Official Bantam B 2007-2008

STickem · Post by **STickem** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:50 pm

What happened with Blakes starting goalie. I heard his dad was coach and was fired, so he ended up not even bringing his kid to the game. Is this true?

EagleGuy91 · Post by **EagleGuy91** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:12 am

STickem wrote:What happened with Blakes starting goalie. I heard his dad was coach and was fired, so he ended up not even bringing his kid to the game. Is this true?

Not sure what happened, but all the coaches are non-parent coaches, so it wasn't that scenario.

KOHO · Post by **KOHO** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:51 am

When Tonka played them in the semi-final they scored 3 goals on a goaltender in the first period and they switched goalies. Maybe his dad didn't like that and didn't show up for the next game?

ninety5 · Post by **ninety5** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:20 am

Tonka=very solid team
Wayzata=very solid team
Richfield=gutty performance
Moorhead and Duluth=refused to give up
Centennial=played hearts out
RLF=didn't see them play but let's give credit where it's due, they made it a long way, congrats

Hats off to the kids who play hard regardless of the labeled level of their team, to the coaches who put in the hours and everyone who cares about the end goal of fun, competition and learning something too.

findme · Post by **findme** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:13 pm

Centennial=played their hearts out...extremely talented group of young men. Very unfortunate as it looked like they had lack of quality coaching.

STickem · Post by **STickem** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 10:14 pm

Thanks

bladetape48 · Post by **bladetape48** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:18 pm

bladetape48

findme · Post by **findme** » Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:27 pm

Why is Blake not playing Bantam A level? Just trying to understand that if a private has the numbers to field a Bantam team-why play B?

STickem · Post by **STickem** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 5:23 pm

becuase they would get owned

DannyNoonan · Post by **DannyNoonan** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:17 pm

STickem wrote:becuase they would get owned

And that would make those poor private school boys feel bad. Its better for their self esteem if they have their A team play against everyone else's B teams.

bladetape48 · Post by **bladetape48** » Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:35 pm

bladetape48

Duluth 4 · Post by **Duluth 4** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:24 am

bladetape48 wrote:
DannyNoonan wrote:
STickem wrote:becuase they would get owned
And that would make those poor private school boys feel bad. Its better for their self esteem if they have their A team play against everyone else's B teams.
y do u guys think blake should have an A team wayzata played up to their skill, maybe u guys shouldn't have a B team

maybe just maybe bladetape if your smart you would figure out that wayzata is the only other team in the state who stacked a b1 team

EagleGuy91 · Post by **EagleGuy91** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:21 am

No, actually that list would include Minnetonka, Centennial (Red) and Burnsville - all of whom had enough kids to field two equal Bantam B teams, but decisions were made by the associations to field their players 16-30 (plus goalies 3&4) on a single B team.

Wayzata certainly could have divided their B teams equally across the three teams, but decides not to each year. Districts 3 and 10 allow this (thus Cent Red is the top B kids and Cent Black is the next set of B kids, they are not picked equally). District 6, for example, holds its membership to equally choosing any two teams playing at an equivalent level. Many have made cases for both processes.

Every year there are teams that make State (or Regions) that are B teams in associations without A teams - recently Princeton, Chisago Lakes, Red Lake Falls, Richfield, etc. In my 5 years at Bantam B, I haven't seen any of those teams - including Blake - dominate all opponents to the point I felt they should have played at the A level. They were successful at B, but not misplaced.

There isn't - nor should there be - any policy that the best group of kids need to play at the A level. The best group of kids in any association needs to play at the level they are best suited to play. For many this means the top team at a level in an association is a B team. It will - and should - remain that way.

Oh, and it's "you're" not "your" when referring to bladetape's smartness. And if you're smart, you would do your research first.

cajones18 · Post by **cajones18** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:47 am

EagleGuy91 wrote:No, actually that list would include Minnetonka, Centennial (Red) and Burnsville - all of whom had enough kids to field two equal Bantam B teams, but decisions were made by the associations to field their players 16-30 (plus goalies 3&4) on a single B team.

Wayzata certainly could have divided their B teams equally across the three teams, but decides not to each year. Districts 3 and 10 allow this (thus Cent Red is the top B kids and Cent Black is the next set of B kids, they are not picked equally). District 6, for example, holds its membership to equally choosing any two teams playing at an equivalent level. Many have made cases for both processes.

Every year there are teams that make State (or Regions) that are B teams in associations without A teams - recently Princeton, Chisago Lakes, Red Lake Falls, Richfield, etc. In my 5 years at Bantam B, I haven't seen any of those teams - including Blake - dominate all opponents to the point I felt they should have played at the A level. They were successful at B, but not misplaced.

There isn't - nor should there be - any policy that the best group of kids need to play at the A level. The best group of kids in any association needs to play at the level they are best suited to play. For many this means the top team at a level in an association is a B team. It will - and should - remain that way.

Oh, and it's "you're" not "your" when referring to bladetape's smartness. And if you're smart, you would do your research first.

Don't you feel important.. Mr. Know it all. Geeze he spelt you're wrong. OMG lets all whine about it for a while.

Snappedshot · Post by **Snappedshot** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:16 pm

Cajones - You need to look at the context of the post. Most people wouldn't point out misspellings except for the fact the he said "if your smart". The irony of that statement is too hard to pass up. Try to keep up.

cajones18 · Post by **cajones18** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:25 pm

Snappedshot wrote:Cajones - You need to look at the context of the post. Most people wouldn't point out misspellings except for the fact the he said "if your smart". The irony of that statement is too hard to pass up. Try to keep up.

And your point?

EagleGuy91 · Post by **EagleGuy91** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:27 pm

1) I am important, just not to you and I am ok with that.
2) Spelled doesn't have a t.
3) This is a little off topic, but why do I have to sit idly by while many of the youth butcher the English language without care or consequence?
4) If you want to continue to be carefree in your speech and writing, then pump my gas! Otherwise, put a little effort into your book-learning and one day I am the one who will be thanking you for the $.25/hour raise in my salary.

I've wasted my fair share of my talents and wish I had it to do over again. You can either keep up and soon pass me by, or you can languish behind. Regardless, I will not stop for you to catch up or come backwards so you can feel good about yourself.

cajones18 · Post by **cajones18** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:31 pm

EagleGuy91 wrote:1) I am important, just not to you and I am ok with that.
2) Spelled doesn't have a t.
3) This is a little off topic, but why do I have to sit idly by while many of the youth butcher the English language without care or consequence?
4) If you want to continue to be carefree in your speech and writing, then pump my gas! Otherwise, put a little effort into your book-learning and one day I am the one who will be thanking you for the $.25/hour raise in my salary.

I've wasted my fair share of my talents and wish I had it to do over again. You can either keep up and soon pass me by, or you can languish behind. Regardless, I will not stop for you to catch up or come backwards so you can feel good about yourself.

So I take it that you were an english teacher back in your day? Or you still are?

EagleGuy91 · Post by **EagleGuy91** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:38 pm

cajones18 wrote: So I take it that you were an english teacher back in your day? Or you still are?

Incorrect.

blueblood · Post by **blueblood** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 1:20 pm

What's the deal dude? Someone pee in your wheaties?

EG91 is one of the top youth coaches in the state and he knows what he's talking about. He knows the bantam b scene in this state as well as anyone and will call a spade a spade when he sees it.

demongoed · Post by **demongoed** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:16 pm

Eagleguy's analysis is good, but a little off. I don't think that you can lump Tonka in with EP and Wayzata. Tonka, I believe, had almost a team's worth fewer skaters at the Bantam level than EP. While the two associations had the same number of teams, Tonka's teams were smaller. For example, there were 14 skaters at the A and B1 levels for Tonka, and the 2 B2 teams had only 12. EP Red B1 had 16 skaters and at least one of their B2 teams had 15. While the A and B1 teams for Tonka did have 2 goalies, all other Bantam teams had only 1. Not true for EP. This is not to say that Tonka couldn't have created two B1 teams, but they wouldn't have had the same sized pool as EP to draw from.

EagleGuy91 · Post by **EagleGuy91** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 2:40 pm

Fair enough. The question then would be about Mtka's C level teams. Looks like they had two. What were the quantities of those teams? Not a big point, as the rebuttal wasn't about outing Minnetonka, but providing additional teams for the Wayzata-only argument. I don't necessarily fault any association for their decisions as long as they are thought-out and agreed upon within the association . . .and generally consistent.

Now, even though they didn't win the playoffs, since Minnetonka had the #1 and #3 finishing teams in Bantam B2 league play, a case can be made for them having the talent to have fielded two B1 teams. I will concede that this is after the fact information and not something the minds knew at decision time.

I suspect they had enough kids to select two B1 teams and let their C teams have fewer kids. The trend is to have fewer kids at either the higher levels or at all levels (and have more teams). I understand why it seems to be the trend, but don't agree with it.

sixbucksagallon · Post by **sixbucksagallon** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:14 pm

Eg, I take offense to the "pump my gas comment" as I do that for a living. I may not live in the "upscale" Eden Prairie, but you should know that not all people look down at us. In fact, in my opinion, anyone that works and is willing to take pride in their work will get my respect. I think you are being just as "carefree" or careless in your writing as he is in his spelling. Blue collar workers are what made this country what it is today. If it's not a "gas pumper" it may be a ditch digger, or a woodworker. So get off your "higher than thou" attitude about the english language and proper spellings, and start thinking about the content of your writings.

Btw. Minnetonka had 62 Bantams tryout how many did Eden Prairie have?

EagleGuy91 · Post by **EagleGuy91** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 3:57 pm

Well, before you define me as higher than thou, you should first find out more about me. What I do, where I live, etc. You would discover that I don't live in Eden Prairie, which would still mean nothing as I know blue-collar folks in Eden Prairie and white-collar folks in Inver Grove Heights. Which color is my collar?

I am having a math problem now, so I need some more help. You say Mtka had 62 players trying out. Demon says 14 at A, 14 at B, 12 at each of the B2. District 6 says they also fielded 2 C teams (again finishing #1 and #3 in the standings). 62 minus 14 (A) minus 14 (B1) minus 12 (B2W) minus 12 (B2B) equals . . .10 players divided by 2 (C teams) equals . . .5 players per C team in Minnetonka? That's taking the "smaller teams" concept to an extreme.

I don't have the EP numbers with me, but I believe it was around 90. How did EP and Minnetonka both field the same number of Bantam teams (6) with a differential in registrations of 30 kids??

bladetape48 · Post by **bladetape48** » Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:40 pm

u all need to calm down

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