Section 1A 2007-2008 II

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RSI
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Post by RSI »

HOCKEYPUCK2 wrote:Lets be real. How hard is it to coach at MAYO? A constant flow of numbers. They then play against much smaller schools, for the majority of their schedule. When has mayo been bad? Double the size of AL and see how things turn out. Two KH's, Two JC's, Two LK's, Two SJ's, Two KN's, etc. I think my point is made.
HMMMM! The sound of that is very familiar :wink:
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DmanDad1980 wrote:
HOCKEYPUCK2 wrote:
DmanDad1980 wrote: Jeff Phillips did a great job as a 1st year coach, and would put him in the running for Southern Coach of Year with the Mayo performance this year.
Lets be real. How hard is it to coach at MAYO? A constant flow of numbers. They then play against much smaller schools, for the majority of their schedule. When has mayo been bad? Double the size of AL and see how things turn out. Two KH's, Two JC's, Two LK's, Two SJ's, Two KN's, etc. I think my point is made.


And Mac, don't worry, you're doing just fine with the young girls you teach the game to each year, keep on coaching - it is much appreciated! :D

I hope Austin does us proud tonight and this weekend!
Mac, I haven't heard anything about your spring or summer hockey. Are you still doing it? My kid liked it but can you make smaller group sizes?
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Post by Puck hog hockey »

HOCKEYPUCK2 wrote:
DmanDad1980 wrote: Jeff Phillips did a great job as a 1st year coach, and would put him in the running for Southern Coach of Year with the Mayo performance this year.
Lets be real. How hard is it to coach at MAYO? A constant flow of numbers. They then play against much smaller schools, for the majority of their schedule. When has mayo been bad? Double the size of AL and see how things turn out. Two KH's, Two JC's, Two LK's, Two SJ's, Two KN's, etc. I think my point is made.
Double the size and you'll have 10000 more senior citizens. How eazy kids are to coach is relative to their development in U8-U12. If they are taught that hockey is a team sport thats the way they will play. In all the years of watching AL girls play, IMHO, consistant team play has been a problem, from Miller to the current coaches, and in the developmental programs before high school. When they played as a team they played great. Hopefully they learned from this season and can bond into a team, the talent is there. As Herb Brooks said, I want the BEST team, not the best individuals.

Both the Austin and Mayo coaches did a great job, their teams played like teams.

Congrats to Austin, fun game to watch. Good luck Friday. Hope to see you in the finals on Sat. Have to go, 89 came to visit!!!!!!!!!
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Post by taking names »

everyone already knows that austin lost big time against breck. And then lost again. But congrats to austin on a good season. At least they made it to state when no one expected them too. Sure proved everyone wrong.
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Post by DmanDad1980 »

Thought I would single out some of the honored southern girls on the Associated Press All State team...

Congrats to all!

2008 Associated Press All-State girls' Hockey team

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) The Associated Press 2008 All-State team for Minnesota girls' hockey, as voted on by statewide media.

SECOND TEAM F Katy Kvasnicka, FR, Mankato West

HONORABLE MENTION FORWARDS Kacy Ambroz, SR, New Prague; Alyssa Black, JR, Mankato West; Jenna Christensen, JR, Albert Lea; Sara DeSaer, SR, Marshall; Jill Jacobs, SR, Marshall; Taylor Jenkins, SR, Austin; Megan Kramer, SR, Owatonna; Cailyn McCauley, FR, Owatonna; Korinne O'Connor, JR, New Ulm; Stevie Fiek, SR, Rochester Mayo; Mary Grace Flesher, SO, Rochester Mayo;

DEFENDERS Rose Alleva, SO, Red Wing; Breanne Hrabe, SR, New Prague; Amber Ostoff, JR, Mankato West; Cassie Seifert, SR, New Ulm; Nara Higano, SR, Rochester Mayo

GOALIES Therese Coughlan, FR, Mankato West; Michelle Ponapace-Potvin, SO, Rochester John Marshall/Lourdes
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Post by petomwendo »

just wanted to congratulate the pack on a good show at the state tourney.

taking names is right, they did lose to two teams, and pretty badly. but considering they lost 8 of us last season and came back to take a second section title and place higher in the state tournament.. all i can say is excellent job. you showed all of us just how much will and heart can accomplish.

i wish i could have seen you girls flying out on that ice..
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Post by RockHard »

taking names wrote:everyone already knows that austin lost big time against breck. And then lost again. But congrats to austin on a good season. At least they made it to state when no one expected them too. Sure proved everyone wrong.
Breck should be in AA. They are a private school (over $20,000 a year for tuition), and hand pick from over 40 players who they use. It is unfair to place them against public schools who struggle to make 3 lines. Alexandria is boderline school enrollment for AA as well. Roseau was just plain good. By the time the Austin girls played Roseau, they were already down mentally and had little chance. The Austin girl's heard nothing but negative from other players and this forum the whole time they were at State. Really sad, but like you say they played very well with what they had to work with. They will be back and much stronger each year as they mature. Your kind words will go far.
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Post by RockHard »

petomwendo wrote:just wanted to congratulate the pack on a good show at the state tourney.

taking names is right, they did lose to two teams, and pretty badly. but considering they lost 8 of us last season and came back to take a second section title and place higher in the state tournament.. all i can say is excellent job. you showed all of us just how much will and heart can accomplish.

i wish i could have seen you girls flying out on that ice..
You were sorely missed this year, and your support is appreciated more than you know. :D
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Post by taking names »

Since no one is ever on this any more I can now say to them "UNDER DOGS" Sweety Victoy AGAIN
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Post by Mac15 »

Which teams will be playing high school girls Showcase this spring. I see Albert Lea is on the schedule. Mayo will have a team but there are some players from JM & Northfield on the team too.

I think we need some more players.
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Post by Mac15 »

Rockhead, Did you get the registration for the girls spring skills? I have 2 different groups (older & younger or novice). I should be getting the info out for the summer in the next week or so.
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Post by Rocket78 »

Uhh, thanks. No I didn't get the registration. RYHA has my ex's email not mine. Can you PM the info to me or my kid will never make it. Who's on your showcase team?
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Post by what'smyname »

Hello Southern MN, any word on the teams in the area? Any guesses for the season? Haven't heard from you in a long time.[/list][/i]
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what'smyname wrote:Hello Southern MN, any word on the teams in the area? Any guesses for the season? Haven't heard from you in a long time.[/list][/i]
Mayo is the team to beat in the Big 9, they haven't lost a Conference game in 4 or 5 years. I don't see any Big 9 team knocking off Mayo.
Big 9 prediction
1. Mayo
2. West
3. Owatonna
4. Austin
5. Faribo
6. Winona
7. JM
8. AL
8. Century
10. East

Austin is the team to beat in the Section 1A, they haven't lost a 1A game in 2 seasons. Austin has the best coach in 1A, I think he proved that last year and they will be my #1 until somebody shows me they are not worthy. Good luck.
1A prediction
1. Austin
2. Faribo
3. Northfield
4. Albert Lea
5. Red Wing
6. Waseca
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Post by jetjock »

I am able to talk more freely. I am not as attached.

I agree with RSI on Mayo in the Big 9. The team to beat.
1. MAYO
2. MW ( can they ever Beat AL though)
3. AL
4. Owatonna
5. Austin
6. Faribault
7. JM
8. Winona
9. Century
10. ME

1A prediction, Austin does start on top, until they are beaten, but this is a prediction.....so
1. AL ( Upperclassmen)
2. Redwing ( my bracket buster, great defenseman, good coaching, young, with some experience now, good showing in last year's section tourney, play a lot of summer hockey, and played Austin closer than Faribault.....Ha Ha. Will that bring Falcons out of hiding?
3. Northfield ( goaltending)
4. Austin (Always surprises me though, get better throughout the year)
5. Faribault ( could surprise also, strong young players)
6. Waseca

I may want to adjust these after the next few weeks. I will get to look into some players eyes and see if there is any hunger.
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Post by RSI »

jetjock wrote: I may want to adjust these after the next few weeks. I will get to look into some players eyes and see if there is any hunger.
Thus, I have AL in the bottom half. You play like you practice and since most things remain the same with the team, I expect much of the same as last season. Another season of very uninspired hockey with no sense of urgency!
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Post by the green machine »

jetjock wrote: and played Austin closer than Faribault.....Ha Ha. Will that bring Falcons out of hiding?
Ahh Jet, living in the past. This is about the future. By the way, we were never hiding. But I do believe another section 1A town is. :lol:

Big 9:
1. MW
2. owatonna
3. Mayo
4. Faribo
5. Austin
6. AL
7. JM
8. Winona
9. century
10. Mankato east

Section 1A:
1. Austin
2. Faribault
3. redwing
4. Albert Lea
5. Northfield
6. Waseca

Austin is the top dog until proven otherwise. BEAT AUSTIN. **No more #12, thank the hockey gods. Oops, I almost was living in the past. :D Albert Lea has the talent, but, is always one big drama away from imploding.( as past history would dictate). Oops, the past again. :D Redwing could be in the mix, but still pretty young. As history shows, it can be hard to win with young girls. Historically, Northfield has had the best goalie, but not much else. Our strength will be matured youth and team play. We have tasted the section championship and now want to consume it. 4 months and counting. :D
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Post by jetjock »

Going with the living in the past theme:

Teams, Seniors graduated, percentage of total team points

Albert Lea, 2, 5%
Austin, 3, 38 %
Faribault, 6, 51 %
Northfield, 1, 21 %
Redwing, 2, 27%
Waseca, 2 , 10 %

I understand that there is a lot more than points in a game and some seniors were defensemen and great role players, but it looks to me that Faribault and Austin lost the most and Albert Lea the least. So green machine, tell me about the future..........
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the green machine wrote: Albert Lea has the talent, but, is always one big drama away from imploding.( as past history would dictate).
Welcome back falcons :lol:

As much as it pains me to say, I have to agree with that statement :roll: Although in the girl's defense, there was some pretty significant "drama" last season. The team had ZERO leadership, which started at the top with an assistant coach who seemed to enjoy creating the drama with her completely inappropriate and unprofessional behavior and a head coach with ZERO coaching experience (at any level, in any sport). Even further up the food chain you have an Athletic Director/Title IX Coordinator who thinks that Title IX is ONLY about the opportunity to participate in athletics.

http://www.womenssportsfoundation.org/C ... 0%20A.aspx
How is Title IX applied to athletics?
There are three basic parts of Title IX as it applies to athletics:

Participation: requires that women be provided an equitable opportunity to participate in sports as men (not necessarily the identical sports but an equal opportunity to play).

Scholarships: requires that female athletes receive athletic scholarship dollars proportional to their participation (e.g., if there are 100 male athletes/100 female athletes and a $200,000 scholarship budget, then the budget must be split $100,000 to men/$100,000 to women)

Other Benefits: requires equal treatment in the provision of (1) equipment and supplies, (2) scheduling of games and practice times, (3) travel and daily allowance, (4) access to tutoring, (5) coaching, (6) locker rooms, (7) practice and competitive facilities, (8) medical and training facilities and services, (9) publicity and promotions, (10) recruitment of student athletes, and (11) support services.

ALL IS WELL IN ALBERT LEA :lol:
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Post by the green machine »

RSI wrote:
the green machine wrote: Albert Lea has the talent, but, is always one big drama away from imploding.( as past history would dictate).
Welcome back falcons :lol:

As much as it pains me to say, I have to agree with that statement :roll: Although in the girl's defense, there was some pretty significant "drama" last season. The team had ZERO leadership, which started at the top with an assistant coach who seemed to enjoy creating the drama with her completely inappropriate and unprofessional behavior and a head coach with ZERO coaching experience (at any level, in any sport). Even further up the food chain you have an Athletic Director/Title IX Coordinator who thinks that Title IX is ONLY about the opportunity to participate in athletics.
RSI welcome to the dark side. It is good that you have come to my way of thinking, young falcon. You must be taking night classes in Faribault. :lol:

Jet, what does the future behold? Faribault reloading. The strength of the youth program will now come into play. :shock: We will compete. However, I do sort of like AL being the favorite, it worked so well for them last year. :lol: :lol:

RSI , when do you want me to make a UHAUL reservation for you? :lol:

The self appointed Girls Hockey Guru

The Green Machine
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Post by what'smyname »

jetjock wrote:Going with the living in the past theme:

Teams, Seniors graduated, percentage of total team points

Albert Lea, 2, 5%
Austin, 3, 38 %
Faribault, 6, 51 %
Northfield, 1, 21 %
Redwing, 2, 27%
Waseca, 2 , 10 %

I understand that there is a lot more than points in a game and some seniors were defensemen and great role players, but it looks to me that Faribault and Austin lost the most and Albert Lea the least. So green machine, tell me about the future..........

Doesn't Austin have a very young team now with the 3 Seniors they lost?
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the green machine wrote:
The Green Machine
Good to see support for Mayo outside of Rochester... Always welcome, always :wink:
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Post by RSI »

the green machine wrote:RSI , when do you want me to make a UHAUL reservation for you? :lol:The Green Machine
That's a bit confusing...For what purpose do I need a UHAUL truck? I mean, other than that trophy from the Austin Christmas Tourney season, AL hasn't won any hardware, yet. :lol:
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Post by jetjock »

what'smyname wrote: Doesn't Austin have a very young team now with the 3 Seniors they lost?
I would not say young. They will be led by two Seniors, Catherine Wagner(#2 in state, in golf) and Kyli Elingson. Two very good players that are well seasoned. Then they have a supporting cast of 6-7 juniors and also 4 sophomores that have all played in many varsity games. Denny Bray, always has a way of getting the most out of his teams. If they have the desire, they will excel.

Remember one thing, the year before Austin lost 8 seniors, and still won the section.
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Post by jetjock »

DmanDad1980 wrote:
the green machine wrote:
The Green Machine
Good to see support for Mayo outside of Rochester... Always welcome, always :wink:
I am not sure what you mean by support, but be careful who you encourage. :D
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