Select 17

[mnhockey2431]

I was wondering who all made the 17's

[pondhockeyfan19]

5A/5AA Advanced 17's Team Roster

Charlie Aus Centennial D
Andrew Doig Duluth Denfeld D
Tony Larson Blaine D
Matt Blomquist Blaine D
Joe Schmitz Centennial D
James Hansen Osseo D
Jon Macey Proctor D
Luke Bayer Blaine F
Michael Woods Champlain Park F
Kevin Nagan Denfeld F
Gavin Tufte Blaine F
Jordan Lovick Centennial F
Grant Huttel Hermantown F
Jake Jensen Blaine F
Tyler Pitlick Centennial F
Adam Krause Hermantown F
Codie Hotchkins Duluth Denfeld F
Joe Bartlett Maple Grove F
Danny Harper Blaine G
Lance Bortot Irondale G
Alternate Joshua Groth North Metro G
Alternate Josh Wentz Duluth Denfeld
Alternate Jesse Ramsey Rogers
Alternate Nick Shodeen Princeton

[Puckguy19]

Section 8

Grove - Crookston
Mekash - Roseau

Cochran - Moorhead
Ortenblad - Buffalo
Weston - Roseau
Welle - Bemidji
Rusk - Brainerd
Hasbargen - Lake of the Woods

Oliver - Roseau
Maetche - St. Cloud Tech
Nelson - Warroad
Erickson - Roseau
Nemgar - Bemidji
Blaisdell - Buffalo
Ackmann - Buffalo
Castle - Thief River Falls
Rees - Bemidji
Curb - Bemidji
Useldinger - East Grand Forks
Terry - River Lakes

[Lakeviewing]

Anyone hear of the Section 6 selctions?

[LetsPlayHockey22]

Setion 7a/7aa tryouts were today, anyone know the roster?

[davey]

Section 1A/1AA

Ben Montgomery Shattuck
Peter Spratte Rochester Lourdes
Jake Binder Lakeville South
Erik Johnson Owatonna
George Richie Faribault
Cole Peterson Rochester Lourdes
Jordan Preschar Smerud Albert Lea
Schyler Adams New Prague
Tyler Voigt Rochester Lourdes
Ryan Dwyer Faribault
Tom Alexander Rochester Mayo
Tyler Lapic New Prague
Bryan Mitchell Red Wing
Brad Foster Lakeville North
Andrew Bruggeman Mankato West
Bo Putrah Faribault
Charlie Hexum Rochester Lourdes
Devon Grossell Winona
Tyler Bruggeman Mankato West
Matt Arentz Lakeville North

[Charliedog]

Doe anyone have the 4A/AA roster? Thanks

[breakout]

Who are the standouts?

Any predictions on who will go to Rochester, NY in July?

[Observer85]

Who are the standouts?

Any predictions on who will go to Rochester, NY in July?

17's (and 15's) go to St Cloud, 14's and 16's go to Rochester.

[davey]

Section 1AA/1A wins the Championship over 6AA/6A 7-1. Game was 2-1 after the first half before Secton 1 dominated the second half and put in 5 goals.
Section 1 takes both the great 8 and Advanced 17 Championships.

[flatontheice]

Section 1AA/1A wins the Championship over 6AA/6A 7-1. Game was 2-1 after the first half before Secton 1 dominated the second half and put in 5 goals.
Section 1 takes both the great 8 and Advanced 17 Championships.

Why can't Section 1 do anything in the State Tournament?

[Black Ice]

Section 1AA/1A wins the Championship over 6AA/6A 7-1. Game was 2-1 after the first half before Secton 1 dominated the second half and put in 5 goals.
Section 1 takes both the great 8 and Advanced 17 Championships.

Why can't Section 1 do anything in the State Tournament?

Several reasons: Rochester publics split into smaller schools rather than just a couple of very large schools. Previously they had a history of success in the AA. In the current 1A there is only 1 private (lourdes) and they were a jr. dominated team. Next year they will be one of the best in the state. Rochester and Mankato are the only cities big enough to field multiple teams. Transferring in Mankato for sports is discouraged, so they don't load up one team. In general the teams across southern mn. are too far apart to do much transferring. The talent is there, but it is more spread out. Also there aren't many teams that have a strong history of success in hockey like Roseau, Warroad, Duluth, etc. So you don't get as many of the good athletes going out for hockey.

[happymama]

2008 Advanced 17's-BOYS'
Final 54 , April 18-20, 2008 Plymouth Ice Center

Blue Team
1 D Nick Leddy
2 D Jordan Kresbach
3 D Mark Alt
4 D Joe Faust
5 D Tony Larson
6 D Ben Montgomery
7 F Tyler Pitlick
8 F Nick Oliver
9 F Tyler Zepeda
10 F Christopher Westin
11 F Caleb Herbert
12 F Cody Hotchkins
13 F Jared Maetche
14 F Joseph Rehkamp
15 F Archie Skalbeck
16 F Brett Skoog
61 G Tyler Bruggeman
62 G Matt Arentz

Red Team
21 D Tyler Lapic
22 D Garrett Orhn
23 D Tom Fallen
24 D James Hansen
25 D Izaak Berglund
26 D Troy Hesketh
27 F Zach Budish
28 F Josh Birkholz
29 F Skyler Adams
30 F Isacc Kohls
31 F Connor Gaarder
32 F Adam Krause
33 F Michael Anderson
34 F Chad Hennum
35 F Patrick Mahoney
36 F Michael Friedman
63 G Matt Hemingway
64 G Trent Casper

White Team
41 D Chris Benson
42 D Blake Thompson
43 D Jordan Johnson
44 D Nate Schmidt
45 D Peter Spratte
46 D Mik Ortenblad
47 F Ryan Walters
48 F Tyler Voight
49 F Cole Peterson
50 F Jeff Westerhaus
51 F Ben Persian
52 F Kevin Erickson
53 F Jordan Lovick
54 F Tom Alexander
55 F Scott Holm
56 F Ryan Reilly
65 G Alex Fons
66 G Paul Moberg

[recenthockeyfan]

Best of luck to all of these boys who earned their place. Like anything else, this is just one person's opinion - mine. At the risk of looking like I have too much time on my hands and not claiming to be the brightest hockey bulb, I’m going to throw some information out here and hope that someone helps me understand how this evaluation works for the new and improved Selects.

Section 1 - total of 9 (1st place)
Section 2 - total of 9 (5th/6th place)
Section 3 - total of 3 (last place)
Section 4 - total of 7 (3rd place)
Section 5 - total of 7 (4th place)
Section 6 - total of 9 (2nd place)
Section 7 - total of 6 (5th/6th place)
Section 8 - total of 4 (7th place)

On the surface only the Section 2 selects really stands out, but dig deeper. Sorry about not knowing the 5th/6th place game.

Section 6 has a good 1st game against what ends up to be the last place team, wins in OT, gets creamed in the final, and every one of their D and two of three (?) goalies make the final 51.

Section 1 "dominates" (previous post) in at least 2 of their games, wins the whole thing and only 3 of their F’s are selected?

Section 2, playing for 5th/6th and not much scoring, gets as many kids total taken as the first and second place teams, more than the 4th and 5th place teams, and 7(!) are Forwards, but yet, a goalie from any team that beat all of these 7 Forwards isn't selected.

There might even be a Defense player placed that didn't even play, at least not every game, that got selected from Section 5. The other two goalies taken are from the last place and 5th/6th place team.

Factoring in season stats makes it even more confusing. Can anyone make sense of on this?

[davey]

Best of luck to all of these boys who earned their place. Like anything else, this is just one person's opinion - mine. At the risk of looking like I have too much time on my hands and not claiming to be the brightest hockey bulb, I’m going to throw some information out here and hope that someone helps me understand how this evaluation works for the new and improved Selects.

Section 1 - total of 9 (1st place)
Section 2 - total of 9 (5th/6th place)
Section 3 - total of 3 (last place)
Section 4 - total of 7 (3rd place)
Section 5 - total of 7 (4th place)
Section 6 - total of 9 (2nd place)
Section 7 - total of 6 (5th/6th place)
Section 8 - total of 4 (7th place)

On the surface only the Section 2 selects really stands out, but dig deeper. Sorry about not knowing the 5th/6th place game.

Section 6 has a good 1st game against what ends up to be the last place team, wins in OT, gets creamed in the final, and every one of their D and two of three (?) goalies make the final 51.

Section 1 "dominates" (previous post) in at least 2 of their games, wins the whole thing and only 3 of their F’s are selected?

Section 2, playing for 5th/6th and not much scoring, gets as many kids total taken as the first and second place teams, more than the 4th and 5th place teams, and 7(!) are Forwards, but yet, a goalie from any team that beat all of these 7 Forwards isn't selected.

There might even be a Defense player placed that didn't even play, at least not every game, that got selected from Section 5. The other two goalies taken are from the last place and 5th/6th place team.

Factoring in season stats makes it even more confusing. Can anyone make sense of on this?

Actually, Section 1 had 8 players make the cut, not 9. 4 forwards, 2 D and both goalies. What's interesting to me is that there are 4 kids that made the National festival last year as 16's and did not make the cut here. There are always a couple of questionable picks in peoples minds, but for the most part they get it pretty good.

[recenthockeyfan]

Montgomery,Spratte,Peterson,Adams,Voigt,Alexander,Lapic and 2 goalies makes 9. Did one of them decline?

[DannyCalifornia]

"There might even be a Defense player placed that didn't even play, at least not every game, that got selected from Section 5."

That would be Nate Schimdt. Broken wrist-did not play at all. But I think all "in the know" would agree probably in the top 3-5 def. in state for age group.

[davey]

Montgomery,Spratte,Peterson,Adams,Voigt,Alexander,Lapic and 2 goalies makes 9. Did one of them decline?

My bad!

[recenthockeyfan]

This should absolutely be about getting the right kids in place. I only hope Mr. Schmidt's wrist heals well, and he, in fact, gets to take advantage of the spot he was given over another healthy lad that did and could continue to play at this time.

I'd really like a clearer window into that "intelligence gathering" of decision making. Obviously I'm not "in the know". Are you one of those guys, or do you just have your nose pressed against the foggy glass like me?

[toepull7]

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:10 pm Post subject:

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davey wrote:
Section 1AA/1A wins the Championship over 6AA/6A 7-1. Game was 2-1 after the first half before Secton 1 dominated the second half and put in 5 goals.
Section 1 takes both the great 8 and Advanced 17 Championships.


Why can't Section 1 do anything in the State Tournament?

Section 1 is just now (within the last year or 2) starting to really see the top teams in the section making bigger impacts than in the past......I think you will see a Section 1 team within the next 1-3 years definitely push into that State Championship caliber type team and win it. This is showing up at the Great 8 and the Select now and in the past it has not been as solid.[/quote]

[gomnhky]

Is it just me or does Nate Schmidt seem to be a tad bit injury prone? It seems I have read about him having a broken wrist and ankle previously. Not to take anything away from the kid's talent and is definitely one of the top defensemen in his respective age group, but just making a general observation.

[happymama]

I noticed that the other Reily from holy angels is not on the final 54 team. Did he have a bad tryout or is he one that they missed in the process? I know that he had a good year for holy angels and I would have thought that he would have had a good shot to make this team.

[eastranger19]

Congrats to the kids who "made it", If like normal I would say about 20 of the 54 made it by playing well. Another 25 of 54 are like Nate Schmidt who is one of the top players at that age and should be on the team if your taking your best. The remaining 9 of 54 are either put on the teams because of somebody who is coaching or evaluating, same as the section teams, alot of east kids and I'am sure kids from other places don't even tryout. Thats to bad, they get a lot of exposure through selects. But it can get a little shadey when you have your High school coaches and youth coaches and I heard even some kids fathers were evaluating, it's not on the up & up for all. If it is, sounds like we will certainly see virginia at the excel next year, sounds like they had a pile of elites at both levels. But we'll see. Is there any stats out on the kids that made the 54?

[davey]

Congrats to the kids who "made it", If like normal I would say about 20 of the 54 made it by playing well. Another 25 of 54 are like Nate Schmidt who is one of the top players at that age and should be on the team if your taking your best. The remaining 9 of 54 are either put on the teams because of somebody who is coaching or evaluating, same as the section teams, alot of east kids and I'am sure kids from other places don't even tryout. Thats to bad, they get a lot of exposure through selects. But it can get a little shadey when you have your High school coaches and youth coaches and I heard even some kids fathers were evaluating, it's not on the up & up for all. If it is, sounds like we will certainly see virginia at the excel next year, sounds like they had a pile of elites at both levels. But we'll see. Is there any stats out on the kids that made the 54?

Over on Gopher Puck Live, Iceburg has all of the season stats for the 54 players selected. Most players have very good numbers for the season and while I know stats do not tell everything, i think they can be an indicator of how each player performed during the season. Only 2 forwards stats jumped out at me. One had 7 points for the year and the other had 5pts for the year. I do not know whether each player had some injury problems during the season or what, they just kind of jumped out at me. Not saying they are not deserving kids as the evaluation process is in the eyes of the beholder.

[eastranger19]

Congrats to the kids who "made it", If like normal I would say about 20 of the 54 made it by playing well. Another 25 of 54 are like Nate Schmidt who is one of the top players at that age and should be on the team if your taking your best. The remaining 9 of 54 are either put on the teams because of somebody who is coaching or evaluating, same as the section teams, alot of east kids and I'am sure kids from other places don't even tryout. Thats to bad, they get a lot of exposure through selects. But it can get a little shadey when you have your High school coaches and youth coaches and I heard even some kids fathers were evaluating, it's not on the up & up for all. If it is, sounds like we will certainly see virginia at the excel next year, sounds like they had a pile of elites at both levels. But we'll see. Is there any stats out on the kids that made the 54?

Over on Gopher Puck Live, Iceburg has all of the season stats for the 54 players selected. Most players have very good numbers for the season and while I know stats do not tell everything, i think they can be an indicator of how each player performed during the season. Only 2 forwards stats jumped out at me. One had 7 points for the year and the other had 5pts for the year. I do not know whether each player had some injury problems during the season or what, they just kind of jumped out at me. Not saying they are not deserving kids as the evaluation process is in the eyes of the beholder.

How about last weekend, out of the 54 remaining, who were the big point getters and who did nothing, but still made it, I would bet that the 9 of 54 did'nt do much, and the remaining 45 contributed either points or +/-'s. Just how I've seen it in the past.