Div 1 2009-10 recruits

keepitreal · Post by **keepitreal** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:44 pm

Good luck to the class of 2009 athletes awaiting phone calls today.

chickendance · Post by **chickendance** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:25 pm

Aren't the only ones that are D1 recruits in Lake Placid still? They probably have their cell phones though.

keepitreal · Post by **keepitreal** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:22 pm

chickendance wrote:Aren't the only ones that are D1 recruits in Lake Placid still? They probably have their cell phones though.

Not necessarily, but safe bets there-- vast majority of the Minnesota team made the U17 "All Star" teams. Several players on coaches speed dial to be sure

34 Minnesota players from the class of 08 have made D1 commitments for the upcoming season.

The list of 09-10 D1 commitments starts with one which has been well-known for a while: Becky Kortum, Hopkins HS F to Minnesota.

Rumors of a few others.

quickfeet · Post by **quickfeet** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:43 pm

chickendance wrote:Aren't the only ones that are D1 recruits in Lake Placid still? They probably have their cell phones though.

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Each class has two birth years in it.

Class of 09

1990/1991

Class of 10

1991/1992

Class of 11

1992/1993

Because USA hockey no longer has the two birth years together it makes it difficult to judge the class as a whole. I'm sure there were a lot of calls going out to the 1990's in the class of 09.

chickendance · Post by **chickendance** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:15 pm

Guy's I wasn't serious.

zamboni99 · Post by **zamboni99** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:26 am

Any word on any girls committing to schools yet? Not real familiar to the NCAA rules, can schools start offering money yet, or is there a date they have to wait for?

allhoc11 · Post by **allhoc11** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:42 pm

keepitreal wrote: 34 Minnesota players from the class of 08 have made D1 commitments for the upcoming season.

I would imagine this years list will be considerably lower. The 08 class was the deepest in MN history. On an average year we get in the low 20's to commit to D1. I would imagine we get back in that range, maybe a bit lower this year.

finance_gal · Post by **finance_gal** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:19 am

The group coming out in 2010 could be the deepest group ever, I've spoken with a coach who says that this is the group to watch. he also said the top players in the 2009's look good but not near as deep.

BCGHockey · Post by **BCGHockey** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:05 pm

finance_gal, only time will tell regarding the depth of 2010. It will tough to bet the depth of the class that is leaving for their freshman year this school year. If my info. is correct I believe it is 31 or 34 girls from the grad class 2008 will be playing D1 hockey. Those are some lofty numbers for the 2010 class to beat.

finance_gal · Post by **finance_gal** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:21 pm

BCGHockey wrote:finance_gal, only time will tell regarding the depth of 2010. It will tough to bet the depth of the class that is leaving for their freshman year this school year. If my info. is correct I believe it is 31 or 34 girls from the grad class 2008 will be playing D1 hockey. Those are some lofty numbers for the 2010 class to beat.

I'm just repeating what I heard at a hockey showcase...this is the group that will be juniors this year and 31 players going D1 will be tough to beat

joehockey · Post by **joehockey** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:52 pm

On the College Forum Hux tracks recruiting in '08 MN had 34 players signed to D1 vs 25 in '07 so great '08 class. The '09 and '10 class have big skates to fill!

The '10 class by graduation will be the most trained and invested in MN class in terms of hours and dollars....CODP, OS, AAA, Upper Midwest Elite HS League, Two Nations, single birth year NDP........and the Thoroughbreds will have some very good '10 players......will top year round hockey develop more D1 players in '10....time will tell?

Outside of Minnesota there is a lot of action on AAA hockey and Hockey Academy type schools "development, competition and academics (perhaps)" like this effort the Junior Womens Hockey League: Boston Shamrocks, National Sports Academy, North American Hockey Academy, Washington Pride, Balmoral Hall, Edge School, Pacific Steelers, Warner Hockey School - will efforts like these shrink the share of D1 slots Minnesota players will capture?

brookyone · Post by **brookyone** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:50 pm

I think the 2010 class will rival the 2008 class, outstanding as that 2008 class was...we'll see...but I think you'll see comparable numbers (at least) moving on to division I rosters. Competition for D-I roster spots is sure to intensify IMO. I believe the Minnesota player will continue to be well represented in women's division I hockey. It's definitely plausible Minnesota players could give some ground per roster spots given the increased and more focused participation in other regions. I definitely believe Minnesota will continue to produce talent that all division I programs seek out.

What is really needed sometime in the not too distant future is a handful additional teams. We've got Syracuse jumping in currently. Some of those CCHA institutions need to get on it...IMO. Unfortunately, that's not likely anytime soon.

itsjustasport · Post by **itsjustasport** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:13 pm

Seems like there should be a '10-'11 topic instead of posting all of these comments here.

Bensonmum · Post by **Bensonmum** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:43 pm

OK, for the sake of argument I'll by into the theory that the class of '08 is a super class and maybe there won't be as many DI recruits from Minnesota next year. But my prediction for the big picture is that the state will steadily produce more and more DI players.
Numbers in the U8, U10 and U12 are larger than ever and still growing, while other hot spots have levelled off. Minnesota has about twice as many players U12 and younger than Mass. and 4-5 times as many as Mich. Both those states numbers have peaked and are even dropping slightly over the last 3-4 years.
It's getting commonplace now for girls U10 and above to play year-round in the Twin Cities. There are Spring/Fall AAA teams and STPs available within 5 miles of any kid and they're heavily populated. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't see that happening in 'other regions'. It's common for kids in Michigan to have to be driven over an hour one-way to practice for their winter teams--imagine what they would have to do in the summer. Illinois produced 7 DI players this year--4 came from one team (Chi. Mission) and 2 played at the same out-of-state academy with tuition of $25K. Minnesota's recruits came from dozens of different HS teams, public and private.
Nowhere is hockey cheaper and more convenient and drives shorter than in Minnesota, and the numbers back that up. IMO, numbers are the story. And the boom in Minnesota started around 2000-01 with the first U8 teams--U12 and U14 teams today are full of girls who have been playing since they were 5 and 6 years old. The majority of the kids in the class of '08 jumped in at U10 or even U12. Wait'll you get a load of the classes of '12, '13 and '14.

itsjustasport · Post by **itsjustasport** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:32 am

Maybe there should be a 2012-2013 topic--some of us check this thread because we are really interested in the 2008-2009 class!

Bensonmum · Post by **Bensonmum** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:50 am

Sorry about the tangent/rant, it just looked like the discussion headed that direction of its own volition.

jumpstart · Post by **jumpstart** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:47 am

[quote="quickfeet: Because USA hockey no longer has the two birth years together it makes it difficult to judge the class as a whole. I'm sure there were a lot of calls going out to the 1990's in the class of 09.[/quote]

Wouldn't the simplest and fairest solution be for USA Hockey to go to a September 1 cutoff to coincide with a school year? That way all of the skaters in a specific graduation class would be judged together. It might "even the playing field" a bit for those skaters who have late-year birthdays.

Maybe I don't know enough about the workings of USA Hockey, but I have never understood using a Jan. 1 cutoff date. A few years back, I was a youth hockey registrar, and at that time Minnesota was the only state to use a July 1 cutoff. I thought that at least made more sense than a Jan. 1 cutoff. Maybe someone "in the know" can explain the "pros" of the Jan. 1 cutoff to me.

hockeya1a · Post by **hockeya1a** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:10 am

jumpstart wrote:[quote="quickfeet: Because USA hockey no longer has the two birth years together it makes it difficult to judge the class as a whole. I'm sure there were a lot of calls going out to the 1990's in the class of 09.

Wouldn't the simplest and fairest solution be for USA Hockey to go to a September 1 cutoff to coincide with a school year? That way all of the skaters in a specific graduation class would be judged together. It might "even the playing field" a bit for those skaters who have late-year birthdays.

Maybe I don't know enough about the workings of USA Hockey, but I have never understood using a Jan. 1 cutoff date. A few years back, I was a youth hockey registrar, and at that time Minnesota was the only state to use a July 1 cutoff. I thought that at least made more sense than a Jan. 1 cutoff. Maybe someone "in the know" can explain the "pros" of the Jan. 1 cutoff to me.[/quote]

I agree completely!

hockeyrube7 · Post by **hockeyrube7** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:11 am

I believe the rest of the country uses Jan 1 as the cut off? Could be wrong tho.

hockeyheaven · Post by **hockeyheaven** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:24 pm

When comparing and contrasting the number of D1 placements from year to year and then trying to place some type of significant to it don’t you also have to factor in graduation and attrition numbers? Especially when you’re trying to assert the suggestion of …supremacy… or something close to that….

Just a though

OntheEdge · Post by **OntheEdge** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:42 pm

hockeya1a wrote:
jumpstart wrote:[quote="quickfeet: Because USA hockey no longer has the two birth years together it makes it difficult to judge the class as a whole. I'm sure there were a lot of calls going out to the 1990's in the class of 09.
Wouldn't the simplest and fairest solution be for USA Hockey to go to a September 1 cutoff to coincide with a school year? That way all of the skaters in a specific graduation class would be judged together. It might "even the playing field" a bit for those skaters who have late-year birthdays.

Maybe I don't know enough about the workings of USA Hockey, but I have never understood using a Jan. 1 cutoff date. A few years back, I was a youth hockey registrar, and at that time Minnesota was the only state to use a July 1 cutoff. I thought that at least made more sense than a Jan. 1 cutoff. Maybe someone "in the know" can explain the "pros" of the Jan. 1 cutoff to me.

I agree completely![/quote]

It would be interesting if the change were made. There might be different girls heading to NY if the tryouts were based on Sept 1. From what I saw at the Advanced programs (at least at the 16 and 17 level) there were some younger girls that made it to Phase 4 but I think that the great majority at Phase 3 and Phase 4 were the older girls (i.e 2010 grads at Adv 16 and 2009 grads at Adv 17).

Bensonmum · Post by **Bensonmum** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:27 pm

hockeyheaven wrote:When comparing and contrasting the number of D1 placements from year to year and then trying to place some type of significant to it don’t you also have to factor in graduation and attrition numbers? Especially when you’re trying to assert the suggestion of …supremacy… or something close to that….

Just a though

Agreed. It seems like knowledgable folks use the DI recruit criteria when judging a particular graduation class vs. another class and vs. the rest of the girls' hockey world. My observation would be that girls' hockey in Minnesota is healthy and still improving.

joehockey · Post by **joehockey** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:32 pm

OntheEdge wrote:
hockeya1a wrote:
jumpstart wrote:[quote="quickfeet: Because USA hockey no longer has the two birth years together it makes it difficult to judge the class as a whole. I'm sure there were a lot of calls going out to the 1990's in the class of 09.
Wouldn't the simplest and fairest solution be for USA Hockey to go to a September 1 cutoff to coincide with a school year? That way all of the skaters in a specific graduation class would be judged together. It might "even the playing field" a bit for those skaters who have late-year birthdays.

Maybe I don't know enough about the workings of USA Hockey, but I have never understood using a Jan. 1 cutoff date. A few years back, I was a youth hockey registrar, and at that time Minnesota was the only state to use a July 1 cutoff. I thought that at least made more sense than a Jan. 1 cutoff. Maybe someone "in the know" can explain the "pros" of the Jan. 1 cutoff to me.

I agree completely!

It would be interesting if the change were made. There might be different girls heading to NY if the tryouts were based on Sept 1. From what I saw at the Advanced programs (at least at the 16 and 17 level) there were some younger girls that made it to Phase 4 but I think that the great majority at Phase 3 and Phase 4 were the older girls (i.e 2010 grads at Adv 16 and 2009 grads at Adv 17).[/quote]

Yes it would change - here was the U16 Break Out 2010 (twelve) vs 2011 (eight) - this includes At Large that have been posted.

On the U17 I think only Gina McDonald made it from Minnesota as a class of 2010?

There must be an international tie to the Jan 1 for U18, U22 teams so it utimately ties back to birthdate for hockey groups and class year for schools.

Player School Position Class
Alleva Rose Red Wing D 2010
Buie Corinne Edina F 2010
Colin Amanda Burnsville F 2010
Gallop Dana Grand Rapids/Greenway F 2010
Henning Corinne Culver Academy F 2010
King Kristi Stillwater F 2010
Ladner Catie Chaska D 2010
Marzario Madison Shattuck-St. Mary's D 2010
Mason Kaitlin Eagan F 2010
Pendleton Maggie Hill Murray D 2010
Piche' Francie East Grand Forks D 2010
Williams Danielle Chaska F 2010
Bona Rachael Coon Rapids F 2011
Burns Jordyn Benilde-St. Margaret's F 2011
Hanmer Audrey Forest Lake D 2011
Illikainen Morgan Grand Rapids/Greenway D 2011
Kelly Rachael Rosemount F 2011
Laden Chelsea Lakeville South G 2011
Lorence Meghan Irondale F 2011
Ramsey Rachel Minnetonka F 2011

brookyone · Post by **brookyone** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:36 pm

Read a post in the USCHO forum commitment thread that it's the WCHA SCSU Huskies for Alex Nelson of Andover. Great catch for the Huskies.

iceit · Post by **iceit** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:20 pm

July 1st came and went... not alot of noise on the commitment page for MN girls... or really anyone? last year at this time commitments were being announced hot and heavy. Are kids taking more time in their desisions? going on all of their officials? ANy news? whats up? Lots of good players excited to hear news.