Bantam A State

mghockey · Post by **mghockey** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:26 pm

this goal would have given maple grove the trip to the state tournament but since the refs only listened to the opinion of the wayzata goalie the goal was dissallowed they said number 17 (shane wolden) hit the puck in with his arm but if you watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK7_4uY7Fnw
youll see that clearly the goalie pushed the puck in to his own net

pondyplayer93 · Post by **pondyplayer93** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:34 pm

Fire and Ice wrote:State Tourney Records

Roseau 33-14-1
Eden Prairie 55-4-2

Duluth East 35-12-1
Wayzata 37-10-1

Edina 42-14-5
Moorhead 41-2-1

White Bear Lake 30-26-8
Centennial 27-26-3

moorheads record is a little misleading

Hockeyguy_27 · Post by **Hockeyguy_27** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:11 am

1st year phenom wrote:Yeah, all of these are great posts guys but someone said earlier that #7(Rau) on Ep was the best player in the state.

I seriously Doubt that. All you have to do is touch him and he'll shy away. Thats exactly what happened in the Moose goheen tourney in January when Wbl nearly upset #1 ranked EP

<.'_Just Another Day At The Rink_'.>

By the looks of the poll, more people think EP is going to win than think Obama is going to be our next president

FREDFLINTSTONE · Post by **FREDFLINTSTONE** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:24 am

I would like to make two comments reguarding 1st year phenom.

First of all, make sure you keep your head up when Kyle is on the ice, because if you don't, you won't have one.
Second, you said you almost beat EP in the moose. What exactly does that mean when you almost beat EP. I KNOW, IT MEANS YOU LOST !!

stxnpux · Post by **stxnpux** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:15 am

pondyplayer93 wrote:
Fire and Ice wrote:State Tourney Records

Roseau 33-14-1
Eden Prairie 55-4-2

Duluth East 35-12-1
Wayzata 37-10-1

Edina 42-14-5
Moorhead 41-2-1

White Bear Lake 30-26-8
Centennial 27-26-3
moorheads record is a little misleading

So there it is. Tell us how you really feel? Your sons team beat a team 2 months ago and that team is now in the state tourney and you just can't get over the fact that your kid isn't going to get to play.......

They have already changed the entire regional playoff system so that we can make sure that we have at least 6 cidiot teams in the tourney. But your right. We should just have 2 seperate tournaments and then we wouldn't have to have this discussion every year......

Moron........

Fire and Ice · Post by **Fire and Ice** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:07 am

I have to say it was the "NORTHERN PEOPLE" that wanted the playoffs the way they are now. Don't give the "CIDIOTS" that much credit we used to have a true double elim....think before speak or write

Moorhead 7&8 · Post by **Moorhead 7&8** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:46 pm

Why would you say our record is a little misleading? just wondering

stxnpux · Post by **stxnpux** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:39 am

Fire and Ice wrote:I have to say it was the "NORTHERN PEOPLE" that wanted the playoffs the way they are now. Don't give the "CIDIOTS" that much credit we used to have a true double elim....think before speak or write

The issue isn't the double elimination. The issue is the district rotations through regions. The districts surounding and in the metro area would routinely knock each other out at the district level because they only had a fixed number of teams that could advance to regions. Now with the districts rotating through the regions they can send more teams to regions and a by product of this is more teams to state.

And this new rotating regional format was absolutely pushed through MAHA by the metro area district teams.

I couldn't agree more. Think before you speak or write.

Fire and Ice · Post by **Fire and Ice** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:07 pm

you are wrong. it wasn't for extra city teams. the city was fine with the 4 they received. it was the silver region that caused the problem....the round robin format is a northern design where winning isn't the only thing that is important winning by lots of goals is. is this making sense now.

wannagototherink · Post by **wannagototherink** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:34 pm

Fire and Ice wrote:you are wrong. it wasn't for extra city teams. the city was fine with the 4 they received. it was the silver region that caused the problem....the round robin format is a northern design where winning isn't the only thing that is important winning by lots of goals is. is this making sense now.

Actually, the format used now, is the original format that was used before the metro regions went to a true double elimination about 10 years ago. The only format that would give you a true represetation of the states best is if MH were to go to 8 districts and run a playoff format like the high school league does. Of course then you cause problems for outstate teams by adding traveling distance between district opponents during the season. If you ask me, this years region tournament had all the top teams playing on Sunday with a chance to go to the State tournament. Oddly enough the teams that made it are the ones that make it every year, that is not because the system is screwy, it is probably because of the experience those programs have in those kind of big games. In fact, I think Shattuck (because they can't) and Blaine are the only two teams that didn't make it out of that independent league the top programs organized for this year. The only two teams that are in the tournament that did play in that league are Moorhead and Roseau and that is for obvious reasons (travel).

I can tell you the Northern teams don't like the current format, because there is a potential that the north could not be represented at all at the state tournament. No matter what format is used someone is not going to be happy, the last format had a birth to the state tournament for whoever won a region that consisted of district 4 and 5. That team was the sacrificial lamb for whatever team out of the metro region that was lucky enough to draw that game. Anyone who argues that this years state tournament doesn't have a worthy field is an absolute idiot. Everyone had the same opportunity to get there, some guys get it done and some guys don't. Congrats to the teams that did!

Fire and Ice · Post by **Fire and Ice** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:58 pm

Well said.

eat_sleep_hockey · Post by **eat_sleep_hockey** » Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:30 pm

i think eden praire takes this one easily. they have all u need. they have speed, strenght,hands,and teamwork. but i guess there goalie ford is a little cocky and thinks he is sweet(

) but its the team that does everything . there isn't a bad player that playes for eden prarie, and i think if they stay focused they will kill everyone.

highschoolhockeyfann · Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:28 pm

Rumor has it Kyle Rau broke his wrist but thats all i know.
Ford is good and has the ability to be a game changer plus its good to be a little cocky.

labattblue17 · Post by **labattblue17** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:25 am

If Edina wants a shot at winning they will need a strong showing from the goalie Girard and from what I have seen he is the right person to have between the pipes he could win them this tournament if he plays well but the same can be said for many teams, goaltending is key

goep · Post by **goep** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:36 am

1st year phenom wrote:Yeah, all of these are great posts guys but someone said earlier that #7(Rau) on Ep was the best player in the state.

I seriously Doubt that. All you have to do is touch him and he'll shy away. Thats exactly what happened in the Moose goheen tourney in January when Wbl nearly upset #1 ranked EP

<.'_Just Another Day At The Rink_'.>

There is not one kid on EP who would back down from anyone. Especially some White bear P3##y.

Underline the word NEARLY.

wannagototherink · Post by **wannagototherink** » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:19 pm

highschoolhockeyfann wrote:Rumor has it Kyle Rau broke his wrist but thats all i know.
Ford is good and has the ability to be a game changer plus its good to be a little cocky.

I have also heard that Rau has a broke wrist...

Are there any other teams with significant injuries going into this weekend.?

eastranger19 · Post by **eastranger19** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:37 am

It's amazing how many games these teams play each year, 50+, that's why you see the same teams almost every year, give or take a couple different now and again. These programs are dedicated to producing teams year in and year out and they do. I will take Edina @ home over Eden P. in the Champ. but all games should be good.

Doglover · Post by **Doglover** » Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:12 pm

Heard Wayzata is down two of their strongest players. Definitely a tough time of year for injuries. If Rau is truly out, EP could be in big trouble.

I think the comments about Moorhead's record refer to the fact that they don't play an extremely tough schedule (similar to Roseau HS) and people may think they haven't been properly tested. I think it would be foolish to understimate any of these teams (even the ones with injured players) going into the State tournament. It should be a great weekend of hockey at a great venue!!

DoubleDeuce · Post by **DoubleDeuce** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:35 pm

wannagototherink wrote:
pondyplayer93 wrote:
labattblue17 wrote:That is true, but last year they changed to this system and it made the whole system a lot better. They got rid of the Owatonna or Sartell teams that didn't belong in this class of teams. There is always going to be teams that should be in that didn't make it, thats hockey and thats why they call it playoffs.
yeah i understand that but i can think of a couple teams that both beat moorhead by over 4 and one of them beat wayzata and one beat white bear by 3 and centennial
Sounds like some who didn't get it done....The truth is, there is no one here or at any of the state tournaments that doesn't belong. What ever team you are eluding to (I'm assuming it's Bemidji) they don't belong there. Every team had the same chance to get to this tournament, the ones that got there, deserved to because they played the best hockey at the right time of year. I don't care who beat who in January, December November or October, that fact remains, if you don't win at the end of February thru the end of March than you have no argument. Everyone had a chance to come out of their district and those teams had an equal chance to come out of their Region. If you don't get it done you don't belong. Even if one of the teams had to upset a team to get to the state tourney, than they belong. I'm so sick of people talking like this, it is an excuse and at the end of the day some guys get it done and some guys don't. The teams that did, belong.

Lastly, if you look at the tournament field:

Roseau vs. Eden Praire

Duluth East vs. Wayzata

Moorhead vs. Edina

Centennial vs. White Bear Lake

Take a close look at those 8 teams, than take a look back at the last dozen years of state tournaments......if you actually do, you find that many of the past tournaments had these very teams in it. Year in and year out these teams are in the state tournament...now excuse makers will say it's because they are "mega" associations. My opinion, and maybe it is because I have gotten to know a lot of the guys who coach these teams over the past three or four years, but my opinion is these guys do it right. I have talked at length with several of them and they'll tell you flat out, they don't care about winning games at any point other than at playoff time. Take WBL for example. Last year, were left for dead at christmas time, and what do you know, come playoff time where did they end up? The state tournament. This year, they were getting pounded in November and December, but what do you know, it's region time and what do you know, the Bears are a team no one wants to play. So don't sit here with sour grapes and deminish what any of these teams have done, they have (now this is a novel idea on this board) they have EARNED their spot at the state tournament, so take your "there are teams that should be there instead" crap and stick it.

BRAVO!
I have never been to a Bantam State Tornament. Could somebody tell me if I will have a problem getting a ticket for Friday Night's Games? I believe they are at Braemar. I actually just want to go to the Centennial/White Bear Lake Game!

chillout · Post by **chillout** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:40 pm

Shouldn't be a problem. Your in for a good game if you go to WB/Cent, I believe it has been back and forth between the two throughout the season. A great rivalry the past years at the Bantam level.

On another note, good to see the tourney in the cities again. You will see some good crowds at braemer for the games, unlike last year where it was a little down on attendance with it being played in Alexandria.

uofmhedfan23 · Post by **uofmhedfan23** » Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:08 pm

HS Hockey Tourney is over and now MSBN is broadcasting the "A" Bantam Tournament from Braemar. Here is the upcoming schedule:

2008 "A" Bantam State Tournament 3/14 - 3/16
3/14 12:00 PM - Roseau vs. Eden Prairie
3/14 2:00 PM - Duluth East vs. Wayzata
3/14 4:00 PM - Edina vs. Moorhead
3/14 6:00 PM - Centennial vs. White Bear Lake

3/15 4:00 PM - Semifinal #1
3/15 6:00 PM - Semifinal #2

3/16 4:00 PM - Bantam "A" State Championship

Listen to future State Tournament Stars on MSBN, the Minnesota Sports Broadcast Network!

http://www.mnsportsnetwork.com

EP is #1- CanTbeStoPped · Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:36 am

There is no doubt Rau is the best in the state and yes he broke his wrist in two spots and he's still gonna kick some Roseau ass tomorrow.

MAIN POINT= EP WILL WIN STATE FOR SURE

thenumber4 · Post by **thenumber4** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 11:04 am

EP 5 Roseau 1

Wayzata beat Duluth East.. anyone know the score?

Edina 2 Moorhead 1 (2OT)

Cenntenial 1 WBL 0

ice00breaker · Post by **ice00breaker** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:34 pm

thenumber4 wrote:EP 5 Roseau 1

Wayzata beat Duluth East.. anyone know the score?

Edina 2 Moorhead 1 (2OT)

Cenntenial 1 WBL 0

Wayzata 4
Duluth East 2

labattblue17 · Post by **labattblue17** » Sat Mar 15, 2008 4:01 pm

Eden Prairie vs. Wayzata at 4 P.M.

Edina vs. Centennial at 6 P.M.

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Bantam A State

Who will win?

this goal would have...

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what is the injury report for the state tournament

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