8A Predictions........

SiouxRecruit · Post by **SiouxRecruit** » Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:40 pm

well im right...they won 2-1...i was worried

Irishmans Shanty · Post by **Irishmans Shanty** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 9:55 am

Fri Feb 22 "Section Quarterfinal Edition II"

LOW vs. Park Rapids, PR will look sharp and the Prairie Centre game will become ancient history
Kittson Central vs. EGF, EGF will either win by 2 or 7

SiouxRecruit · Post by **SiouxRecruit** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:50 am

Fri Feb 22 Section Quarterfinal

LOW vs. Park Rapids, PR will be on their game
Kittson Central vs. EGF, EGF by 1

NorthcoteCupGuy · Post by **NorthcoteCupGuy** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:00 pm

I'm hoping for a KC upset! Love to see LOW to advance as well.

MN Pond Hockey · Post by **MN Pond Hockey** » Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:09 pm

LOW vs. Park Rapids 6-3
Kittson Central vs. EGF 5-3

WHSWarriors!!! · Post by **WHSWarriors!!!** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:24 am

State Champ 97 wrote:
SB24 wrote:Warroad is going to be a bottom feeder? I don't think so. Remember when everyone said Warroad wouldn't compete for the section for a long time after Oshie and Co graduated? Like the old saying goes, Warroad doesn't rebuild, they reload...
As much as I dislike Warroad SB is right. Warroad will never be a bottem feeder. I don't see them ever dropping lower than the 5th seed, ever. Remember they are in a section with the likes of:

Bagley-who just hired a 21 year old head coach with very little coaching, or even playing experience.

Red Lake Falls- who, while have a great coach, do not have numbers to be truely competetive in the section (there peewees had less than 12 players last year).

Kittson Central- who have been going through coaches yearly as of late and now have arena issues and low numbers.

Walker- who is new to the section and high school hockey will take years to get to the level they need to be, if ever.

LOW- who have been in decline for the last few years but I am not willing to say they are going to stay down forever.

That puts the lowest Warroad could finish is 6th. Which is unlikely because they don't play at 4 out of those 5 teams due to Warroad's choice to play more AA schools. Warroad will always be in contention in 8A.

There's a reason why Warroad plays AA schools... I don't know about you, but I'd rather see a hockey game, not a domination... This year, Warroad isn't quite up to AA standerds, but will be EXCEPTIONAL competition for the 8A title... it also forces other schools to kick it up a notch... There's no point in having weak sections... (and you can't say that Warroad's drowning out the competition, cuz then this forum wouldn't really exist...)

schwang17 · Post by **schwang17** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:21 am

WHSWarriors!!! wrote:
State Champ 97 wrote:
SB24 wrote:Warroad is going to be a bottom feeder? I don't think so. Remember when everyone said Warroad wouldn't compete for the section for a long time after Oshie and Co graduated? Like the old saying goes, Warroad doesn't rebuild, they reload...
As much as I dislike Warroad SB is right. Warroad will never be a bottem feeder. I don't see them ever dropping lower than the 5th seed, ever. Remember they are in a section with the likes of:

Bagley-who just hired a 21 year old head coach with very little coaching, or even playing experience.

Red Lake Falls- who, while have a great coach, do not have numbers to be truely competetive in the section (there peewees had less than 12 players last year).

Kittson Central- who have been going through coaches yearly as of late and now have arena issues and low numbers.

Walker- who is new to the section and high school hockey will take years to get to the level they need to be, if ever.

LOW- who have been in decline for the last few years but I am not willing to say they are going to stay down forever.

That puts the lowest Warroad could finish is 6th. Which is unlikely because they don't play at 4 out of those 5 teams due to Warroad's choice to play more AA schools. Warroad will always be in contention in 8A.
There's a reason why Warroad plays AA schools... I don't know about you, but I'd rather see a hockey game, not a domination... This year, Warroad isn't quite up to AA standerds, but will be EXCEPTIONAL competition for the 8A title... it also forces other schools to kick it up a notch... There's no point in having weak sections... (and you can't say that Warroad's drowning out the competition, cuz then this forum wouldn't really exist...)

Maybe it's just me, but with the programs being fairly even(now and over the years), I don't see how you'd allow yourself to watch Roseau compete at a higher level than you. If I were a Warrior fan, I certainly wouldn't stand for it.

SB24 · Post by **SB24** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 2:50 am

what would you do?

Irishmans Shanty · Post by **Irishmans Shanty** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 7:41 am

Seven of eleven have been eliminated so it is a light day of games.

Sat Feb 23 "Section Semis Edition"

(1)Warroad vs. (4)TRF

WHSWarriors!!! · Post by **WHSWarriors!!!** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:29 am

schwang17 wrote: Maybe it's just me, but with the programs being fairly even(now and over the years), I don't see how you'd allow yourself to watch Roseau compete at a higher level than you. If I were a Warrior fan, I certainly wouldn't stand for it.

So your saying that Warroad is obviously AA material, and that any A team that can bring competition to Warroad is also AA material... So my thought is, why isn't TRF or EGF in AA? They're definetely bigger than Warroad, AND they provide excellent competition... Why don't we just kill the hockey programs in these towns by forcing them to play in AA? There have been some years were Warroad, obviously, has been able to compete (and probably win) in the AA bracket... but to say that Warroad is capable to compete EVERY year is overstating the hockey program...

SB24 · Post by **SB24** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:39 am

Nobody ever said that any team would compete every single year for the AA crown. Why would you say that it would kill the hockey program of a town to go to AA? I just don't see why you think it would be such a bad thing if Warroad went AA? If you've been reading the board for a while you'd know that i'm undecided if they should make the jump or not, but i'm probably leaning toward AA.

MNhockey fan · Post by **MNhockey fan** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:48 am

SB24 wrote:Nobody ever said that any team would compete every single year for the AA crown. Why would you say that it would kill the hockey program of a town to go to AA? I just don't see why you think it would be such a bad thing if Warroad went AA? If you've been reading the board for a while you'd know that i'm undecided if they should make the jump or not, but i'm probably leaning toward AA.

Because Warroad would NEVER get out of sections if they went AA, ever. Between Roseau and Moorehead, Warroad would consistanly be 3rd or worse, they have no chance of competeing with big schools. NONE.

SB24 · Post by **SB24** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:55 am

yeah in the lst 20 years warroad has more wins then losses agains both of them.

gottago · Post by **gottago** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:59 am

Roseau is unique unto itself and no other program anywhere, especially given the community's size, turns out the number of quality players year after year like they do. No other community has the number of former D1 and professional players return home to raise and coach their kids, either. Kudos to Roseau for opting up to AA but they are the exception, not the rule, and to think Warroad and every other competitive program in nw Minn should follow "just because Roseau did" is ridiculous.

SiouxRecruit · Post by **SiouxRecruit** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:05 pm

This is some intense stuff....we this be settled anytime soon?....it is playoff time!!

SB24 · Post by **SB24** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:05 pm

if thats the case then why is warroad 26-20 against them in the last 20 years?

SiouxRecruit · Post by **SiouxRecruit** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:15 pm

SB where are we going?...ill be hungry around game time

SB24 · Post by **SB24** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:36 pm

ill be eating a foot long or 3

schwang17 · Post by **schwang17** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:28 pm

WHSWarriors!!! wrote:
So your saying that Warroad is obviously AA material, and that any A team that can bring competition to Warroad is also AA material... So my thought is, why isn't TRF or EGF in AA? They're definetely bigger than Warroad, AND they provide excellent competition... Why don't we just kill the hockey programs in these towns by forcing them to play in AA? There have been some years were Warroad, obviously, has been able to compete (and probably win) in the AA bracket... but to say that Warroad is capable to compete EVERY year is overstating the hockey program...

EGF and TRF don't have the credentials that Warroad does, c'mon already! On a bad year Warroad is still in the top 10 in Class A and they almost always makes it to State. That isn't the case with EGF and TRF. Take a look at how many trips to state, trophies, Section Championships, etc, etc.. TRF and EGF have vs. Warroad the past 20 years.

schwang17 · Post by **schwang17** » Sat Feb 23, 2008 6:31 pm

gottago wrote:Roseau is unique unto itself and no other program anywhere, especially given the community's size, turns out the number of quality players year after year like they do. No other community has the number of former D1 and professional players return home to raise and coach their kids, either. Kudos to Roseau for opting up to AA but they are the exception, not the rule, and to think Warroad and every other competitive program in nw Minn should follow "just because Roseau did" is ridiculous.

I believe Warroad puts out pretty close to the same amount of good players from their town as Roseau(whether they get them from other towns is irrelevant). Pushing Warroad, a team that watches its arch-rivals playing at a higher level IS NOT pushing every solid team in the Northern half of this state. Warroad knows it can and probably should compete at the AA level, they have been just as good or better than Roseau the past 20 years, but they just don't have the cojones to do it. If they opt, then maybe the mid-tier teams of this Section can stop complaining because Warroad is "too good" to schedule them.

If they don't wanna opt, fine, I just know if I were a fan or from there I wouldn't want Roseau making us look like we're not at their level. Adding Warroad to 8AA would add a nice twist, and I think they would compete just fine but earn a lot more respect(not that they necessarily need it) in the process..

WHSWarriors!!! · Post by **WHSWarriors!!!** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:05 pm

If Warroad opted up to AA, they might as well kiss any state appearances goodbye, let alone state championships... True, Warroad can compete against Roso, but what about Moorhead? If you remember back to 2005, Warroad had the best team in the state and finished with a perfect season... but they still couldn't beat Moorhead... If Warroad went to AA, and miraculously made it to state, there's not much hope of them making it to state finals...

schwang17 · Post by **schwang17** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:15 pm

WHSWarriors!!! wrote:If Warroad opted up to AA, they might as well kiss any state appearances goodbye, let alone state championships... True, Warroad can compete against Roso, but what about Moorhead? If you remember back to 2005, Warroad had the best team in the state and finished with a perfect season... but they still couldn't beat Moorhead... If Warroad went to AA, and miraculously made it to state, there's not much hope of them making it to state finals...

I disagree. They and Roseau are pretty even most years. Moorhead has been down a little this year, but I believe Warroad would still be 1 of the favorites in 8AA...

You sound like most Warroad brass. Too scared to go into unventured waters and too comfortable in Class A knowing they have a 40-50% chance at going to State in a weaker class. Warroad is by no means a AA school, however, I do believe they are a AA hockey program. I find it funny how they talk up their tradition but punk out when it comes down to playing the best..

MNhockey fan · Post by **MNhockey fan** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:17 pm

schwang17 wrote:
gottago wrote:Roseau is unique unto itself and no other program anywhere, especially given the community's size, turns out the number of quality players year after year like they do. No other community has the number of former D1 and professional players return home to raise and coach their kids, either. Kudos to Roseau for opting up to AA but they are the exception, not the rule, and to think Warroad and every other competitive program in nw Minn should follow "just because Roseau did" is ridiculous.
I believe Warroad puts out pretty close to the same amount of good players from their town as Roseau(whether they get them from other towns is irrelevant). Pushing Warroad, a team that watches its arch-rivals playing at a higher level IS NOT pushing every solid team in the Northern half of this state. Warroad knows it can and probably should compete at the AA level, they have been just as good or better than Roseau the past 20 years, but they just don't have the cojones to do it. If they opt, then maybe the mid-tier teams of this Section can stop complaining because Warroad is "too good" to schedule them.

If they don't wanna opt, fine, I just know if I were a fan or from there I wouldn't want Roseau making us look like we're not at their level. Adding Warroad to 8AA would add a nice twist, and I think they would compete just fine but earn a lot more respect(not that they necessarily need it) in the process..

Warroads program is on the down swing, they have a good JV, but below that they suck at all other levels. Each level has one or two decent kids they want to try turn into the the next TJ Oshie, and they let the rest of the kids try figure it out on their own. Warroad isnt even in the same galaxy as Roseau or any AA program, not even close. After the current sophmores are gone, so is the nearly annual state trip, they'll fall off big time.

schwang17 · Post by **schwang17** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:24 pm

MNhockey fan wrote:Warroad isnt even in the same galaxy as Roseau or any AA program, not even close. After the current sophmores are gone, so is the nearly annual state trip, they'll fall off big time.

Try finding someone in Warroad who will admit to not being even close to Roseau's level and get back to me when you find that person...

Not even close to any AA program? Really? They aren't close to the Grand Rapids, Brainerds, Anokas, Roseau's, Cloquet's of the world?

Irishmans Shanty · Post by **Irishmans Shanty** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 1:26 pm

MNhockey fan wrote: Each level has one or two decent kids

That's all you need, 2 stud seniors, 2 great juniors, and 2 very good sophs. Mix in a move in or two and Warroad will be what they always are. 16-9 in a down year and 23-2 in a good one.

Never, ever, project what the HS team will be like based on the youth teams.

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156-45-3 on the year

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158-45-3 on the year