Marshall vs. Virginia 2/5/08

[hawkfan70]

3-1 DM (en)

[pacman]

Marshal Scores a Questionable PowerPlay goal Late (What a Cooincidence, Every where you go, The Refs always favor the Fricken Private School), get an Empty Netter with 7 second left,

DM: 3
V/MIB: 1

[DmnHawk5]

Duluth Marshall being "favored" on the range? rethink that statement. Sometimes questionable things happen, its part of the sport, whether we like it or not.

[rangehockey14]

Anyone know shots or any other stats

[PuckRanger]

Anyone know shots or any other stats

First period the shots were 6-4 in favor of Virginia - No scoring

2nd period Marshall controlled for the last 10 minutes. Shots were 12-2 I beleive. Morsette scored for Marshall about 5 minutes in. Virginia tied it on a Sean Podpeskar goal with 3 seconds left in the period.

3rd Period went scoreless until the goal with 35 seconds left. It was credited to Mausolf. I didn't catch who got the empty netter with less than 1 second left. Shots were 11-7 in favor of Marshall if I heard right.

[7A22A]

Duluth Marshall being "favored" on the range? rethink that statement. Sometimes questionable things happen, its part of the sport, whether we like it or not.

I think DM had twice as many penalties (or so they were called). So, it should not surprising that the Virginia goal was on the PP. They announced 27 shots on the Virginia goal. I think the goalie should get a little more credit than that.

[PuckRanger]

February 5, 2008

Duluth Marshall School 3, Virginia / Mountain Iron - Buhl / Orr 1

Miner's Memorial Building, Virginia -- Zach Mausolf poked the puck past Virginia/MI-B/Orr goalie Will Lustig amidst a scrum in the Virginia crease with 35 seconds left in regulation to spring Duluth Marshall to a 3-1 win. Trent Harris added an empty net goal as time expired to seal the victory. After a scoreless first period, Matt Morsette snapped home a centering pass to give Duluth Marshall a 1-0 lead 5:38 into the second period. Sean Podpeskar knotted the game at one in the final seconds of the period with a powerplay goal for the Blue Devils. Matt Messina stopped 10 shots in goal for the Hilltoppers to gain the victory. Will Lustig took the loss for Virginia, despite a 27 save performance.

Duluth Marshall School 0-1-2=3
Virginia/Mountain Iron-Buhl/Orr 0-1-0=1

First Period - No Scoring.

Second Period - 1. Duluth Marshall School, Matt Morsette (Lanny Olson), 5:38; 2. Virginia/Mountain Iron-Buhl/Orr, Sean Podpeskar (Chris Westin, Chris Stoks), 16:57 (PP).

Third Period - 3. Duluth Marshall School, Zach Mausolf (David Hafferty, Pat Mahoney), 16:25; 4. Duluth Marshall School, Trent Harris (Tom Paine), 16:59 (EN).

Saves - Matt Messina, Duluth Marshall School, 6-1-3=10; Will Lustig, Virginia/Mountain Iron-Buhl/Orr, 4-12-11=27.


This summary provided by www.PrepHockeyNorth.com.

[theref]

So is this where I get to say that Marshall must be slipping like everyone does to the Falls when they only win by one goal against what is considered to be a lesser team?

[mainefan]

What an awsome display of grit by the young Devils! They have nothing to be ashamed of and Marshall should be thanking the hockey gods that they got out of the miners with a win. Playoffs should be very interesting-Just maybe Marshall and the Falls will be ripe for an upset. After all, Virginia is the "lesser" team- right?

[7A22A]

So is this where I get to say that Marshall must be slipping like everyone does to the Falls when they only win by one goal against what is considered to be a lesser team?

Most people are starting to realize that this is one of the top sections in the state. And when you are at #1 the whole state is looking at you and wishing for a fall. People realize that Virginia has a good team and maybe we will hear some of this opinion that you talk about. But there is a difference. The DM close games and losses are not coming from sub .500 teams. Which is more of the case for the Falls.

[snapdog]

Marshall outshoots Virginia 23-4 the last 2 periods and are lucky to get this win? Sounds like a hot goaltender to me. Good for Virginia for playing them tough 1-1 with just a few secs left before Marshall gets the GWG.

[theref]

So is this where I get to say that Marshall must be slipping like everyone does to the Falls when they only win by one goal against what is considered to be a lesser team?

Most people are starting to realize that this is one of the top sections in the state. And when you are at #1 the whole state is looking at you and wishing for a fall. People realize that Virginia has a good team and maybe we will hear some of this opinion that you talk about. But there is a difference. The DM close games and losses are not coming from sub .500 teams. Which is more of the case for the Falls.

So, the Falls plays in section 7, so obviously they play in one of the top sections and their two losses came to Fort Frances and Hibbing. Hibbing is almost always a section 7 contender and Fort Frances had what, 30 games under their belt already while the Falls had 6. Sure, the Falls does have some close games. In a lot of these close games, they are outshooting their opponents 2 or 3-1 and they've run into some hot goaltenders.

I'm not saying Marshall isn't good. I just think it's funny that everyone says that the Falls is slipping because they lose to Hibbing 3-1 and that they don't stand a chance against Marshall, even though Marshall beats Virginia by a score of 3-1, a team the Falls beat 6-3. My point is this, Marshall isn't that much greater than the Falls, regardless of what people say when looking at schedules.

[mainefan]

I'm not saying Marshall isn't good. I just think it's funny that everyone says that the Falls is slipping because they lose to Hibbing 3-1 and that they don't stand a chance against Marshall, even though Marshall beats Virginia by a score of 3-1, a team the Falls beat 6-3. My point is this, Marshall isn't that much greater than the Falls, regardless of what people say when looking at schedules.

I completely agree. They are both showing cracks in their armour!

[BIAFP]

After all, Virginia is the "lesser" team- right?

Why would this year be any different?

[hshckfan08]

So is this where I get to say that Marshall must be slipping like everyone does to the Falls when they only win by one goal against what is considered to be a lesser team?

Most people are starting to realize that this is one of the top sections in the state. And when you are at #1 the whole state is looking at you and wishing for a fall. People realize that Virginia has a good team and maybe we will hear some of this opinion that you talk about. But there is a difference. The DM close games and losses are not coming from sub .500 teams. Which is more of the case for the Falls.

So, the Falls plays in section 7, so obviously they play in one of the top sections and their two losses came to Fort Frances and Hibbing. Hibbing is almost always a section 7 contender and Fort Frances had what, 30 games under their belt already while the Falls had 6. Sure, the Falls does have some close games. In a lot of these close games, they are outshooting their opponents 2 or 3-1 and they've run into some hot goaltenders.

I'm not saying Marshall isn't good. I just think it's funny that everyone says that the Falls is slipping because they lose to Hibbing 3-1 and that they don't stand a chance against Marshall, even though Marshall beats Virginia by a score of 3-1, a team the Falls beat 6-3. My point is this, Marshall isn't that much greater than the Falls, regardless of what people say when looking at schedules.

The only time i remember someone say "Ifalls is slipping" is when they beat Greenway by one when they werent outshooting them 2 or 3-1. The shots were 36-30 in Falls' favor. All four of the top teams- Falls, Marshall, Hibbing, and Virginia have a good shot at the X this season. Falls and Marshall are just slight favorites.

[PuckRanger]

I was very impressed with the defense for both of these teams. There was a lot of dump and chase for both teams in this game. The first shot on goal didn't come until well over 5 minutes into the game, and that was a dump-in from center ice by Marshall.

Marshall needs to stay out of the box - they were lucky they didn't pick up majors on three possible checking-from-behind penalties that were called cross-checking. A few of the penalties they took were acceptable, and I'll give Marshall credit that they did not let Chris Westin beat them. He had gotten through or around the Marshall defense a few times and every time, they took him down - they were penalties, but I'd take my chances on the penalty kill over a Westin breakaway. I was impressed with their penalty kill - very aggressive and only gave up one or two good scoring opportunities and just one goal despite being shorthanded for eleven plus minutes.

Virginia will be fine if they don't panic and start running around and throwing blind passes around in their own zone like they began to do in the second period. Virginia was fortunate to come out of that period tied. Although for the most part, they still managed to keep most of the Marshall shots from bad angles and from a ways out.

As far as the game-winning goal was concerned, I could not see the puck - and never did see it go in. It was thrown at the side of the net by a Marshall player and it looked like it was under the pads of the Virginia goalie, but the whistle never went. After a few seconds of pushing and shoving and poking and prodding, the puck found its way over the goal line. I still don't know how, I just couldn't see it from where I was sitting. The goal light did not come on. When I looked up at the light (which is right beneath the goal judge who has a bird's-eye view of the goal on that end of the ice) when the whistle blew, I couldn't help but notice the goal judge was shaking his head as if he was in disbelief that the whistle he heard was for a goal and not for a frozen puck. The other two officials immediately skated to the official behind the goal who signalled that it was a goal and after a discussion, they awarded the goal and then faced the ire of the Virginia coaching staff. This all happened as a Virginia penalty expired, by the way - it officially went down as an even strength goal, but the Virginia player had not gotten back in the play from the penalty box.

Should it have counted? I don't know for sure - because like I said, I couldn't see it from where I was. My initial response was that it was frozen (and that's whay I couldn't see it), but there were seven or eight bodies in there and I was sitting on the blue line, four rows up. Marshall should feel very fortunate that they got this call, because it very easily could have been blown dead a few seconds earlier and no one would have questioned it. If that would have happened, it probably would have ended in a 1-1 tie because of the defensive play in this game.

Its too bad it had to end like that. I would have much preferred a cleaner goal that put somebody's skills on display that wasn't wearing a striped jersey.

My final comment will be about the ice - Both the second and third periods started with puddles of water on the east end of the rink in front of the goal and they even had to stop play 20 seconds into the second to let it freeze a little more. It appeared the puck was sticking all night on both teams. At the end of the third period, you would have needed to lift the puck from end-to-end to get an icing call. (This did lead to the empty net goal, by the way as Marshall tried to ice it with about 15 seconds left and the Virginia players didn't chase it right away until the puck came to a screaching halt about three feet short of the end line.) I've seen better ice outdoors at the end of March.

[PuckRanger]

Marshall outshoots Virginia 23-4 the last 2 periods and are lucky to get this win? Sounds like a hot goaltender to me.

Not really. Lustig was solid and had a few nice saves, but 23 shots in two periods isn't out of the ordinary for any goaltender to face - and two did go in and one went in an empty net, which is around a 90% saves percentage - right near his average. Most of the shots were not from what I would call grade A scoring position - although Marshall has a couple guys who can rifle it from the point. It just looks worse because of the low shot total Virginia put up.

[7A22A]

As far as the second goal. PuckRanger, I know you see a lot of hockey and I agree with most of what you say. But, I can tell you that the red light did come on with the ref directly behind the net pointing to the net for a goal. I do not know exactly how this coincided with the whistle, or even if there was a whistle, and that must be what you are saying. I do not know where the puck was for the couple seconds of the mayhem. I assume it was laying in visual sight of the ref that was behind the net and the ref on the right side of the goal and on the goal line (they were in the correct position-this time). DM's - Mausolf was pushed by a Virginia player from the back and took one step into the righthand side of the crease and then tried to, or stepped back out. He did not interfere with the goalie. At what swipe of the puck and when it went in; I could not tell you. I know that the Virginia coaches were not happy (I did hear them), but they did not specifically say something about a whistle going off or a player in the crease from what I could tell. Just what I saw and heard. Anyway, good luck to Virginia from here on out. Just glad to be outta there.

[PuckRanger]

As far as the second goal. PuckRanger, I know you see a lot of hockey and I agree with most of what you say. But, I can tell you that the red light did come on with the ref directly behind the net pointing to the net for a goal. I do not know exactly how this coincided with the whistle, or even if there was a whistle, and that must be what you are saying. I do not know where the puck was for the couple seconds of the mayhem. I assume it was laying in visual sight of the ref that was behind the net and the ref on the right side of the goal and on the goal line (they were in the correct position-this time). DM's - Mausolf was pushed by a Virginia player from the back and took one step into the righthand side of the crease and then tried to, or stepped back out. He did not interfere with the goalie. At what swipe of the puck and when it went in; I could not tell you. I know that the Virginia coaches were not happy (I did hear them), but they did not specifically say something about a whistle going off or a player in the crease from what I could tell. Just what I saw and heard. Anyway, good luck to Virginia from here on out. Just glad to be outta there.

I must have looked away too quickly to see what the other officials were doing and missed the light... I don't think I would have missed it - its a large siren style light! But I guess that's irrelevant.

If the Virginia coaching staff was griping about players in the crease or goaltender interference, they have no case. The puck was definitely in the crease and the offense can go in and go after it all they want. I assumed they were complaining about the whistle - or lack there of. The murmers in the Virginia side of the arena were that the play should have been blown dead. Never heard anyone mention players in the crease, and I never even considered that either.

[fromdanorth]

sorry not trying to get off the topic but why did marshal and hermantown switch sections?

[PuckRanger]

sorry not trying to get off the topic but why did marshal and hermantown switch sections?

Apparently, the Minnesota State High School League thinks its fun to shift the Duluth area schools around. Duluth Denfeld, Duluth Central, Duluth Marshall, Proctor, and Hermantown have all been in and out of 7A since the two class split. Most have been moved in and out more than once. I personally never did and still don't understand the logic. It certainly isn't done because of distance.

[mainefan]

After all, Virginia is the "lesser" team- right?

Why would this year be any different?

Love this talk- just fires the boys up!

[PuckRanger]

Had to do a double-take when I read this... From Wednesday's Mesabi Daily News in a column where the writer was talking about Bill Belichick leaving the field early and dodging reporters after the Patriots lost the superbowl:

I can compare that to a high school hockey game I covered years ago with Virginia/Mountain Iron-Buhl beating Duluth Marshall at Mars Lakeview Arena in Duluth.

Following the Blue Devils’ victory, the Hilltoppers coach would not come out of the locker room to be interviewed. Not a surprise at that time. It must have been a bad recruiting year.

But at least that coach stayed on the bench until the final horn. I will give him credit for that.

By the way Marshall fans, I did not write it, so please don't shoot the messenger!

[hshckfan08]

Ha ouch. Same ol' Same ol'