Roseau or Edina? Whos the best?

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Who is the cream of the crop?

Roseau Rams
115
66%
Edina hornets
59
34%
 
Total votes: 174

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Post by Neutron 14 »

BIAFP wrote:
Neutron 14 wrote:
BIAFP wrote:Just another soft Metro team for the Rams to put in the "loser" category :roll:
What does it say when you need the refs help to beat a soft team? :lol:
Just another Metro casualty :lol:
Fair enough!
The only soft spot I see is the one between my legs
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Re: Player Rankings

Post by halla »

The_Phantom_Enigma wrote:The following comes from dent0110's geocities site...

ROSEAU's TOP RANKED PLAYERS:

SOPHOMORE:
forwards
--> #1. Adam Knochenmus
defense
--> N/A
goalies
--> N/A

JUNIOR:
forwards
--> #1. Tyler Landman
--> #6. Nick Oliver
defense
--> #1. Aaron Ness
--> #11. Ryan Weston
goalies
--> #1. Mike Lee

SENIOR
forwards
--> #6. Dustin Moser
--> #7. Ben Nelson
defense
--> N/A
goalies
--> N/A

TOTAL: 8 players

RANKED IN TOP 10: 7 PLAYERS

INFO: Four #1 ranked players.


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EDINA's TOP RANKED PLAYERS:

SOPHOMORE:
forwards
--> N/A
defense
--> #17. David Jarrett
goalies
--> N/A

JUNIOR:
forwards
--> #3. Marshall Everson
--> #4. Zach Budish
--> #10. Connor Gaarder
--> #11. Anders Lee
defense
--> #7. Patrick Regan
goalies
--> N/A

SENIOR
forwards
--> #16. Casey Gaarder
--> #20. Matt Leer
defense
--> #2. Joe Gleason
goalies
--> #5. Derrick Caschetta

TOTAL: 10 players

RANKED IN TOP 10: 5

INFO: 2 of the Top 5 Junior Forwards.

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I know individual talent only goes so far... but i thought this would be an interesting thing to view and give you fella's something to argue about... 8)

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I'll start out by saying I know a lot about Edina's players and little about other teams' players (and there's plenty that I know nothing about). So I speak only from what I know.

I'd say that Lee should be ahead of Gaarder (though a top ten spot for Gaarder seems quite reasonable). In fact, I'd find it plausible to see Budish, Lee, and Everson as the top three junior forwards. I wonder why I haven't heard more about Landman if he is the top junior forward--but it is true that talented guys sometimes fly a bit under the radar, so I will not dispute it.

Also, it's too bad they've forgotten Baker, who is even better than Regan.
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Re: Player Rankings

Post by The_Phantom_Enigma »

halla wrote:
The_Phantom_Enigma wrote:The following comes from dent0110's geocities site...

ROSEAU's TOP RANKED PLAYERS:

SOPHOMORE:
forwards
--> #1. Adam Knochenmus
defense
--> N/A
goalies
--> N/A

JUNIOR:
forwards
--> #1. Tyler Landman
--> #6. Nick Oliver
defense
--> #1. Aaron Ness
--> #11. Ryan Weston
goalies
--> #1. Mike Lee

SENIOR
forwards
--> #6. Dustin Moser
--> #7. Ben Nelson
defense
--> N/A
goalies
--> N/A

TOTAL: 8 players

RANKED IN TOP 10: 7 PLAYERS

INFO: Four #1 ranked players.


======================================


EDINA's TOP RANKED PLAYERS:

SOPHOMORE:
forwards
--> N/A
defense
--> #17. David Jarrett
goalies
--> N/A

JUNIOR:
forwards
--> #3. Marshall Everson
--> #4. Zach Budish
--> #10. Connor Gaarder
--> #11. Anders Lee
defense
--> #7. Patrick Regan
goalies
--> N/A

SENIOR
forwards
--> #16. Casey Gaarder
--> #20. Matt Leer
defense
--> #2. Joe Gleason
goalies
--> #5. Derrick Caschetta

TOTAL: 10 players

RANKED IN TOP 10: 5

INFO: 2 of the Top 5 Junior Forwards.

==========

I know individual talent only goes so far... but i thought this would be an interesting thing to view and give you fella's something to argue about... 8)

Image
I'll start out by saying I know a lot about Edina's players and little about other teams' players (and there's plenty that I know nothing about). So I speak only from what I know.

I'd say that Lee should be ahead of Gaarder (though a top ten spot for Gaarder seems quite reasonable). In fact, I'd find it plausible to see Budish, Lee, and Everson as the top three junior forwards. I wonder why I haven't heard more about Landman if he is the top junior forward--but it is true that talented guys sometimes fly a bit under the radar, so I will not dispute it.

Also, it's too bad they've forgotten Baker, who is even better than Regan.
Yeah, I would also have expected Fabian to at least be on the list. And Sophomore Kevin Erickson somewhere on his respective list
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Post by labattblue17 »

Baker is rated the #4 junior defenceman as of right now
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Post by The_Phantom_Enigma »

labattblue17 wrote:Baker is rated the #4 junior defenceman as of right now
My bad, haha! I'll change that right now!
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Re: Player Rankings

Post by wingmaster »

The_Phantom_Enigma wrote:The following comes from dent0110's geocities site...

ROSEAU's TOP RANKED PLAYERS:

SOPHOMORE:
forwards
--> #1. Adam Knochenmus
defense
--> N/A
goalies
--> N/A

JUNIOR:
forwards
--> #1. Tyler Landman
--> #6. Nick Oliver
defense
--> #1. Aaron Ness
--> #11. Ryan Weston
goalies
--> #1. Mike Lee

SENIOR
forwards
--> #6. Dustin Moser
--> #7. Ben Nelson
defense
--> N/A
goalies
--> N/A

TOTAL: 8 players

RANKED IN TOP 10: 7 PLAYERS

INFO: Four #1 ranked players.


======================================


EDINA's TOP RANKED PLAYERS:

SOPHOMORE:
forwards
--> N/A
defense
--> #17. David Jarrett
goalies
--> N/A

JUNIOR:
forwards
--> #3. Marshall Everson
--> #4. Zach Budish
--> #10. Connor Gaarder
--> #11. Anders Lee
defense
--> #4. Brendan Baker
--> #7. Patrick Regan
goalies
--> N/A

SENIOR
forwards
--> #16. Casey Gaarder
--> #20. Matt Leer
defense
--> #2. Joe Gleason
goalies
--> #5. Derrick Caschetta

TOTAL: 11 players

RANKED IN TOP 10: 6

INFO: 2 of the Top 5 Junior Forwards.

==========

I know individual talent only goes so far... but i thought this would be an interesting thing to view and give you fella's something to argue about... 8)

Image



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Re: Player Rankings

Post by The_Phantom_Enigma »

wingmaster wrote:
The_Phantom_Enigma wrote:The following comes from dent0110's geocities site...

ROSEAU's TOP RANKED PLAYERS:

SOPHOMORE:
forwards
--> #1. Adam Knochenmus
defense
--> N/A
goalies
--> N/A

JUNIOR:
forwards
--> #1. Tyler Landman
--> #6. Nick Oliver
defense
--> #1. Aaron Ness
--> #11. Ryan Weston
goalies
--> #1. Mike Lee

SENIOR
forwards
--> #6. Dustin Moser
--> #7. Ben Nelson
defense
--> N/A
goalies
--> N/A

TOTAL: 8 players

RANKED IN TOP 10: 7 PLAYERS

INFO: Four #1 ranked players.


======================================


EDINA's TOP RANKED PLAYERS:

SOPHOMORE:
forwards
--> N/A
defense
--> #17. David Jarrett
goalies
--> N/A

JUNIOR:
forwards
--> #3. Marshall Everson
--> #4. Zach Budish
--> #10. Connor Gaarder
--> #11. Anders Lee
defense
--> #4. Brendan Baker
--> #7. Patrick Regan
goalies
--> N/A

SENIOR
forwards
--> #16. Casey Gaarder
--> #20. Matt Leer
defense
--> #2. Joe Gleason
goalies
--> #5. Derrick Caschetta

TOTAL: 11 players

RANKED IN TOP 10: 6

INFO: 2 of the Top 5 Junior Forwards.

==========

I know individual talent only goes so far... but i thought this would be an interesting thing to view and give you fella's something to argue about... 8)

Image



Can you help me with my taxes sometime? :lol:
can't do it............ \:D/
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Post by Fargo »

Looking at common opponent Buffalo
Rams 3- Sabres -0
Hornets 9 Bison -1

Hornets 3x better on scoring (9/3 = 3)
Rams infinitly better on D (1/0 = undefined, approaching infinity)
(Also Rams played the better Buffalo team. :lol: Who says Rams schedule is "Soft")

Approaching Infinity >>>> 3x

Therefore, must go with Rams. (It is the new Math).

Guess we will all hope that we get to see this matchup March 8 at ~7pm). :wink:
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not so fast my friend

Post by O-townClown »

Fargo wrote:Looking at common opponent Buffalo
Rams 3- Sabres -0
Hornets 9 Bison -1

Hornets 3x better on scoring (9/3 = 3)
Rams infinitly better on D (1/0 = undefined, approaching infinity)
(Also Rams played the better Buffalo team. :lol: Who says Rams schedule is "Soft")
The goal in hockey isn't to entirely prevent the opponent from scoring, it is to score more goals than your opponent.

Edina's margin of 8 is more than twice Roseau's margin of 3. I think you've overthought this.
Be kind. Rewind.
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Re: not so fast my friend

Post by Can't Never Tried »

O-townClown wrote:
Fargo wrote:Looking at common opponent Buffalo
Rams 3- Sabres -0
Hornets 9 Bison -1

Hornets 3x better on scoring (9/3 = 3)
Rams infinitly better on D (1/0 = undefined, approaching infinity)
(Also Rams played the better Buffalo team. :lol: Who says Rams schedule is "Soft")
The goal in hockey isn't to entirely prevent the opponent from scoring, it is to score more goals than your opponent.

Edina's margin of 8 is more than twice Roseau's margin of 3. I think you've overthought this.
I think he was having fun with it :lol: :lol:
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Post by Slap Shot »

O-townClown wrote:The goal in hockey isn't to entirely prevent the opponent from scoring, it is to score more goals than your opponent.

Edina's margin of 8 is more than twice Roseau's margin of 3. I think you've overthought this.
If the goal is merely to score more than your opponent than Edina's margin compared to Roseau's is irrelevant. I think you overthought that.
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Post by The_Phantom_Enigma »

Slap Shot wrote:
O-townClown wrote:The goal in hockey isn't to entirely prevent the opponent from scoring, it is to score more goals than your opponent.

Edina's margin of 8 is more than twice Roseau's margin of 3. I think you've overthought this.
If the goal is merely to score more than your opponent than Edina's margin compared to Roseau's is irrelevant. I think you overthought that.
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Post by BIAFP »

If you go by strength of schedule, Edina is much better. I have yet to see that trophy for strength of schedule however :roll:
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Post by gatzke »

BIAFP wrote:If you go by strength of schedule, Edina is much better. I have yet to see that trophy for strength of schedule however :roll:
I will agree Edina has a tougher schedule, however the purpose of the game is to win against your single opponent at that very moment. Edina has done this very well, but the Rams have done it better. Yes, Edina has beaten better opponents than Roseau has, but they have also lost to more. You can't knock a team that goes out and gets it done EVERY time. but you can't say they are better than Edina until they have met face to face. Looking forward to March
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Post by gottago »

Let's just hope they get a chance to settle it on the ice in the state final. Not much left now short of not getting out of sections that should change them from 1 & 2 seeds at the tourney but a tough road to get there, especially in Edina's section.
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Post by pistol »

You guys are real close... right colors... wrong team.
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Post by Cornbread »

And the Pats were suppose to beat the Giants based on strength of schedule and ranking and who they each played and how much they beat them by...........oops......how did that work out for the Pats? Not to good, lets see what happens on the ice on any given day........both of them may not make it! And thats all I got to say about that, other then lets all have a Colorado Bulldog and cant we all just get along!
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Post by The_Phantom_Enigma »

Cornbread wrote:And the Pats were suppose to beat the Giants based on strength of schedule and ranking and who they each played and how much they beat them by...........oops......how did that work out for the Pats? Not to good, lets see what happens on the ice on any given day........both of them may not make it! And thats all I got to say about that, other then lets all have a Colorado Bulldog and cant we all just get along!
AGREED!! This is Minnesota, we cant let a few disagreements betwen Citiots and Nort'eners come between our rights as Minnesota citizens to preserve "Minnesota Nice".... :shock:


It just seemed like that needed to be said. I, personally, could care less as long as the hockey's good!
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Post by fiveforfighting »

Both teams are amazing and will be there around touney time. will be a fun match-up
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Post by Fargo »

pistol wrote:You guys are real close... right colors... wrong team.
Pistol you are so SMRT! :lol: The Tartan loss and SSP tie, 3 or 4 goal loss to Tonka make the PIONEERS much better than the Hornets and Rams. :roll:
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Post by Can't Never Tried »

Fargo wrote:
pistol wrote:You guys are real close... right colors... wrong team.
Pistol you are so SMRT! :lol: The Tartan loss and SSP tie, 3 or 4 goal loss to Tonka make the PIONEERS much better than the Hornets and Rams. :roll:
He's just another poster with Green on the brain! :lol:
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Post by 61ache »

After the Falls and GR games Roseau will have played every quality team within a 300 mile radius. Next step State Tourney Time. I can smell the playoffs already....mmm tangy
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Post by halla »

61ache wrote:After the Falls and GR games Roseau will have played every quality team within a 300 mile radius. Next step State Tourney Time. I can smell the playoffs already....mmm tangy
Huh -- I always thought it smelled like mini-donuts.
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Post by Green and White Fan »

Roseau shuts out PS2 #7 Blaine, 1-0 and gets ripped on. Edina gives up 3 goals and sneaks out a 4-3 win over PS2 #26 Hopkins and no one mentions it??
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Post by BIAFP »

Green and White Fan wrote:Roseau shuts out PS2 #7 Blaine, 1-0 and gets ripped on. Edina gives up 3 goals and sneaks out a 4-3 win over PS2 #26 Hopkins and no one mentions it.

That is because Edina hung the 2008 strength of schedule banner already. The rings and medals are on order :roll:
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