MAHA mtg & tournament fee

[elliott70]

This may also be of interest.

During the committee meetings it wsa mentioned that we are pretty well off financially (money in the bank).

During tourney committees, I suggested that we cut the fee to sanctin a tournament from $100 to $50. A couple of VPs argued that the fee was only $50, but that was settled.
I told them in 1994 while I was at a meeting a $25 fee was initiated to cover the costs of sanctioning and allow for a small slush fund in case something came up. Around 1998 the fee ws increased to $50, the reason given at the time was to build some funds to develop a squirt development program.
A few years after that the $100 fee was initiated to try and suppress the number of tourneys being held.
Last season this fee brought in close to $80,000 for MH.

I was told by the treasurer, no less, that MH needed this revenue. Without it we would be in financial difficulty. I suggested that we could probably trim our costs by $40,000 fairly easily. I was rebuffed.

The fee remains at $100 and MH remains financially fit and fat.
At who's expense?

[punchinbag]

How much of the current MH budget goes to supplement Adult Hockey in the State? How much do they generate in return?

I know that MH covers all hockey in the State but was just wondering if the split was equitable. Meaning, if they bring in 10% of the revenue do they get 10% of the spending in return?

Also, how much of the budget goes to the "non-winter" hockey activities such as Advanced, Select programs etc?

[watchdog]

if you want to see serious numbers start crunchin the numbers from selects try out process. i beleive thats a usa hockey event but im sure minnesota hockey is not losing any money on it. take all the kids trying out and the fee for each step in the process and its stagering! with the price of hockey as it is i think events put on by non private organization should be alot cheaper..

[punchinbag]

Amen brudda!! Hope all is well up nort!

[High Flyer]

if you want to see serious numbers start crunchin the numbers from selects try out process. i beleive thats a usa hockey event but im sure minnesota hockey is not losing any money on it. take all the kids trying out and the fee for each step in the process and its stagering! with the price of hockey as it is i think events put on by non private organization should be alot cheaper..

Here is the MH 2007/2008 budget for just the MN select 15’s this year:

$125,350 income

$104,460 expense

$20,890 profit

[High Flyer]

if you want to see serious numbers start crunchin the numbers from selects try out process. i beleive thats a usa hockey event but im sure minnesota hockey is not losing any money on it. take all the kids trying out and the fee for each step in the process and its stagering! with the price of hockey as it is i think events put on by non private organization should be alot cheaper..

Here is an example of the total expenses (combined) that just one family from the metro area can incur for the select 15’s this year.

District tryouts $ 40

MN Spring Festival $ 180

MN Summer Festival $ 720

USA Summer Festival $ 1155

If you are an non-metro area kid, your family would probably have addtional expenses for hotels at the spring festival and summer festivals.

[Can't Never Tried]

if you want to see serious numbers start crunchin the numbers from selects try out process. i beleive thats a usa hockey event but im sure minnesota hockey is not losing any money on it. take all the kids trying out and the fee for each step in the process and its stagering! with the price of hockey as it is i think events put on by non private organization should be alot cheaper..

Here is the MH 2007/2008 budget for just the MN select 15’s this year:

$125,350 income

$104,460 expense

$20,890 profit

What in the world can make it cost $104K

[21troll]

If I did this correctrly, here is the approved budget for the year 2007 - 2008, approved on June 23, 2007...http://www.minnesotahockey.org/assorted/For%20Web.pdf

In reviewing this budget, I have a few concerns:

THERE IS A LOT OF RED!

ACE Program loses $8,915.00
HEP Program loses $50,620.00 (However, I thought this was/there where some funding from the MAYO Clinic ????)

Here is the big one: Executive Director $134, 493.00 Is this Mark Jorgensons' Salary?

Board of Directors operating at a $27,823.00 lose???

Where are the funds that should be put back into the youth programs?

[watchdog]

cant never- thats what i was gona say!!!!! i had no idea ice rental was so high for a weekend????? we will see how the profits are now that its WELL KNOWN that as a 16 the tryout is mute unless you played high school hockey. the numbers will go down. as a money maker its funny how people will cut their own throat...

[elliott70]

If I did this correctrly, here is the approved budget for the year 2007 - 2008, approved on June 23, 2007...http://www.minnesotahockey.org/assorted/For%20Web.pdf

In reviewing this budget, I have a few concerns:

THERE IS A LOT OF RED!

ACE Program loses $8,915.00
Program has no associated revenue. This covers a variety of things, mostly meetings for the district ACE cooridantors.
Perhaps some of the better money spent by MH.
HEP Program loses $50,620.00 (However, I thought this was/there where some funding from the MAYO Clinic ????)
No MAYO funding. there contribution to the program (and it is not MAYO, but sports & fitness (?) division, which I have been told is not officailly MAYO) is in intern hours that evaluate teh HEP data.

Here is the big one: Executive Director $134, 493.00 Is this Mark Jorgensons' Salary? This is his salary, his assistant's salary and other budget items. Initially, this fee was to be offset by corporate sponsors and still is, but not shown that way on the budget. Teh ED has made life easier for DD's, I can tell you that. The webpage also ahs been very succesful and useful. Cost/benefit??? I have never analyzed it and not sure if I know enough about metro econ to do so.

Board of Directors operating at a $27,823.00 lose???
Actually much higher than that because of offset by corporate sponsors income which should be used to offset executive director and web page costs.
Where are the funds that should be put back into the youth programs?
Good question.

We have a minimum of 4 meetings a year. We start Friday night and run through Sunday (most of the time noon). Most everyone stays a the motel/hotel. We are fed Friday night, Sat afternoon and evening. Breakfast and meals on the road while traveling can be reimbursed. Miles are reimbursed at 42 cents per mile if I remember right. I amnot sure because I do not always submit the form or if I do I just use 40 cents because the math is easier. I do not know what is allowed for breakfast or meals on the road as I do not think I have ever asked for those reimbursements.

Many suggestions have been made as to how to cut these costs.
The controller, Jim Bullard, does a good job of trying to minimize costs and make sure people are providing correct expense reports.
But no one (most) wants to cut into what is going into their own pocket.

But we could eliminate the Friday meal, the Saturday lunch. Two or three of the meetings could be completed without a Friday night motel for most people.

We send 5 people to the USA Hockey meetings twice a year, but for hte most part that is paid by USA Hockey. But where does USA Hockey get its money?