sooner, move up the following year.
As far as teams in A and AA, if they want to play each other, let them.

It is starting to get a little warm in tis topic... Go back and comment on A and AA, which will not be separated by class because of conference play. No 16 team brackets, the format in place is the best one they can have. The only way to improve is too seed all 8 spots, so number 5 does not get matched with number one and number 4 with number 8. 1 v 8, 2 v 7, 3 v 6 and 4 v 5 is the best seeding.