If you have contacted MH re: single site state championship

council member retired · Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:44 pm

Please post here if you have sent a response to MN Hockey regarding your displeasure of a single site Championship Sunday state youth tournament.

Step 1 :

1. Name sent too

2. method of contact : email , phone call , letter

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:22 am

I have been cc'd on about 8 emails addressed to the MH board.
It appeared to be about 3 metro, 3 D16, 2 other outstate, although I do not know for sure of the source.

If we could get about 200 more that would be good.

greybeard58 · Post by **greybeard58** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:02 am

Since a lot of people do not think their voice counts, they choose not to get involved or even communicate. Here is your chance to have your voice heard and counted.
I know Elliott would like 200 more, but to have an impact you will need 2000 to 20,000 more, that would get their attention, I would hope to get at least 27,000 that would be over half of the registered membership the 12 District's that the District Directors represent.

watchdog · Post by **watchdog** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:25 pm

i sent an email to mark jorgenson i believe it was. he didnt get a vote but he can forward it to who ever.

pucks are funny · Post by **pucks are funny** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 2:37 pm

I sent a e-mail to my district director and to a J. Demeo
I asked them if they had thought what the kids want ? Stating I believe many of them will care less about watching another youth game when their season is over, and that the metro kids would rather go out of town and stay in a hotel then drive to Blaine and then the X.

whockeyguy · Post by **whockeyguy** » Wed Apr 30, 2008 7:35 pm

I have, not a very good reponse either, thier heads are stuck in the sand

Pucknutz69 · Post by **Pucknutz69** » Thu May 01, 2008 11:55 am

Unless you read this board or mn hockey website most members of mn hockey don't even know this is going on. Maybe emails to your local associations would be in order.

CB00 · Post by **CB00** » Thu May 01, 2008 1:26 pm

I think having a single site championship is a fantastic idea!

FREDFLINTSTONE · Post by **FREDFLINTSTONE** » Thu May 01, 2008 3:22 pm

CBOO,

Simple question.

Have you ever been to a Peewee or Bantam State tournament?

punchinbag · Post by **punchinbag** » Thu May 01, 2008 8:30 pm

CB00 wrote:I think having a single site championship is a fantastic idea!

Very funny Mr. DeMeo

You can't fool us! We know that you and 16 other co-conspirators got together over a couple of bottles of Boones Farm (paid for by Metro Hockey) and decided to do what you think is best. However, as history has shown, you do not know your head from a tennis ball. Countless times you have come under the gun with silly decisions made by your Gold Region hosts and always have come up miserably short in you "executive decisions".

All that you and the Coookie Monster (the Green one) have accomplished is to divide 5% of the State from the other 95% in your silly little scheme. Why don't we have a Metro Champion and an outstate Champion? Play the rubber game alternately in the metro and an outstate site. That too, is a stupid idea and I thought longer about it than you guys did.

I guess I am simple minded and thought this was about kids and not "marketing opportunities". I read your propaganda on the web site and all that was listed were the "pros" and your backpeddling lies. It was a sorry excuse for an explanation. It was a RED ICULOUS to the max. Thank you for finally defining that word for the rest of us.

True volunteers that are committed to the kids would have listed the "cons" on this issue. Were there any? I assume there were because 33% of the voters voted against it. What we they? I think if you read this forum (or if someone reads it to you), you will see some of the cons.

No Mr. DeMeo, you are no George Swentik. He was a coach of mine during youth hockey and he would never have agreed to this.

h20 · Post by **h20** » Thu May 01, 2008 9:03 pm

keep the heat going , has Mn Hockey ever posted something like this before on their web, No , they are feeling the heat , but we need more to write,fill up their emails

wannagototherink · Post by **wannagototherink** » Fri May 02, 2008 9:12 am

h20 wrote:keep the heat going , has Mn Hockey ever posted something like this before on their web, No , they are feeling the heat , but we need more to write,fill up their emails

Did you see on the MH website explaination that the kids asked about the chance to play at the Excel Energy Center thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread...

Maybe they will be happy to know that there are 4 kids from our program that are forgoing their last year of bantams to go play high school hockey, and one of the reasons was because of this decision. They have all played games in the X and said it was fun to play there, but it wasn't anything special...If Minnesota hockey wanted to run a "pilot program" maybe they should have run a mid season tournament there first to see what the venue would be like with 200 hundred people in there.

Seriously, what do they think is going to happen...They continue to compare the MSHSL tournament to this, but the reality is, the A tournament can't even fill up the lower bowl? I know they said they are willing to scrape it after one year, so I sure hope they are prepared for that.

disappointing

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Fri May 02, 2008 12:17 pm

I have been toying with the idea of calling the president of USA Hockey.

No to help with one site A level tourneys, but of something of a greater magnitude, something I have suggested and brought up to MH board (and briefly to the President of USA Hockey).

This 'something' is a revamp of how the MN H board is elected.
I believe each assn should be allowed to vote for the President and whatever other VP's and elceted officials are necessary. Make them directly accountable to the local associations.

In addition those board members that have no direct contact with youth hockey should be restricted as to what matters they vote on. As an example, the adult mens director votes all matters before the board. Teh DD and all other board members get no input what so ever in establishing their rules. They should have restricted voting rights.

Any thoughts on this?

whockeyguy · Post by **whockeyguy** » Fri May 02, 2008 5:09 pm

absolutly,, Mn Hockey biggest weakness is that they give to much power to people with nonsense tiltes, why a maroon and gold Vp to ever see the DDs, are not these DDs capable of running the district,. Why does the Referee-in-cheif have a vote [ they are independent contractors},and the Coach-in-chief does not, seems ass backwards to me,why do the High school directors have a vote both girls and boys when Mn Hockey continues to say they are not affliated with the schools,,director for Juniors and Adult have voting power on YOUTH hockey???? Then we got the famous V.P. titles, to many to even put on here, should be one V.P. that has voting rights No More.... OOppps forgot about the controller , isnt he the one to eversee the spending of the organization , seems like that title might be the fox gaurding the chicken coup if that positon has a voting power, also doubles up on the treasure duties....

Simple way here is what MN Hockey should have for voting power:
President--- Non voting unless to break ties
1 VP
sec.
treasurer.
the DD all twelve of them
Thas it the rest can have all their titles and glory but NO voting rights,
That would then Make Mn Hockey accountable to how they serve

council member retired · Sat May 03, 2008 1:02 am

this guy has his stuff in order.. GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLL

really? · Post by **really?** » Sat May 03, 2008 11:41 pm

I sent my e-mail to all the MN board members... (addresses offered in another thread)

I got one response from Tim Timm who agreed that it's a poor move.

My sense is that MN Hockey is a lot like our local association in that the "communication system" ain't that good... and, often, the group "in power" has no interest in improving it - Funny how it all works - huh?

My kids have been "lucky" enough to play in front of "nobody" on four separate occasions at the X. I admit, it sounded "cool" the first time - after the first five minutes, it's been a yawn ever since, (for me and my kids). An empty Marriucci ain't much better - but it IS definitely better...

Association hockey is about associations and communities and sharing the fun. Name the lousiest, coldest, least parking, furthest away, rink you can think of... I'd rather have the tourney there than the X...

Anything that can be done to fix this should be done.

greybeard58 · Post by **greybeard58** » Mon May 05, 2008 10:20 am

Anyone else receive a response?

gus004 · Post by **gus004** » Mon May 05, 2008 12:23 pm

I have received four responses to the email I sent. 2 from Mr. DeMeo, one each from DD from D10 and D6. Mr DeMeo's were almost duplicates referencing the FAQ that they posted up. I replied back with additional questions, mainly wondering if they were going to inform the general community of this change and have not received any additional response.

Media · Post by **Media** » Mon May 05, 2008 5:01 pm

I am apalled by this act, it is pompos and arrogant without regard to tradition. It is slap in the face and at the very least disapointing to see this organization at this level. Ted Brill would indeed have something to say about this if he were still here with us, Bill McDonald would equally tell you how wrong you are in this decision. I truly feel for all of you because this is simply embarrassing and if you have any sense at all you will reverse this decision or suffer the consequences for years to come,as will the kids. But then again its not about them anymore is it.

pucks are funny · Post by **pucks are funny** » Mon May 05, 2008 8:10 pm

Media please contact MH and let them know how you feel. Ask your district director if he is in favor of it.

h20 · Post by **h20** » Mon May 05, 2008 9:23 pm

we got to get more people involved in this LET THEM KNOW what is going on and who to contact

Media · Post by **Media** » Mon May 05, 2008 9:26 pm

I have written my opinion to Barry Ford a man I consider a friend and great advocate for hockey .I dont know where he stands on this but I do know he is a straight shooter.

whockeyguy · Post by **whockeyguy** » Mon May 05, 2008 9:31 pm

do we know were the DDs stand on this, any help Elliot,
I know form this site that thes are against
D-10
D-16
D-5
what about the others, any help here , lets focus on the DDs that voted for this as well as the ancient VPs that are out of touch

pucks are funny · Post by **pucks are funny** » Mon May 05, 2008 9:40 pm

District 6 director Brad Hewitt is against

So against

District 6 metro - south/ west
District 16 northcentral / northwest
District 5
District 10 central / and north suburbs

that leaves us ???

district 4 - south
district 8 - metro
district 1 - metro
district 3 - metro
district 12 - north east ?

i know i am missing some, which one is White Bear Lake in ? That guy I assume is for it.... his boys skated at the X in a practice, and thus became the "research" for DeMeo

whockeyguy · Post by **whockeyguy** » Mon May 05, 2008 9:51 pm

ya Hewiit may be against but heard D-6 rep voted for it, Hewitt was not there, lets hold all of these that voted for it accountable

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