Gophers at Minnesota State

pacman · Post by **pacman** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:22 pm

Mavericks Tie it up

PASTRAPIDSFAN · Post by **PASTRAPIDSFAN** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:22 pm

2-2 now

pacman · Post by **pacman** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:27 pm

What a game, 5 minutes left in OT, still tied at 1

pacman · Post by **pacman** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:37 pm

Going to Double OT Tied at 1

Zamboni Guy · Post by **Zamboni Guy** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:19 pm

This game has been unbelievable.

pacman · Post by **pacman** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:22 pm

Gophers Win 2-1

pacman · Post by **pacman** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:23 pm

We Will See You at the Xcell,

61ache · Post by **61ache** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:25 pm

Shepard could undoubtedly be the worst ref in the history of hockey. He consistently disallowed 2 goals with men in the crease this weekend, but somehow allows Lucia's goal. WHAT?

Reggie · Post by **Reggie** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:26 pm

61ache wrote:Shepard could undoubtedly be the worst ref in the history of hockey. He consistently disallowed goals with men in the crease, but somehow allows Lucia's goal. WHAT?

Watch the replay, pushed in!

Reggie · Post by **Reggie** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:28 pm

Have you watched a series were a team (MSU) continually ram the goalie and never got called?

Way to hang tough Kangas!

doubleOHseven · Post by **doubleOHseven** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:30 pm

I heard Pohl got rammed pretty good and ended up with a broken nose and concussion. Didn't see the game.... what happened there?

61ache · Post by **61ache** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:31 pm

Reggie wrote:
61ache wrote:Shepard could undoubtedly be the worst ref in the history of hockey. He consistently disallowed goals with men in the crease, but somehow allows Lucia's goal. WHAT?
Watch the replay, pushed in!

Yeah I watched the replay, unlike Shepard. I'm not a Mankato fan, but I'm gonna call a spade a spade. That "goal" was no more a goal then the one that disallowed earlier tonight.

61ache · Post by **61ache** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:33 pm

Reggie wrote:Have you watched a series were a team (MSU) continually ram the goalie and never got called?

Way to hang tough Kangas!

This is just like a Sioux game, the poor picked on Gophers. Really? Game I watched there was plenty of thuggery on both sides.

61ache · Post by **61ache** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:35 pm

doubleOHseven wrote:I heard Pohl got rammed pretty good and ended up with a broken nose and concussion. Didn't see the game.... what happened there?

He was in a goofy position and got hit. Guy who hit him got a game d.q. Wasn't anything overtly dirty, considering the grimy hits by both sides in this game...

onbison09 · Post by **onbison09** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:44 pm

What's the Gophers chances of making the tournament

DmanDad1980 · Post by **DmanDad1980** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:51 pm

onbison09 wrote:What's the Gophers chances of making the tournament

Gophers are in
Pairwise shows them alone at #11, and now playing higher ranked teams at Final Five, even if it is one loss in the 4/5 playin game, will help them stay where their at or move higher with some wins in St. Paul.

NCAA picks 16, the two small college conferences get one team each, Air Force & Niagara, then other 14 will be according to pairwise, or it has been the last 5-6 years

Gophs at 11 are in...

Gopher Blog · Post by **Gopher Blog** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:58 pm

Reggie wrote:Watch the replay, pushed in!

He definitely got nudged into the crease by the Maverick player. The ref made the right call on that one.

A hard fought series. Not sure how much the Gophers will have left in the tank for the Final 5 though. I can't see them winning three games at the Final Five after the series they just had. That's a pretty tough road. But it was nice to win the series.

new2hockey · Post by **new2hockey** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:10 am

According to KTOE, through gopher parents, Pohl is going to Rochester with a possible skull fracture. Unfortunate play, but I don't think it was dirty enough to warrant a game DQ, just a hard hit in an awkward place.

Shepherd's lips seemed to freeze again when the game was on the line.

SEMinnHockeyNut · Post by **SEMinnHockeyNut** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:25 am

Alex Kangas - CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP! WOW! .966 saves % in the series.

I hope Pohl is going to be ok.

The goal was legit...Lucia was clearly pushed in by the MSU D-man and he did a great job poking the puck in to win it.

I hope the Mavs still make the NCAA tourney - they deserve it.

boblee · Post by **boblee** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:36 am

There was absolutely no reason to disallow that goal. He did not interfere the goaltender by his own force at all. What a series. That was some of the most fun I have ever had watching hockey.

new2hockey · Post by **new2hockey** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:41 am

delete

Zimmy · Post by **Zimmy** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:48 am

If the Gophers get the Shepard brothers to ref their games the rest of the way out we are looking at the next National Champs!!!!!!!!

PuckRanger · Post by **PuckRanger** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 4:52 am

new2hockey wrote:In the WCHA he doesn't have to interfere, just be in the crease. However, he was NUDGED in. Why did the green light go on before the red light is my question?

Because the goal judge was slower than the clock operator. Thats all. Green light goes on when the clock stops, red light goes on when the switch is flipped.

The NCAA does have the crease rules that allow a player to go in the crease before a goal is scored. Here is the rule change:

Rule 6-19-c (7), Goals and Assists. The committee changed this rule to read:
"c. A goal shall not be allowed in any of the following cases:...
(7) If any member of the attacking team (other than the player in possession of the puck) was in or skating throught the goal crease when the goal was scored from outside the crease, unless:
i. The goalkeeper was outside the crease when the goal was scored; or
ii. An attacking player was in the crease but, in the opinion of the official, did not prevent the goalkeeper from defending the goal."

Rationale: In response to overwhelming support from the coaching community, the committee decided to allow the referee more discretion when goals are scored with a player in the goalkeeper's crease. This comes into play most often when video replay is used (e.g., NCAA championships) and goals are disallowed that would have been allowed during the regular season. The committee will reinforce that this should not be seen as lessening the protection of the goalkeeper; however, when an attacking player does not affect an otherwise legal goal, the committee feels it should be allowed.

Lucia did in no way make contact with the goaltender before he knocked the puck in, nor did he interfere with the goaltender's ability to make the save. Whether he was pushed in or not is irrelevant. The call was 100% correct.

The goal that 61ache brought up from earlier in the game, was never a disallowed goal. 1) The puck was never in the net - Kangas kept his glove outside the red line as he was barreled into the net. 2) Even if it were across the goal line, it was because of the contact with the goaltender from the Mankato player. Your not calling a spade a spade, your calling a spade a diamond - these were not even close to the same scenario. I should point out that there was no objection from the Mankato bench, goalie, or players when the winning goal was scored. The goal was only reviewed as more of a formality - not at the request of the Mankato.

PASTRAPIDSFAN · Post by **PASTRAPIDSFAN** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:41 am

Great game, see ya in st.paul

61ache · Post by **61ache** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:22 am

Lucia is pushed in, from about the top of the circle, shot on net, goaltender covers and Lucia wacks it in before a whistle. 9 games out of 10 I'm tipping my hat to Lucia for a heads up play--Gophers get a bounce and move on. In fact the outcome I'd been hoping for cause if we're really lucky we'll see another Sioux Gopher game, and after the last game and the bad blood between the two should make for an awesome spectacle.

However, if you consistently disallow goals for goaltender interference against one team, and then allow a goal, in o.t. for the other where an argument can easily be made comparing goals d.q'd prior--this is the issue. This isn't about the Gophers stealing one, or Mankato getting robbed, but of pure and simple bad and inconsistent officiating. Period. If you don't see the officiating issue you're really lying to yourself. Everyone on here I'm sure is perfectly aware of Shepard's history. It's about time that the WCHA takes care of the problem. He's been involved in altercations, complaining, and suspensions from coaches and players around the league protesting his abysmal performance, and yet the league does nothing. Ridiculous.

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