destiny of the Cadets

[ozzie679]

They knew that STA was a Class A school when they signed up for classes. I just love how everybody thinks they know what is best for STA. You don't see their fans whining. It's usually somebody, who knows somebody.....

[puckster15]

My kid skates at FHIT and he told me he skated with a 7th grader that is going to STA. The 7th grader was skating with the JV skaters. Seems STA will continue to build.

[komada77]

Why does everyone seem to think enrollment is such a big deal? Yes, STA fans, we all know you have a small enrollment, (541, but all guys) but Roseau's is much smaller (410, co-ed), and they have built a dynasty. Just because a school has a lot of students doesn't mean they're good at hockey (Wayzata, Stillwater) and just because a school has small enrollment doesn't mean they're bad at hockey (STA, Roseau, Warroad, BSM, HM, etc.).

[HShockeywatcher]

Wow, I think it's great that this board hasn't considered the fact that just because a majority agrees on something means it's right. I've been in many situations (as have many) where the minority was right. Just because the staff at STA is choosing to play A doesn't mean they are wrong. These 17 year old kids could be completely wrong in their rational. Lots of respect to all of them, but we all know what they think about at that age; not the big picture.

[hshckfan08]

Wow, I think it's great that this board hasn't considered the fact that just because a majority agrees on something means it's right. I've been in many situations (as have many) where the minority was right. Just because the staff at STA is choosing to play A doesn't mean they are wrong. These 17 year old kids could be completely wrong in their rational. Lots of respect to all of them, but we all know what they think about at that age; not the big picture.

What is the big picture? Either you're playing in A or AA. I dont see much else there.

[FIREHAWK]

STA enrollment is basically the same as it has been for the last 30 years. The school was designed for 500 students and they keep it at those numbers every year. Long before MSHL set enrollemnt numbers for each class.

Maybe the MSHL should look at using some other measure besides enrollment. You have alot of schools with enrollments approaching 2000 that don't have the hockey talent some schools have with way less then 1000 students.

Let's stop the smoke and the mirors. Dog and pony show or whatever you want to call it. Put this one in your pipe and smoke it! Because private schools have the opportunity to RECRUIT, RECRUIT, RECRUIT, they should all be AA, school size or not!!!!!!!!! It has little to do with the size or number of kids at the school and more of their ability to draw quality players end of story.

[ap4mvp]

STA enrollment is basically the same as it has been for the last 30 years. The school was designed for 500 students and they keep it at those numbers every year. Long before MSHL set enrollemnt numbers for each class.

Maybe the MSHL should look at using some other measure besides enrollment. You have alot of schools with enrollments approaching 2000 that don't have the hockey talent some schools have with way less then 1000 students.

Let's stop the smoke and the mirors. Dog and pony show or whatever you want to call it. Put this one in your pipe and smoke it! Because private schools have the opportunity to RECRUIT, RECRUIT, RECRUIT, they should all be AA, school size or not!!!!!!!!! It has little to do with the size or number of kids at the school and more of their ability to draw quality players end of story.

I couldn't agree more, well said

[dherman8]

CNT
Do not act like you not what the kids want. Unless you are very friendly with the players, which i am assuming you're not, do not tell us what the kids want. I, on the other hand, know many players on the team, and i can assure you it is not what all of them want. There may be a few of them who are curious about how they would compete, but overall the consensus of the team does not lean towards opting up. I know there is a quote from Walters in a Millea article last week concerning this, and I can tell you Millea took it out of context.

That's a bold statement. Accusing a writer of something that he would get canned for. Maybe you shouldn't speak for anyone without knowing the truth...huh?

[dherman8]

Couldn't agree more RoyalTreatment. It is posters like CNT who detract from the accomplishments of these kids. The players have nothing to say about which class they play in, but 40 year olds with a lifetime of regrets sit on their computer and knock the state champions. These kids work every bit as hard as all the rest of the teams in the state. If you have a problem with what class they play in, then send a letter to STA's administration. You aren't getting many arguements that they shouldn't move up. They should and do it soon. You are just spouting off and trying trivialize one of the biggest accomplishments these kids will ever have athletically. remember, it is about the kids. Not the grown men with a DSL connection.

WTH are you talking about! go read from the beginning and think it over again!

I back you %100 CNT. It looks like guys such as dangles can't read. CNT ripped the administration and not so much the kids. LEARN TO READ GUYS. The administration is more at fault and that is probably where most of the STA bashers are going with their posts. Everyone is at fault and the admin way more than the players. STA is big enough for AA. Take a page out of the Roseau and Benilde books.

[puckman22]

Is opting up in their destiny?

[HShockeywatcher]

First off, the big picture I'm talking about is school, life, thinking about college, their futures, etc. I could care less who's in what class as a rule of thumb.

FIREHAWK and ap4mvp, I won't write too much on this. It has been posted before, and we all know any good hockey program recruits just as much as any other, not in any illegal way. But having an ice arena on campus, a good school/program, and good coaches attracts players. In addition, by definition of being a private institution private schools need to recruit to exist. I'm not sure, but I'd guess there isn't a huge waiting list to get in with the high tuition cost and such.

dherman8, how is the administration at fault for anything? They are playing in the class they were assigned. I (I'm sure you can too) can think of countless examples of people doing what they were told to do. It would be silly to put them down for not thinking really highly of themselves.
Personally, I was worried about this year. Losing the players the team did from last year. Now this year they are losing their top 5 forwards and 6 of 8 defensemen. Makes me worry about next year.
So, you're saying everyone Roseau's size or bigger who's had a good year should opt up to AA? Really? Our class A would suck then.
If a writer could "get canned" for taking what someone said out of context not very many would have jobs. Writers do it all the time, in the news, newspaper, magazines, all over. They aren't lying about what was said, just the context of what was said.

dangles07, just curious how it was taken out of context? We all know reporters take what people say and put what makes their point.

Just curious if anyone has a list of all the schools in each class, in order, with their enrollments by them?

[Neutron 14]

http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/enrollments07.asp

Notice that Shattuck-Saint Mary's enrollment is 317.

[Joey (nine toes) Marcoux]

Mr. Circletalker sure is curious today

[Neutron 14]

Mr. Circletalker sure is curious today

umm... today???

[packerboy]

http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/enrollments07.asp

Notice that Shattuck-Saint Mary's enrollment is 317.

The mshsl would put them in Class A , even if we had 3 classes.

One of the things that is so goofy is that they have a school with 3000 students in the same class as one with 1300. If enrolment figures are so important then how can you do that? Foobar.

[HShockeywatcher]

I have that page. I'm curious if there is a page anywhere with a list of the schools in each class and their enrollments, showing where teams rank with other teams in their class. It would be interesting to see who's on the bubble.