NHL for Brian Bochenski under current tranfer HS rules??

[justanobserver]

Star and Tribune said he transferred as a junior to Benilde. Are we limiting player's development options in MN due to these new rules? My guess is this
transfer was critical to Brian's success. At the very least, we seem to be limiting opportunity for our MN boys which are being cut by their high school coaches. Let's Play Hockey recently discussed the senior goalie which got cut from Holy Angels is now at SPA or Minnehaha as a starting goalie. If they can cut the grade/admissions tests, let them go to a school without a year sit.

[BNyrup24]

Star and Tribune said he transferred as a junior to Benilde. Are we limiting player's development options in MN due to these new rules? My guess is this
transfer was critical to Brian's success. At the very least, we seem to be limiting opportunity for our MN boys which are being cut by their high school coaches. Let's Play Hockey recently discussed the senior goalie which got cut from Holy Angels is now at SPA or Minnehaha as a starting goalie. If they can cut the grade/admissions tests, let them go to a school without a year sit.

Same story (transferred Jr. year after getting cut from HS team as a sophmore) for Andrew Alberts, per this Let's Play Hockey story: http://www.letsplayhockey.com/946HS.html

[Doglover]

I think we're definitely limiting our hockey players with the transfer rule. How about a goalie who's looking at playing second goalie his whole hs career so he wants to make a move. I thought I heard somewhere that there was a group joining together to fight the legality of the rule since it was imposed on everyone by none elected representatives? I could be totally wrong, but they'd get my vote. I have heard that the transfer rule is only there to protect the weaker sports players and the HS coaches with weaker teams. I don'tknow much about it but it seems to limit choices and development. I'm for a free trade society all the way

[SWPrez]

Current High school transfer rules are bad.

I got cut my junior year, transfered to a private for my senior year. Went on to play four years of DIII college hockey.

Same happened to my brother. Cut junior year, transfered in the middle of junior year and played JV for another school, senior year he played varsity, won the Lake Conference, went to the State Tourney...was all state tourney team and got drafted.

Had the current transfer rules been in place, our hockey would have been done our Junior year.

MN High Schools, in their quest to stop the flow of basketball players to Hopkins High School, have put in rules that will kill hockey futures for a lot of kids. Its bad policy and should be reviewed.

[Idiot]

Finally a solution to the weaker programs. Some from Tonka get cut and go to Waconia. Those that are getting cut from Waconia due to the increased number of players go to Glenco and finally Glenco has a hockey team. Eventually every small town in the state of Minnesota will have the rejects from the town down the road and have their own son or daughter passed over.

Life is full of crappy situations, glad some can find the benefit in running from them to another better, easier time. If you are any good, you will be noticed, does not matter what school you go to. What gives someone who was cut from Edina the right to enroll in a different community and take the place of someone else? You never know, that kid, if he doesn't hang it up, may be the next NHL player from a small town.

[Hockeyguy_27]

Finally a solution to the weaker programs. Some from Tonka get cut and go to Waconia. Those that are getting cut from Waconia due to the increased number of players go to Glenco and finally Glenco has a hockey team. Eventually every small town in the state of Minnesota will have the rejects from the town down the road and have their own son or daughter passed over.

Life is full of crappy situations, glad some can find the benefit in running from them to another better, easier time. If you are any good, you will be noticed, does not matter what school you go to. What gives someone who was cut from Edina the right to enroll in a different community and take the place of someone else? You never know, that kid, if he doesn't hang it up, may be the next NHL player from a small town.

When I was a junior in high school two unbelievable players were cut from our team. The first one played Junior Gold and ended up walking on at Ohio Sate later earned a full scholarship and subsequently was drafted in the 6th round by the Maple Leafs. The other became an All-American at Mankato and then was signed by St. Louis. It is too bad these kids were not give the chance to play HS hockey but their careers were not hindered by missing the opportunity. That being said I have no problem with a kid doing what Alberts did. The MSHL is doing the best it can to create parody but times have changed and I suspect someone will challenge the legalities of the current transfer rule in the near future and it will be changed.

[O-townClown]

Same happened to my brother. Cut junior year, transfered in the middle of junior year and played JV for another school, senior year he played varsity, won the Lake Conference, went to the State Tourney...was all state tourney team and got drafted.

Minnetonka, mid-80s?

[SWPrez]

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Yep...that would be correct.

[slasher]

Shouldn't this be in the high school thread?

[justanobserver]

Yes, it should be a high school thread but MN High School League is making these players decide before high school in 8th grade (while in youth hockey). Jamie Sherwood (Wayzata) headed the committee on these restictions for student/athletes. I realize it is not this simple, but it certainly gives the impression that a number of these large public schools felt the need to change the rules! Why? Not winning so we need to force the players
to stay. What about improving the product so the better players want to stay. What about letting the players who got cut leave if they have the
dream and desire to pursue their passion. Who are we to say the student/athlete needs to sit out a year when you are a junior or senior?

[Cobber]

How about the goalie that plays for his hometown youth team all the way up then he gets cut his senior year because somebody moves in from another town because he got cut. How is this kid suppose to keep devoloping.

[Idiot]

I think that we should just adopt the canadian model of hockey development, send the kids off at 16 to live with somebody else and play for a city that will let them. To better the product on the ice, trade them. If you get cut from a team, move to another province and give it a whirl and enroll in a school for educational reasons!!!

Sorry but schools are not for hockey development, they are for education.

If you want a school for hockey development go to SSM or the new MM program.

To all others, have fun while you can because at some point that B player may not have the chance to play on a high school team, thankfully there are other options available if they want to continue to play.

[tomASS]

Sorry but schools are not for hockey development, they are for education.

You beat me to it but I would phrase it that the school's first priority is toward education before anything else. When you transfer schools solely for hockey you have your priorities mixed up IMO

[justanobserver]

TOmass:

So you are of the "school" that Brian would have made the NHL conitinuing to play Junior Gold in Eden Prairie. The word was that he was not going to get an opportunity to play Varsity at Eden Prairie.

Let's see............he went on to a good college to get an education and play hockey. He got a good education at Benilde .......but according to you he has mixed up priorities. How does that work again? Under the current MSHL rules he probably would not have transferred to Benilde and would have been another MN "could have been" hockey player. By the way.. my guess is that he got a scholarship to play at Boston. How much was that worth to their family back then? 80K Mixed priorities? Maybe the MSHL has the mixed priorites.

[tomASS]

TOmass:

So you are of the "school" that Brian would have made the NHL conitinuing to play Junior Gold in Eden Prairie. The word was that he was not going to get an opportunity to play Varsity at Eden Prairie.

Let's see............he went on to a good college to get an education and play hockey. He got a good education at Benilde .......but according to you he has mixed up priorities. How does that work again? Under the current MSHL rules he probably would not have transferred to Benilde and would have been another MN "could have been" hockey player. By the way.. my guess is that he got a scholarship to play at Boston. How much was that worth to their family back then? 80K Mixed priorities? Maybe the MSHL has the mixed priorites.

Let me provide clarity to my statement since I left one important element out.
1) Public school's first priority is to do what?? Educate, correct? Anything else should be just frosting on the cake. Player development is not the public's school's system nor the MSHSL's first priority, nor should it be. It is the player's responsibility.
2) I am and always have been in the position that the current MSHSL transfer rules should apply to public schools only since private schools are really private enterprises.
3) I still am under the belief that to transfer HS, public or private, solely for a sport is silly and priorities are misplaced. I am glad he benefitted from being able to handle the school work at BSM, however I still am under the belief that type of prioritization only benefits very few. This is the state of hockey. I'm old fashion, but still believe the cream will always find a way to the top. His path may not have been the same but the result may have. That is only speculation and my opinion as would be the same on your part to say if he didn't follow the same path, things would have been much different.

Sounds like where we agree is the fact that rules should be different for the private enterprise of private schools. However I might want the parents to have to provide proof of financial need and make sure the assistance funds that might be required are laundered through the school.

[Idiot]

Student Athlete

Nobody knows the whole story behind Brian. What other circumstances were there that he was not going to get a shot at playing for the HS?
Could he have found a way if he played junior gold? Yes, if he was good enough.
I believe that there are a lot of selections made at the summer festivals in St. Cloud and New York, in fact I am pretty sure that just about every college is represented there so for that fact, he would have been noticed if he was any good..

[Idiot]

Who is Brian Bochenski anyway? Never heard of him..

[sorno82]

The guy who started the thread isn't very detail oriented. Andrew Alberts is the kid who washed out at EP and got a chance at Benilde. The new rules would have forced him to sit out a season. Brandon Bochenski is a kid who played on B teams at Blaine through most of his youth due to his skating ability, now plays for Anaheim. Couple stories out there, one in LPH and the other in the Strib use Bochenski and Alberts as examples of late bloomers making it big in hockey.