Fair enough!BIAFP wrote:Just another Metro casualtyNeutron 14 wrote:What does it say when you need the refs help to beat a soft team?BIAFP wrote:Just another soft Metro team for the Rams to put in the "loser" category
Roseau or Edina? Whos the best?
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Re: Player Rankings
I'll start out by saying I know a lot about Edina's players and little about other teams' players (and there's plenty that I know nothing about). So I speak only from what I know.The_Phantom_Enigma wrote:The following comes from dent0110's geocities site...
ROSEAU's TOP RANKED PLAYERS:
SOPHOMORE:
forwards
--> #1. Adam Knochenmus
defense
--> N/A
goalies
--> N/A
JUNIOR:
forwards
--> #1. Tyler Landman
--> #6. Nick Oliver
defense
--> #1. Aaron Ness
--> #11. Ryan Weston
goalies
--> #1. Mike Lee
SENIOR
forwards
--> #6. Dustin Moser
--> #7. Ben Nelson
defense
--> N/A
goalies
--> N/A
TOTAL: 8 players
RANKED IN TOP 10: 7 PLAYERS
INFO: Four #1 ranked players.
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EDINA's TOP RANKED PLAYERS:
SOPHOMORE:
forwards
--> N/A
defense
--> #17. David Jarrett
goalies
--> N/A
JUNIOR:
forwards
--> #3. Marshall Everson
--> #4. Zach Budish
--> #10. Connor Gaarder
--> #11. Anders Lee
defense
--> #7. Patrick Regan
goalies
--> N/A
SENIOR
forwards
--> #16. Casey Gaarder
--> #20. Matt Leer
defense
--> #2. Joe Gleason
goalies
--> #5. Derrick Caschetta
TOTAL: 10 players
RANKED IN TOP 10: 5
INFO: 2 of the Top 5 Junior Forwards.
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I know individual talent only goes so far... but i thought this would be an interesting thing to view and give you fella's something to argue about...![]()
I'd say that Lee should be ahead of Gaarder (though a top ten spot for Gaarder seems quite reasonable). In fact, I'd find it plausible to see Budish, Lee, and Everson as the top three junior forwards. I wonder why I haven't heard more about Landman if he is the top junior forward--but it is true that talented guys sometimes fly a bit under the radar, so I will not dispute it.
Also, it's too bad they've forgotten Baker, who is even better than Regan.
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Re: Player Rankings
Yeah, I would also have expected Fabian to at least be on the list. And Sophomore Kevin Erickson somewhere on his respective listhalla wrote:I'll start out by saying I know a lot about Edina's players and little about other teams' players (and there's plenty that I know nothing about). So I speak only from what I know.The_Phantom_Enigma wrote:The following comes from dent0110's geocities site...
ROSEAU's TOP RANKED PLAYERS:
SOPHOMORE:
forwards
--> #1. Adam Knochenmus
defense
--> N/A
goalies
--> N/A
JUNIOR:
forwards
--> #1. Tyler Landman
--> #6. Nick Oliver
defense
--> #1. Aaron Ness
--> #11. Ryan Weston
goalies
--> #1. Mike Lee
SENIOR
forwards
--> #6. Dustin Moser
--> #7. Ben Nelson
defense
--> N/A
goalies
--> N/A
TOTAL: 8 players
RANKED IN TOP 10: 7 PLAYERS
INFO: Four #1 ranked players.
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EDINA's TOP RANKED PLAYERS:
SOPHOMORE:
forwards
--> N/A
defense
--> #17. David Jarrett
goalies
--> N/A
JUNIOR:
forwards
--> #3. Marshall Everson
--> #4. Zach Budish
--> #10. Connor Gaarder
--> #11. Anders Lee
defense
--> #7. Patrick Regan
goalies
--> N/A
SENIOR
forwards
--> #16. Casey Gaarder
--> #20. Matt Leer
defense
--> #2. Joe Gleason
goalies
--> #5. Derrick Caschetta
TOTAL: 10 players
RANKED IN TOP 10: 5
INFO: 2 of the Top 5 Junior Forwards.
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I know individual talent only goes so far... but i thought this would be an interesting thing to view and give you fella's something to argue about...![]()
I'd say that Lee should be ahead of Gaarder (though a top ten spot for Gaarder seems quite reasonable). In fact, I'd find it plausible to see Budish, Lee, and Everson as the top three junior forwards. I wonder why I haven't heard more about Landman if he is the top junior forward--but it is true that talented guys sometimes fly a bit under the radar, so I will not dispute it.
Also, it's too bad they've forgotten Baker, who is even better than Regan.
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Re: Player Rankings
The_Phantom_Enigma wrote:The following comes from dent0110's geocities site...
ROSEAU's TOP RANKED PLAYERS:
SOPHOMORE:
forwards
--> #1. Adam Knochenmus
defense
--> N/A
goalies
--> N/A
JUNIOR:
forwards
--> #1. Tyler Landman
--> #6. Nick Oliver
defense
--> #1. Aaron Ness
--> #11. Ryan Weston
goalies
--> #1. Mike Lee
SENIOR
forwards
--> #6. Dustin Moser
--> #7. Ben Nelson
defense
--> N/A
goalies
--> N/A
TOTAL: 8 players
RANKED IN TOP 10: 7 PLAYERS
INFO: Four #1 ranked players.
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EDINA's TOP RANKED PLAYERS:
SOPHOMORE:
forwards
--> N/A
defense
--> #17. David Jarrett
goalies
--> N/A
JUNIOR:
forwards
--> #3. Marshall Everson
--> #4. Zach Budish
--> #10. Connor Gaarder
--> #11. Anders Lee
defense
--> #4. Brendan Baker
--> #7. Patrick Regan
goalies
--> N/A
SENIOR
forwards
--> #16. Casey Gaarder
--> #20. Matt Leer
defense
--> #2. Joe Gleason
goalies
--> #5. Derrick Caschetta
TOTAL: 11 players
RANKED IN TOP 10: 6
INFO: 2 of the Top 5 Junior Forwards.
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I know individual talent only goes so far... but i thought this would be an interesting thing to view and give you fella's something to argue about...![]()
Can you help me with my taxes sometime?

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Re: Player Rankings
can't do it............wingmaster wrote:The_Phantom_Enigma wrote:The following comes from dent0110's geocities site...
ROSEAU's TOP RANKED PLAYERS:
SOPHOMORE:
forwards
--> #1. Adam Knochenmus
defense
--> N/A
goalies
--> N/A
JUNIOR:
forwards
--> #1. Tyler Landman
--> #6. Nick Oliver
defense
--> #1. Aaron Ness
--> #11. Ryan Weston
goalies
--> #1. Mike Lee
SENIOR
forwards
--> #6. Dustin Moser
--> #7. Ben Nelson
defense
--> N/A
goalies
--> N/A
TOTAL: 8 players
RANKED IN TOP 10: 7 PLAYERS
INFO: Four #1 ranked players.
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EDINA's TOP RANKED PLAYERS:
SOPHOMORE:
forwards
--> N/A
defense
--> #17. David Jarrett
goalies
--> N/A
JUNIOR:
forwards
--> #3. Marshall Everson
--> #4. Zach Budish
--> #10. Connor Gaarder
--> #11. Anders Lee
defense
--> #4. Brendan Baker
--> #7. Patrick Regan
goalies
--> N/A
SENIOR
forwards
--> #16. Casey Gaarder
--> #20. Matt Leer
defense
--> #2. Joe Gleason
goalies
--> #5. Derrick Caschetta
TOTAL: 11 players
RANKED IN TOP 10: 6
INFO: 2 of the Top 5 Junior Forwards.
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I know individual talent only goes so far... but i thought this would be an interesting thing to view and give you fella's something to argue about...![]()
Can you help me with my taxes sometime?

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Looking at common opponent Buffalo
Rams 3- Sabres -0
Hornets 9 Bison -1
Hornets 3x better on scoring (9/3 = 3)
Rams infinitly better on D (1/0 = undefined, approaching infinity)
(Also Rams played the better Buffalo team.
Who says Rams schedule is "Soft")
Approaching Infinity >>>> 3x
Therefore, must go with Rams. (It is the new Math).
Guess we will all hope that we get to see this matchup March 8 at ~7pm).
Rams 3- Sabres -0
Hornets 9 Bison -1
Hornets 3x better on scoring (9/3 = 3)
Rams infinitly better on D (1/0 = undefined, approaching infinity)
(Also Rams played the better Buffalo team.

Approaching Infinity >>>> 3x
Therefore, must go with Rams. (It is the new Math).
Guess we will all hope that we get to see this matchup March 8 at ~7pm).

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not so fast my friend
The goal in hockey isn't to entirely prevent the opponent from scoring, it is to score more goals than your opponent.Fargo wrote:Looking at common opponent Buffalo
Rams 3- Sabres -0
Hornets 9 Bison -1
Hornets 3x better on scoring (9/3 = 3)
Rams infinitly better on D (1/0 = undefined, approaching infinity)
(Also Rams played the better Buffalo team.Who says Rams schedule is "Soft")
Edina's margin of 8 is more than twice Roseau's margin of 3. I think you've overthought this.
Be kind. Rewind.
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Re: not so fast my friend
I think he was having fun with itO-townClown wrote:The goal in hockey isn't to entirely prevent the opponent from scoring, it is to score more goals than your opponent.Fargo wrote:Looking at common opponent Buffalo
Rams 3- Sabres -0
Hornets 9 Bison -1
Hornets 3x better on scoring (9/3 = 3)
Rams infinitly better on D (1/0 = undefined, approaching infinity)
(Also Rams played the better Buffalo team.Who says Rams schedule is "Soft")
Edina's margin of 8 is more than twice Roseau's margin of 3. I think you've overthought this.


If the goal is merely to score more than your opponent than Edina's margin compared to Roseau's is irrelevant. I think you overthought that.O-townClown wrote:The goal in hockey isn't to entirely prevent the opponent from scoring, it is to score more goals than your opponent.
Edina's margin of 8 is more than twice Roseau's margin of 3. I think you've overthought this.
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aahh, vurry wise!Slap Shot wrote:If the goal is merely to score more than your opponent than Edina's margin compared to Roseau's is irrelevant. I think you overthought that.O-townClown wrote:The goal in hockey isn't to entirely prevent the opponent from scoring, it is to score more goals than your opponent.
Edina's margin of 8 is more than twice Roseau's margin of 3. I think you've overthought this.
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I will agree Edina has a tougher schedule, however the purpose of the game is to win against your single opponent at that very moment. Edina has done this very well, but the Rams have done it better. Yes, Edina has beaten better opponents than Roseau has, but they have also lost to more. You can't knock a team that goes out and gets it done EVERY time. but you can't say they are better than Edina until they have met face to face. Looking forward to MarchBIAFP wrote:If you go by strength of schedule, Edina is much better. I have yet to see that trophy for strength of schedule however
And the Pats were suppose to beat the Giants based on strength of schedule and ranking and who they each played and how much they beat them by...........oops......how did that work out for the Pats? Not to good, lets see what happens on the ice on any given day........both of them may not make it! And thats all I got to say about that, other then lets all have a Colorado Bulldog and cant we all just get along!
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AGREED!! This is Minnesota, we cant let a few disagreements betwen Citiots and Nort'eners come between our rights as Minnesota citizens to preserve "Minnesota Nice"....Cornbread wrote:And the Pats were suppose to beat the Giants based on strength of schedule and ranking and who they each played and how much they beat them by...........oops......how did that work out for the Pats? Not to good, lets see what happens on the ice on any given day........both of them may not make it! And thats all I got to say about that, other then lets all have a Colorado Bulldog and cant we all just get along!

It just seemed like that needed to be said. I, personally, could care less as long as the hockey's good!
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Green and White Fan wrote:Roseau shuts out PS2 #7 Blaine, 1-0 and gets ripped on. Edina gives up 3 goals and sneaks out a 4-3 win over PS2 #26 Hopkins and no one mentions it.
That is because Edina hung the 2008 strength of schedule banner already. The rings and medals are on order

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