Cretin upsets stillwater

brookyone · Post by **brookyone** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:35 pm

I certainly don't blame coach Scheid for the Ponies coming up one game shy of a state tournament berth but I personally think Stillwater had a stronger blueline crew last season.

Bensonmum · Post by **Bensonmum** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:18 pm

I don't live in Stillwater or root for their hockey teams. My daughter has played against them for years and they are rivals. She did skate in a Tony Scheid-run camp last summer, however, and I've found that Coach Scheid is not only a great coach but a 100% class guy. All the girls' programs at Stillwater reflect his leadership at the top. He maintains an active role at the youth level all the way down to U10. Oftentimes the players, parents, and fans of a program reflect the character of the varsity coach, and I've found that to be the case at Stillwater. It's a classy organization from top to bottom, due in a large part to Coach Scheid.

goalzilla · Post by **goalzilla** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:57 pm

wtbearlk1111 probably should spend sometime assessing your girls program, When was the last time they won state? If you are indeed from White Bear you find fault with StillH20 pretty easily, how about your own house? I'm assuming from your StillH20 coaching assessment that WBL coaching is superior? I guess that's why a good number of girls are going to Hill. As far as Scheid is concerned, if you were at the game you would have seen why they lost; he cant skate for them! I have never been compelled to defend a coach but I have never come across such an ignorant comment. As noted by another post Coach Scheid is 100% class act and for him to put teams together like he has the last 3 years is a testiment to his ability and connection to the kids. Gee!.....how many girls left StillH20 to play varsity at another school this year? I think you can use 1 finger to answer that one. As far a Housley take it to the boys site.

iceit · Post by **iceit** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:19 pm

We've skated in Stillwater in the summer in the past.. SUPER PROGRAM!!
from the top down. Scheid is a awesome coach one of the best in the state, the kids are talented and fun. i often wish we'd have found away to go to highschool there! They lost ONE game. CDH has 8 seniors and had something to prove. You would be a fool asking that man to leave after all he has done for that program. Believe me it could be very much worse! It was one game. Anyone can win on anyday and certainly during playoffs! You should be lucky your kids have a coach like this. This team will be back full force again next year with something to prove mark my words.

xwildfan · Post by **xwildfan** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:39 pm

wtbearlk1111 wrote:I think a majority of blame for Stillwater has to Fall on scheid. He
and Housley should both be fired.

I think this was posted to simply get a reaction out of other forum members. The CDH - Stillwater result reinforces my opinion that once the puck drops, the quality of the coaches really is a moot point. There often is no correlation of winning / losing and quality of coaching. Many times teams win inspite of the coaching a team receives.

Melvin44 · Post by **Melvin44** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:19 pm

STILLWATER WON STATE LAST YEAR!!!!

I'm from WBL and I think Coach Scheid and his staff are great coaches and I wouldn't mind them coming over to WBL as we just lost our coach (he resigned).

I know players/parents from Stillwater and have heard that coach Scheid gets involved from the youth teams to the high school team and feel that is the way to be successful.

If wtbearlk1111 is indeed from WBL then he/she isn't a true hockey fan with knowledge about coaching.

hockey_rocker · Post by **hockey_rocker** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 8:55 pm

Blame coach Scheid? Not a chance. Please send him to WBL. We need a reason for players to stay here. Oh wait, I forgot they ALL go to Hill because our school are no good. Whatever. Coach Scheid and the girls just could not bet to those juicy rebounds. Cretin got a bounce. It was a GREAT game. Good luck to Cretin. They have some great leaders on the ice.

joehockey · Post by **joehockey** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 9:36 pm

[quote="goalzilla"] Gee!.....how many girls left StillH20 to play varsity at another school this year? I think you can use 1 finger to answer that one. /quote]

Actually I think both Ley and Brushu (sp?) on the Hill Murray Varsity this year are products of Stillwater youth hockey - so is that two?

Also the Philipchek girl left Woodbury-went to Stilwater in 7th-Eagan in 8th and back to Stillwater this year - is that leaving or coming?

Tuuri and Plum have tranferred in so he is well respected on the eastside.

Coach Scheid has worked with the community and helped to build a model girls youth program with depth and skill development focus. Go to a Stillwater games it is full of youth players wearing Stillwater jerseys and cheering wildly. If more coaches did what he has done they would enjoy the current depth he has in his program. With depth though may bring girls looking to play sooner in other programs?

If you look at Cretin's season and play - a few things happened on the road to state 1) Jondahl the goalie is playing very hot and BIG she outplayed three top goalies in the section 4AA wins - she is a D1 prospect that someone will pick up 2) Carlson and Wild are really carrying the play - earlier in the year players all looked like they were trying (or were told) to get the puck to Keys - now they are using all the players on the ice and jumping up in the play - their talent is amazing 3) Big difference in results and the role players across the team are suddenly goal scorers because the puck is moving....amazing hockey played as a team game equals CDH team success!!

hockey_rocker · Post by **hockey_rocker** » Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:11 pm

For the record. Lea Jondel is going to Eau Claire. I spoke to her after the WBL game. She is playing very well right now. She is using her size with good angles. Nothing flashy because she doesn't have to.

hockeywild7 · Post by **hockeywild7** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:33 am

75-14-5 that is Stillwaters record the past 3 years under this coach. Pretty impressive. So I guess that statement alone disqualifies anything mr. Wbl has said. As for brookyone and the defense, I would again look at the statistics of the team. Looks to me like they didn't give up many goals, actually less than the year before with a new goalie. I would say the loss to cretin resulted in a lack of scoring, not any defensive problems. Cretin just played a great defensive game against Roseville and Stillwater. Neither team could get the puck past the goalie even though they outshot cretin by 15 plus shots. If cretin can do the same in the state tournament they have a shot. I just dont think they can do it with such a short bench having to play 3 games in a row. But good luck to them they beat 3 very good teams to get there.

finance_gal · Post by **finance_gal** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:30 am

To Blame this loss on the Stillwater coach is insane, I have never been more impressed with a coach than Stillwaters Coach Schied, Our daughter did some of his summer camps with him and found him to be one of the top boys or girls coaches we've seen. He takes time before and after practices to work with the players one on one, he tells each girl what she has to work on to improve and makes sure she does it. I'm certain that he took the loss to Cretin hard, but accepted the fact that his team, Stillwater lost in a game that could have went either way to a team that was just peaking at the perfect time, Cretin. Most coaches in the state can learn alot from coach Schied.

hockey411 · Post by **hockey411** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:42 pm

Scheid hasn't created talent, it was passed on to him by the youth program. What he is working with was brought up over the past years from some very good coaching. let's see what happens over the next few years. I have seen what is happening in the Stillwater Association and let me tell you, until they realize that they can not let the HS hockey coaches control the youth program totally, they are going to have trouble. Too many people on the boards have kids playing for the HS teams and therefore are kissing the butts of the coaches and letting them do whatever they want and they will end up hurting the association. Scheid has a daughter on one of the youth teams and ask anyone there, he only coaches her and plays her over and above, isn't that abusing his position?

hockeyfan#4 · Post by **hockeyfan#4** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:23 pm

hockey411 wrote:Scheid hasn't created talent, it was passed on to him by the youth program. What he is working with was brought up over the past years from some very good coaching. let's see what happens over the next few years. I have seen what is happening in the Stillwater Association and let me tell you, until they realize that they can not let the HS hockey coaches control the youth program totally, they are going to have trouble. Too many people on the boards have kids playing for the HS teams and therefore are kissing the butts of the coaches and letting them do whatever they want and they will end up hurting the association. Scheid has a daughter on one of the youth teams and ask anyone there, he only coaches her and plays her over and above, isn't that abusing his position?[/quote[/list]

hockeyfan#4 · Post by **hockeyfan#4** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:50 pm

Dear wtbearlk1111 and hockey411

It is very obvious that both of you should not be posting replies on this forum. Before you start to throw darts at a coach "Schied" and whoever "he youth couch" is or "they the association" you may want to do your homework. You sound like a very disgruntled parent trying to live vicariously through your child. You are the reason why TEAMS and ASSOCIATIONS fail!!! You have no knowlege of how the game is played or what the concept of a TEAM sport is.
No one is sorry that you left Stillwater in hopes of getting a better deal at White Bear Lake and failed or you are not happy about the success of the entire Stillwater Hockey Program. You are the one thorn in every association or coaches side that make their job more difficult than it should be. Any of this sinking in YET???
How about this - Why don't you let the coach be a coach?
How about this - Why don't you first learn how to be a parent and criticize your own skills as a parent, before you embarass yourself with uneducated comments on a public forum.
Stillwater Hockey Fan!!! Go Coach Schied for all the effort and sacrifice you put into a WINNING PROGRAM!!

hockeywild7 · Post by **hockeywild7** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:05 pm

hockey411 the things you have said about coach scheid and his program are not true and people like you who like to try and undermine all the great things he has done are the problem. To say he plays his daughter excessivley is just not true and if you watched the team play you would know it. If you have an axe to grind with him talk to him personally but don't misstate the truth on a forum. There are alot of good people in the youth program coaching. I have never heard a statement from coach scheid saying he is developing all the talent and I know he doesnt take credit for it. Look at all the youth girls who wear jerseys to the games to support the high school teams. They grow up wanting to be a part of the program. The high school players attend youth practices as part of their lettering program as coach scheid believes in giving back and creating an atmosphere of excitement for the youth kids. I am just glad to say that from what I know, you are definitely in the minority about what is going on in Stillwater. Just ask his past and present players what they think about his program, they are the ones who live it. I bet you will hear much support from them for what he does and has done in the past.

hockey411 · Post by **hockey411** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 8:29 am

I'm sorry, I thought we were suppose to be honest on this forum. Like I said, people are afraid to say what they think to coaches like this for the fact that it might be held against their child. I am sure that some of the players and families are happy but I know of many who are not and will not say anything about it. You must have a daughter on the V team.

hockeyrube · Post by **hockeyrube** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:30 am

Hockey411,

Hey - why don't you join the rest of us in a place called REALITY !!!!
What you said could not be further from the truth !!

I guess you are entitled to your opinion, but don't tell lies and distort the facts in an effort to stir the pot, and cook up a bunch of BS about how their is trouble in the Stillwater program. Stillwater has a model program top to bottom, from the U8 to the varsity - one of the top in the state !!!

Scheid is a great coach - has nothing to do with whether you have a kid on varsity, JV, U12, or any other team. Anyone who knows him, and has spent time around the program knows that Scheid is genuine, and a real class act. He is super positive with the kids, respectful, and dedicated to their development as players and young adults. Name me another head coach that in addition to his varsity responsibilities, ran every single JV practice, and was on the bench for every single JV game. Scheid has continually given credit to the youth coaches in Stillwater for helping develop this kids at the youth level. It is one of the few programs in the State that has a cooperative effort between the HS and the youth.

You don't believe me ????? Think I am drinking the KoolAid ???? Scheid is very, very respected in the HS hockey community. I know lots of people from competing schools that would love to have this guy running their program.

So what's the chance that you have your facts completely straight, and that the rest of us are full of BS ???? Go stir the pot somewhere else, and let Scheid and the Stillwater program enjoy the respect that I am quite sure they have earned.
Rube is out

Bensonmum · Post by **Bensonmum** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:34 am

This is strictly my opinion:

Stillwater is not a girls' hockey hotbed. The numbers aren't great. The talent pool isn't very deep contrary to what some believe. What they do have is a group of dedicated coaches from U10 through JV, and each of those teams mirrors Coach Scheid's varsity program in that they get the absolute most out of each kid. The summer program is ideal where they allow the U10s to skate with the JV girls occasionally, and U12 with Varsity. Coach Scheid is coming as close as I've seen to building a girls' 'hockey community'.

gopher25 · Post by **gopher25** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:40 am

hockeywild7 wrote:hockey411 the things you have said about coach scheid and his program are not true and people like you who like to try and undermine all the great things he has done are the problem. To say he plays his daughter excessivley is just not true and if you watched the team play you would know it. If you have an axe to grind with him talk to him personally but don't misstate the truth on a forum. There are alot of good people in the youth program coaching. I have never heard a statement from coach scheid saying he is developing all the talent and I know he doesnt take credit for it. Look at all the youth girls who wear jerseys to the games to support the high school teams. They grow up wanting to be a part of the program. The high school players attend youth practices as part of their lettering program as coach scheid believes in giving back and creating an atmosphere of excitement for the youth kids. I am just glad to say that from what I know, you are definitely in the minority about what is going on in Stillwater. Just ask his past and present players what they think about his program, they are the ones who live it. I bet you will hear much support from them for what he does and has done in the past.

Hockey411- unless you want to say who you are maybe, you should just let it go. It really hurts the players of these coaches when people go on these sites and bash their coach or past coaches; which if you go back and look at prior posts that is all you seem to do. They aren't old enough to understand what is true and what isn't. Also I think Coach Scheid is one of the best out there. The 2 players Ii know from STillwater say that the first thing he tells them every season is that HE CARES about them as people more so than hockey players. He is rooting for them to succeed as people before hockey players. So I guess If my daughter were playing for this guy, since the WNHL hasn't started yet I would be ok if they only went to state 2 out of every 3 years

and they knew their coach cares about them. But I guess thats just me and I try not to have unrealistic expectations of a man who probably only gets paid about 7k for the WHOLE season.

I will also say that Scheid has been lucky with the dads and coaches that have been around the program for the past 7 years. However, I am sure he is greatful to and has said so. Try keeping this forum positive and about the kids and positive hockey stories.

finance_gal · Post by **finance_gal** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:21 am

gopher25 wrote:
hockeywild7 wrote:hockey411 the things you have said about coach scheid and his program are not true and people like you who like to try and undermine all the great things he has done are the problem. To say he plays his daughter excessivley is just not true and if you watched the team play you would know it. If you have an axe to grind with him talk to him personally but don't misstate the truth on a forum. There are alot of good people in the youth program coaching. I have never heard a statement from coach scheid saying he is developing all the talent and I know he doesnt take credit for it. Look at all the youth girls who wear jerseys to the games to support the high school teams. They grow up wanting to be a part of the program. The high school players attend youth practices as part of their lettering program as coach scheid believes in giving back and creating an atmosphere of excitement for the youth kids. I am just glad to say that from what I know, you are definitely in the minority about what is going on in Stillwater. Just ask his past and present players what they think about his program, they are the ones who live it. I bet you will hear much support from them for what he does and has done in the past.

Hockey411- unless you want to say who you are maybe, you should just let it go. It really hurts the players of these coaches when people go on these sites and bash their coach or past coaches; which if you go back and look at prior posts that is all you seem to do. They aren't old enough to understand what is true and what isn't. Also I think Coach Scheid is one of the best out there. The 2 players Ii know from STillwater say that the first thing he tells them every season is that HE CARES about them as people more so than hockey players. He is rooting for them to succeed as people before hockey players. So I guess If my daughter were playing for this guy, since the WNHL hasn't started yet I would be ok if they only went to state 2 out of every 3 years and they knew their coach cares about them. But I guess thats just me and I try not to have unrealistic expectations of a man who probably only gets paid about 7k for the WHOLE season.

I will also say that Scheid has been lucky with the dads and coaches that have been around the program for the past 7 years. However, I am sure he is greatful to and has said so. Try keeping this forum positive and about the kids and positive hockey stories.

Great posting!!! you summed it up perfectly and we found the same thing about Stillwater's Coach Scheid, he cares about the girls as people. You don't realize how important that is until your child is in a program where the players are considered disposible. Our schools hockey program treated our daughter like she was a piece of garbage after she had a season ending injury. Coach Scheid is a class act and he shows it in the way he approaches everything he does.