Eden Prairie: Student Walk Out to Athletic Fall Out

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goalzilla
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Post by goalzilla »

Recently, I saw a news report on some D1 college athletic programs talking about MYSpace and Facebook accounts. The schools had some picts show up on the web of some of their players in comprimising positions. What the colleges did was institute a requirement that you had to sign a Players contract much like our kids to today, but it has a little something extra in it. By signing the contract you agree to NOT have a MYSpace, Facebook or similar webpage while playing sports for that institution. If you do it's so long to playing and your scholarship. Maybe that should added as a requirement in the high school contract. It would remedy the problem quickly that's for sure.
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Post by Valley Eggroll »

What if I started a site about you that you did not authorize. We can cut and paste pictures of you in compromising situations. Very easy to do. This issue is not as simple as it looks.
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Post by tomASS »

Valley Eggroll wrote:What if I started a site about you that you did not authorize. We can cut and paste pictures of you in compromising situations. Very easy to do. This issue is not as simple as it looks.
that would be considered defamation and slanderous. Your example is not what happened in the EP case. 8)
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Post by Valley Eggroll »

You would be surprised how an enterprising student could set up someone for a fall using technology. I'm not saying this is what happened at EP, but if we are quick to set policy and convict on what we see on a website, we cannot be certain of the outcomes to possibly innocent victims. Kids can be cruel and act without consideration.
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Post by SportsMa »

http://www.mankatofreepress.com/editori ... 02406.html

"What has changed, apparently, is the reaction to the reasonable penalties exacted by the school. Several parents of the offending students are turning to lawyers, saying they are considering legal action against the school for reacting too harshly. The parents’ reaction may offer some insight into the phenomena many universities and police departments say they are seeing — college-aged young adults who seem to feel entitled to do what they want and are indignant when they face penalties for their actions. It’s difficult to suggest Eden Prairie school officials acted too harshly. They questioned 42 students who had questionable photos posted on Facebook. The administration only penalized those in which the evidence supported it."
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Post by tomASS »

Valley Eggroll wrote:You would be surprised how an enterprising student could set up someone for a fall using technology. I'm not saying this is what happened at EP, but if we are quick to set policy and convict on what we see on a website, we cannot be certain of the outcomes to possibly innocent victims. Kids can be cruel and act without consideration.
Remember though, the general public didn't convict anyone. Many of us are basing our perception based on an investigation by the EP High School. I doubt they would have taken the action they did without cause to do so, and even then parents are still threatening legal action.

My what lessons we teach our children at times
Media
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The answer

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Whether an athlete realizes it or not she has a certain code by which she is expected to live. She has certain responsibilities she must fulfill to her community, her school, and her teammates. Because she lives in the lime light, amid a certain hullabaloo that others girls miss. It is possible for an athlete to overemphasis her importance. If so she is missing out on one of the greatest joys a performer can have in later life.
For the thing that will standout most in her adult life is that she lived by the code. Athletes have a code of responsibility whether or not they realize it. The spot light that shines their way will point out if they actually have what it takes as young adults off the ice as well as on. Since they become well known by playing games before large crowds, athletes are watched more closely than most youth. That is a responsibility they must accept. For if they are to receive the accolades from the crowds they must also measure up to those peoples opinions. The athlete’s actions will govern the respect that comes her way.
This makes it essential that she train, she will not fool people long if she does not do the things a clean cut young woman should be doing. If she drinks it will not remain a secret. If she performs other harmful acts, it will not take the public long to learn.
In violating training, an athlete harms herself physically and brings down contempt which will cause distrust all through her life. No one wants to hire a cheat and everyone soon learns who cheat on training rules. Team spirit is another thing an athlete must possess. She must be ready to inspire her teammates the loafer, no matter how talented she maybe is soon pegged in her true category that is something that is hard to lose once it is attached. The girl that loafs gets by as easily as possible is doomed to disappointment when she starts to look for work once her athletic career is over.
Loyalty and dependability go hand in hand. A girl who is loyal to whom she is associated is also dependable. For in her loyal nature is a trait that will make her dependable to carry her load and perhaps a bit more.
Slow as it may seem the individual is passing her way through school. The time is short, and the athlete soon becomes another citizen who must carry her load in society. If she has shirked her duty as an athlete, if she has let down her teammates by not training, or if she lacks loyalty, or is not dependable, she will find the world a much tougher place to live. The bad habits she has picked up will stay with her and get worse. The bad name she has got will continue to deteriorate.
It is a wise girl that will live by the code while in athletics. She will find game in and game out she can perform better. And since perfection is the goal that everyone seeks, She will find that satisfaction and pleasure will reach its greatest potential because she has lived by the rules She will pass the non trainer in a hundred ways and when she is done she will find that her pleasure has been much greater than of those who did not live up to clean decent living.
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Post by southern-cross-check »

very insightful, sincerely.

yet, a part of me wants to ask...


Did you Order the Code Red!?
Media
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Post by Media »

This was not written by me something I have had a while thought it was approprite thread for it .
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Post by JustAGuy »

Media wrote:This was not written by me something I have had a while thought it was approprite thread for it .
Do you also have one in your file about giving kids second chances for stupid decisions they now regret?
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Post by eastsidehockey »

The unfortunate thing about that is life often times does not offer second chances, only lessons, lets hope we all learned our lessons through this.
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Post by winnings not 4 everyone »

Section playoffs prove that. There are no second chances. You must do it right the first time, or pack your bag.
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Post by MNHockeyFan »

winnings not 4 everyone wrote:Section playoffs prove that. There are no second chances. You must do it right the first time, or pack your bag.
Or as the saying goes, "winnings means everything". :wink:
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Post by goalzilla »

Thought this thread was dead and gone. A question was raised in a recent post about believing in second chances for stupid decisions one makes as a youth. Agreed second chances should be given, however that happens after accountability takes place and consequences are faced. The lessons kids learn is a piece of the fabic making them what they become. Not only do the offending parties need to learn the lesson, but we as parents/adults need to make sure they are made to atone to those responsibilities. Too often I hear; my presious didnt mean it, she wont do it agian, give her a break. IMO, the way it should go is, My precious made a mistake what are the consequences, she will face them and we will do what we can to see this never happens again. Thanks for the second chance.
Agreed everyone does deserve a second chance thats how we learn some of lifes harsh lessons.
Ok off my soap box.
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Post by Media »

Well stated my friend !
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