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[niceice909]

your all right i agree you should definally wear them i was just trying to stir things up a bit but personally i think there annoying and i wish i would wear one

[flameofshame69]

Marty:
Wake up & smell the coffee, then talk to us about all those neckguard facts you have!

Disregard what he said, he has no clue what he's talking about.

[PanthersIn2011]

To all of you who are ripping Marty for saying they don't work, here is some food for thought:

USA Hockey is conducting research to determine if neck guards really work. Dr. Michael Stuart, professor of Orthopedic Surgery at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., is the Chief Medical Officer for USA Hockey and a member of the safety and protective equipment committee.

Stuart, a big reason why facial protection is mandated in the American Hockey League, got interested in neck guards on Halloween 11 years ago when his oldest son, Mike, sustained a severe neck laceration while playing hockey at Colorado College.

"We are very concerned because we know how catastrophic of an injury this can be," Stuart said. "We're trying to do everything we can to study everything we can to make recommendations based on scientific research.

"USA Hockey hasn't mandated (neck guards) yet. Maybe it's the right thing to do, but maybe it isn't."

Recently, 417,000 surveys were e-mailed to USA Hockey registrants. Members were asked if they had ever experienced or witnessed a neck laceration, and if they had, was the person wearing a "neck laceration protector."

"More people than you'd think have suffered neck lacerations," Stuart said. "Often these don't sever the carotid artery or other vital structures, but these are very frightening experiences. And many times, the person is wearing a neck laceration protector.

"Some (neck guards) don't cover your entire neck. In fact, some vulnerable areas are left uncovered. Some also fear that the skate blade can actually deflect off the protector to more vulnerable areas. So before we recommend a specific neck laceration protector, we'd like to have one that's proven to be effective."

Full article is http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sport ... _0212.html

[hiptzech]

To all of you who are ripping Marty for saying they don't work, here is some food for thought:

" Stuart said. "We're trying to do everything we can to study everything we can to make recommendations based on scientific research.

It’s a good thing that bubble bees didn’t wait for scientific proof that they could fly…

According to 20th century folklore, the laws of aerodynamics prove that the bumblebee should be incapable of flight, as it does not have the capacity (in terms of wing size or beat per second) to achieve flight with the degree of wing loading necessary. Not being aware of scientists 'proving' it cannot fly, the bumblebee succeeds under "the power of its own arrogance".The origin of this myth has been difficult to pin down with any certainty. John McMasters recounted an anecdote about an unnamed Swiss aerodynamicist at a dinner party who performed some rough calculations and concluded, presumably in jest, that according to the equations, bumblebees cannot fly. In later years McMasters has backed away from this origin, suggesting that there could be multiple sources, and that the earliest he has found was a reference in the 1934 French book Le vol des insectes by M. Magnan. Magnan is reported to have written that he and a Mr. Saint-Lague had applied the equations of air resistance to insects and found that their flight was impossible, but that "One shouldn't be surprised that the results of the calculations don't square with reality". It is believed that the calculations which purported to show that bumblebees cannot fly are based upon a simplified linear treatment of oscillating aerofoils. The method assumes small amplitude oscillations without flow separation. This ignores the effect of dynamic stall, an airflow separation inducing a large vortex above the wing, which briefly produces several times the lift of the aerofoil in regular flight. More sophisticated aerodynamic analysis shows that the bumblebee can fly because its wings encounter dynamic stall in every oscillation cycle.

I have attached the link below.

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:e7 ... cd=1&gl=us

[whockeyguy]

Mayo Clinic doing a study again, these are the same people that gave us the Fair Play point, stick to being the Doctors ,your the best at that hands down.
As for the neck all you have to do is see it first hand and you will never let the kids on the rink without it,this should be wake up call to everybody.

[mnreferee1]

I wish you protective parents would be as diligent about your player wearing a mouthgaurd. More players are permently affected by the multiple concussions they receive as the result of not properly wearing a mouthgaurd. I guess it is only important if it involves blood and a visible injury.

[Air Force 1]

I wish you protective parents would be as diligent about your player wearing a mouthgaurd. More players are permently affected by the multiple concussions they receive as the result of not properly wearing a mouthgaurd. I guess it is only important if it involves blood and a visible injury.

I am.

[Air Force 1]

KVLY TV out of Fargo just ran a piece that Grand Forks has announced that all their 700 hockey players will have to wear neck guards starting next year and other unnamed associations are considering the requirement.

Way to go Grand Forks!

It has been something that is catching on some in EGF too, not only on the Pee Wee team where our player was cut earlier this year, but many squirts are doing it voluntarily.

[GF Hockey #2]

Wow I haven't heard that, But it doesn't matter to me. I guess the kids will have to get used to it. There is one kid on our team that wears one.

I know I looked at them once because one of my kids took a stick to the neck and he said that he should get one but we never did end up buying one.