I have been watching hockey a long time ( I don't like Russo and anything he and he entourage stand for) and that team would have a great chance of winning the league.nipe87 wrote:Well like others on here have stated, there are many great hockey players on these final rosters. On the other hand, there are many unproven (The word I would use) players that many people can agree on shouldn't be playing in the elite league (Yet anyways). With that being, I have taken a few minutes to think of a fairly large list of proven varsity hockey players that would build a great "Extra Team" in the league (These are just some of the players that came to my mind and I am sure there are many more so feel free to add your opinion).
GOALIE 1
GOALIE 2
D Tai Larson - Warroad
D Derek Stauber - Duluth Marshal
D Al McLean - Duluth East
D Blake Hansen - St. Cloud Tech
D Mark DeLude - Academy Holy Angels
D Gus Miller - St. Cloud Tech
D Blake Doerring - Blake School
D Matthew Youso - International Falls
F John Skrbec - Grand Rapids
F Brett Hebel - Warroad
F Adam Krause - Hermantown
F Dave Shaugabay - Warroad
F Ryan Wolter - White Bear Lake
F Ryan Weston - Roseau
F Julius Tamasy - Brainerd
F Ben Nelson - Little Falls
F Joshua Gaughan - Buffalo
F Tyson Fulton - Breck
F Travis Boyd - Hopkins/Benilde
F Oscar Carlsson - Cloquet
F Paul Prescott - Hill Murray
F Jordan Palusky - St. Cloud Cathedral
F Chad Lowell - White Bear Lake
F Sam Swanson - White Bear Lake
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I think you could put together a couple more pretty good teams, i know there's a few more kids that could be added. maybe those great hockey brains will look at it, and give a few more kids a chance.flatontheice wrote:I have been watching hockey a long time ( I don't like Russo and anything he and he entourage stand for) and that team would have a great chance of winning the league.nipe87 wrote:Well like others on here have stated, there are many great hockey players on these final rosters. On the other hand, there are many unproven (The word I would use) players that many people can agree on shouldn't be playing in the elite league (Yet anyways). With that being, I have taken a few minutes to think of a fairly large list of proven varsity hockey players that would build a great "Extra Team" in the league (These are just some of the players that came to my mind and I am sure there are many more so feel free to add your opinion).
GOALIE 1
GOALIE 2
D Tai Larson - Warroad
D Derek Stauber - Duluth Marshal
D Al McLean - Duluth East
D Blake Hansen - St. Cloud Tech
D Mark DeLude - Academy Holy Angels
D Gus Miller - St. Cloud Tech
D Blake Doerring - Blake School
D Matthew Youso - International Falls
F John Skrbec - Grand Rapids
F Brett Hebel - Warroad
F Adam Krause - Hermantown
F Dave Shaugabay - Warroad
F Ryan Wolter - White Bear Lake
F Ryan Weston - Roseau
F Julius Tamasy - Brainerd
F Ben Nelson - Little Falls
F Joshua Gaughan - Buffalo
F Tyson Fulton - Breck
F Travis Boyd - Hopkins/Benilde
F Oscar Carlsson - Cloquet
F Paul Prescott - Hill Murray
F Jordan Palusky - St. Cloud Cathedral
F Chad Lowell - White Bear Lake
F Sam Swanson - White Bear Lake
Appears most of your list didn't attend or receive tryout invites.eastranger19 wrote:Congrats to the 5 east kids, all good players. I agree with the skrbec kid, very nice player. Also heard hendrickson, weston, ohrn, baldwin were automatically on, same reason as selects? then if true, this league won't last. good players, but not automatics!! I would guess there was only a couple openings not already pre- filled. some surprising names missing that were not even on the lists or alternates list unless i missed them. lutzka east, youso & lenium falls, skrbec & kleinendort & underwood G.R., hanegmon Hibbing, krause & bannor h-town, mahoney & messina marshall. also did'nt see shaugabee & larson warroad, weston roseau, moberg f-lake, maybe they just did'nt have a good tryout, but i heard it was packed on the ice. good luck to all that deservingly made it.GR3343 wrote:This kid over Skrbec from GR means someone wasn't watching very close.shooter57 wrote:who is F 10 Garrett Hendrickson Virginia ?
let me guess - COACHES KID
whats that smell? this stuff is getting OUT OF HAND...........
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If you people from rapids listen close you might hear the whispers from over this way of who had already made it, and who was going to make this team, and the people in hibbing they know, not that big of a secret, our ex coach who was tired of coaching and quit, but who still coaches all fall
, and who could sell ice to the eskimos with a gum chewing smile and arm around them, and still can blame and get rid of coaches here, I mean the board got rid of him
because the program has fallen so low because the players are not there, because the program was ignored for so long, should have spent more time in working on trying to keep our program going at the younger levels, instead of the fall program, and the 1, and last year 2 ELITE players catered to, or maybe he has other plans he's hoping for? You've heard lucia does'nt know how to coach, have'nt you
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Did'nt no that, just a few of the names Iam familiar with, sure there's more, maybe they play football or fall sports or just workout, that's just as good, as it can probably be a long season with the regular season right after.GR3343 wrote:Appears most of your list didn't attend or receive tryout invites.eastranger19 wrote:Congrats to the 5 east kids, all good players. I agree with the skrbec kid, very nice player. Also heard hendrickson, weston, ohrn, baldwin were automatically on, same reason as selects? then if true, this league won't last. good players, but not automatics!! I would guess there was only a couple openings not already pre- filled. some surprising names missing that were not even on the lists or alternates list unless i missed them. lutzka east, youso & lenium falls, skrbec & kleinendort & underwood G.R., hanegmon Hibbing, krause & bannor h-town, mahoney & messina marshall. also did'nt see shaugabee & larson warroad, weston roseau, moberg f-lake, maybe they just did'nt have a good tryout, but i heard it was packed on the ice. good luck to all that deservingly made it.GR3343 wrote: This kid over Skrbec from GR means someone wasn't watching very close.
Agreed on that. Would have been nice for this whole operation to be based on a tryout basis. I would like to see it go back to the days of the elite seniors and the very few elite juniors in our state rather than sophs being placed directly on teams, and seemingly having juniors outnumber seniors. The league is and will continue to be very good and as someone else said, will always get about 80% of the "right" players. It's finding and filling in that 20% that has people shaking their heads.eastranger19 wrote:Did'nt no that, just a few of the names Iam familiar with, sure there's more, maybe they play football or fall sports or just workout, that's just as good, as it can probably be a long season with the regular season right after.GR3343 wrote:Appears most of your list didn't attend or receive tryout invites.eastranger19 wrote: Congrats to the 5 east kids, all good players. I agree with the skrbec kid, very nice player. Also heard hendrickson, weston, ohrn, baldwin were automatically on, same reason as selects? then if true, this league won't last. good players, but not automatics!! I would guess there was only a couple openings not already pre- filled. some surprising names missing that were not even on the lists or alternates list unless i missed them. lutzka east, youso & lenium falls, skrbec & kleinendort & underwood G.R., hanegmon Hibbing, krause & bannor h-town, mahoney & messina marshall. also did'nt see shaugabee & larson warroad, weston roseau, moberg f-lake, maybe they just did'nt have a good tryout, but i heard it was packed on the ice. good luck to all that deservingly made it.
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Explain please. Maybe it's just me, but your post seems like it's bitter yet trying to be informative. Could you clarify some of your statements? What whispers?greenraidway01 wrote:If you people from rapids listen close you might hear the whispers from over this way of who had already made it, and who was going to make this team, and the people in hibbing they know, not that big of a secret, our ex coach who was tired of coaching and quit, but who still coaches all fall, and who could sell ice to the eskimos with a gum chewing smile and arm around them, and still can blame and get rid of coaches here, I mean the board got rid of him
because the program has fallen so low because the players are not there, because the program was ignored for so long, should have spent more time in working on trying to keep our program going at the younger levels, instead of the fall program, and the 1, and last year 2 ELITE players catered to, or maybe he has other plans he's hoping for? You've heard lucia does'nt know how to coach, have'nt you
if not listen to the whispers!!
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Who are the biggest surprises that made it?Tony Soprano wrote:Some whispers I have heard are how can a player that was not in this league last year, and was not even in the Elite II league last Fall, make it now? Granted maybe a lot of work was put in between now and then, but it seems a little strange.
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when you have to go to a rapids tourny and use rapids players, young players who are better than what we can field, and they have a 1/2 dozen or so of there better players gone for b-ball that's embarrasing, ya we also were missing a couple, but not compared to yours, makes it kind of bitter, whispers are the little click groups that let things slip out, maybe alcohol related, or not, of who will and will not be playing on certain teams. or worrying more about the selects or elites than our program, from whispers i thought i heard, i would have bet rendle was making it from rapids and that was it! and he should have made it last year also. hibbing, jamnick a can't lose bet, should have been there last year, but then who would'nt have made itGR3343 wrote:greenraidway01 wrote:If you people from rapids listen close you might hear the whispers from over this way of who had already made it, and who was going to make this team, and the people in hibbing they know, not that big of a secret, our ex coach who was tired of coaching and quit, but who still coaches all fall, and who could sell ice to the eskimos with a gum chewing smile and arm around them, and still can blame and get rid of coaches here, I mean the board got rid of him
because the program has fallen so low because the players are not there, because the program was ignored for so long, should have spent more time in working on trying to keep our program going at the younger levels, instead of the fall program, and the 1, and last year 2 ELITE players catered to, or maybe he has other plans he's hoping for? You've heard lucia does'nt know how to coach, have'nt you
if not listen to the whispers!!
Explain please. Maybe it's just me, but your post seems like it's bitter yet trying to be informative. Could you clarify some of your statements? What whispers?

I think it would be very interesting if that team (maybe with a few changes here or there) was added to the league. I think the people who see no politics involved would be utterly surprised by the results that would come of it.flatontheice wrote:I have been watching hockey a long time ( I don't like Russo and anything he and he entourage stand for) and that team would have a great chance of winning the league.nipe87 wrote:Well like others on here have stated, there are many great hockey players on these final rosters. On the other hand, there are many unproven (The word I would use) players that many people can agree on shouldn't be playing in the elite league (Yet anyways). With that being, I have taken a few minutes to think of a fairly large list of proven varsity hockey players that would build a great "Extra Team" in the league (These are just some of the players that came to my mind and I am sure there are many more so feel free to add your opinion).
GOALIE 1
GOALIE 2
D Tai Larson - Warroad
D Derek Stauber - Duluth Marshal
D Al McLean - Duluth East
D Blake Hansen - St. Cloud Tech
D Mark DeLude - Academy Holy Angels
D Gus Miller - St. Cloud Tech
D Blake Doerring - Blake School
D Matthew Youso - International Falls
F John Skrbec - Grand Rapids
F Brett Hebel - Warroad
F Adam Krause - Hermantown
F Dave Shaugabay - Warroad
F Ryan Wolter - White Bear Lake
F Ryan Weston - Roseau
F Julius Tamasy - Brainerd
F Ben Nelson - Little Falls
F Joshua Gaughan - Buffalo
F Tyson Fulton - Breck
F Travis Boyd - Hopkins/Benilde
F Oscar Carlsson - Cloquet
F Paul Prescott - Hill Murray
F Jordan Palusky - St. Cloud Cathedral
F Chad Lowell - White Bear Lake
F Sam Swanson - White Bear Lake
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Wow, lots of complaining. No matter who was selected you'd get the same chatter.
For those who weren't picked, play well and prove you should have been on one of the teams. Anyone that doesn't make the NCAA better at least win a few games in the NIT.
For those who weren't picked, play well and prove you should have been on one of the teams. Anyone that doesn't make the NCAA better at least win a few games in the NIT.
Be kind. Rewind.
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Agreed.....It ain't always fair.O-townClown wrote:Wow, lots of complaining. No matter who was selected you'd get the same chatter.
For those who weren't picked, play well and prove you should have been on one of the teams. Anyone that doesn't make the NCAA better at least win a few games in the NIT.
This is where you pick your head up and work even harder.
The cream will rise to the top it's just a matter of time and effort.
Don't let it spoil your dream, if you wern't selected keep working, because time and again we hear about these players that make it to the top but it's because of hard work and determination, not who you know, or what your name is.

There's always many locks on the Elite teams. That's just the way their system seems to be set up. I agree last year that Jamnick warranted a place on the team, and Rendle as well. At the very least a tryout. I don't think Rendle had a guarantee this year, but made the most of his tryout. There seems to be too many "locks" and too few spots for them to have this huge open tryout of 100 or so kids. That's where the head shaking comes in. This gives the appearance of bilking people for more money.greenraidway01 wrote:when you have to go to a rapids tourny and use rapids players, young players who are better than what we can field, and they have a 1/2 dozen or so of there better players gone for b-ball that's embarrasing, ya we also were missing a couple, but not compared to yours, makes it kind of bitter, whispers are the little click groups that let things slip out, maybe alcohol related, or not, of who will and will not be playing on certain teams. or worrying more about the selects or elites than our program, from whispers i thought i heard, i would have bet rendle was making it from rapids and that was it! and he should have made it last year also. hibbing, jamnick a can't lose bet, should have been there last year, but then who would'nt have made itGR3343 wrote:greenraidway01 wrote:If you people from rapids listen close you might hear the whispers from over this way of who had already made it, and who was going to make this team, and the people in hibbing they know, not that big of a secret, our ex coach who was tired of coaching and quit, but who still coaches all fall, and who could sell ice to the eskimos with a gum chewing smile and arm around them, and still can blame and get rid of coaches here, I mean the board got rid of him
because the program has fallen so low because the players are not there, because the program was ignored for so long, should have spent more time in working on trying to keep our program going at the younger levels, instead of the fall program, and the 1, and last year 2 ELITE players catered to, or maybe he has other plans he's hoping for? You've heard lucia does'nt know how to coach, have'nt you
if not listen to the whispers!!
Explain please. Maybe it's just me, but your post seems like it's bitter yet trying to be informative. Could you clarify some of your statements? What whispers?and veschell a sure bet to get on some team this year! those are the whispers people can hear. if your from rapids and had a kid there the whispers could have saved you bling bling!!! hibbing kids knew there chances, were'nt invited, or did'nt go would be my guess. but i could be totally wrong, i don't hear very well!!
As for the GW program, yes, they are in jeopardy. From the few people I've talked with over there, it seems they held the former coach responsible for the current state of the program. When in reality, that coach did as much with nothing than anyone I've seen. It's time that the parents and players over there start bearing some of the brunt. Discipline is a major factor in what appears to be wrong over there. The problem athletes appear to believe there's no reprocussions for their actions because there's no one to take their place. They skip practices, show up late, let their school work suffer, and generally are disrespectful kids. Definitely not all of them, but definitely more than one. Parenting comes into play there and respect for authority and most of all, respect for the game they play. I do think the GW program, under the right guidance, and based on some of the younger players I've seen lately, will be back on track, and will be competitive again. It will take some time, perhaps several years, but it can be done. No one should blame the former coach. He may not have been perfect, but he certainly did the best he could with what he had.
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I heard that Jace Baldwin,Garett Hendrickson,Aaron Jamnick all had automatics before the tryout.....based on what? Jamnick has earned that and Baldwin and Hendrickson have point totals but why should guys like Skrbec, Westin, Rendle have to tryout? Rendle should have been a lock..... Skrbec has been a tremendous player all the way through and doesnt even make this team? how ridiuclous......Westin couldn't have been happy knowing Hendrickson was on the team and he had to tryout because i bet if you asked anyone that plays for Virginia who they'd rather have on the ice it'd be Westin.....
I understand the questions about players like Skrbec and Kleinendorst not being selected for elite league but did they even try out? Don't think either played in their own Summer tourney last weekend and not sure they're in Duluth this weekend, either. Skrbec is very serious about baseball (not sure about Kleinendorst) so I'm wondering if either of them even tried out? Skrbec passed on he Advance 15 final team selection last year (baseball again). Do you suppose it's possible that these kids and some of the others mentioned have better things to do in the Fall than play hockey every weekend?
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Saw the Nagel kid at the Waterloo tryouts, big, physical could carry the puck and shed off defensemen I don't think this was a stretch. Agree with the others comment about the shortage of WBL players? Where's Collette?rbk2090 wrote:I agree. Let me guess. Team Southwest, the two best goalies. Some kid from Totino Grace last name Nagelshooter57 wrote:who is F 10 Garrett Hendrickson Virginia ?
let me guess - COACHES KID
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6 - holy angels
6 - Centennial
5 - Minnetonka
7 - Edina
7 - Hill
Isn't it the sum of all the parts that makes teams great? I can't believe that #7 at Hill or Edina is better then a 1 or 2 at another school.
Put that Forest Lake goalie in on that missed out team. Also I feel for the SE team, one goalie from Mankato and the other from Duluth, where are practices at TRF?
I thought Lee, Buddish and ALt were big football players? Looks like a full plate for those guys.
Looks like it will be fun to watch.
Skrbec deserved a better fate especially in a tryout situation. Kleinendorst shouldn't have gotten a selection, 4 pts in a full season at the varsity level doesn't warrant that. The whole thing is flawed. Nominations should come from wherever they come from, then have the players come in for a real tryout and select the best guys. Select the guys that perform under the pressure of that situation. Pre selections will always lead to questions from everyone as to why. While some will be deserving, others won't be. That's why it always comes to the political questions.gottago wrote:I understand the questions about players like Skrbec and Kleinendorst not being selected for elite league but did they even try out? Don't think either played in their own Summer tourney last weekend and not sure they're in Duluth this weekend, either. Skrbec is very serious about baseball (not sure about Kleinendorst) so I'm wondering if either of them even tried out? Skrbec passed on he Advance 15 final team selection last year (baseball again). Do you suppose it's possible that these kids and some of the others mentioned have better things to do in the Fall than play hockey every weekend?
FYI - Skrbec was offered a tryout, went, and didn't make it. Yes, he is serious about his baseball. Both he and Kleinendorst are and were big parts of the GR baseball team, both choosing to play their summer sport. Not a thing wrong with that and neither should be punished for that. Also, Skrbec did play fall hockey playing in the Elite II league last year.
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There should be SOME CRITERIA for the players who get in without a tryout. A minimum number of points say for a forward. Nothing to Outrageous, but at least a minimum. There is NO WAY a player should be a lock if they had 5 points or less last season or played JV and others looking from the outside in with 30-40 points. YOU KIDDING ME. That tells you there is to much politics in this. But as always, as people have said, its who ya know, what your brother has does in the past or know that right coaches or personnel within the league.RushnCircles wrote:If you went back to the days of "the elite seniors and the very few elite juniors" participating in the Elite League, you just might have only 3 teams
You could add Trevor George- F and mike koeing-D both from roseau
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D Tai Larson - Warroad
D Derek Stauber - Duluth Marshal
D Al McLean - Duluth East
D Blake Hansen - St. Cloud Tech
D Mark DeLude - Academy Holy Angels
D Gus Miller - St. Cloud Tech
D Blake Doerring - Blake School
D Matthew Youso - International Falls
F John Skrbec - Grand Rapids
F Brett Hebel - Warroad
F Adam Krause - Hermantown
F Dave Shaugabay - Warroad
F Ryan Wolter - White Bear Lake
F Ryan Weston - Roseau
F Julius Tamasy - Brainerd
F Ben Nelson - Little Falls
F Joshua Gaughan - Buffalo
F Tyson Fulton - Breck
F Travis Boyd - Hopkins/Benilde
F Oscar Carlsson - Cloquet
F Paul Prescott - Hill Murray
F Jordan Palusky - St. Cloud Cathedral
F Chad Lowell - White Bear Lake
F Sam Swanson - White Bear Lake[/quote]
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D Tai Larson - Warroad
D Derek Stauber - Duluth Marshal
D Al McLean - Duluth East
D Blake Hansen - St. Cloud Tech
D Mark DeLude - Academy Holy Angels
D Gus Miller - St. Cloud Tech
D Blake Doerring - Blake School
D Matthew Youso - International Falls
F John Skrbec - Grand Rapids
F Brett Hebel - Warroad
F Adam Krause - Hermantown
F Dave Shaugabay - Warroad
F Ryan Wolter - White Bear Lake
F Ryan Weston - Roseau
F Julius Tamasy - Brainerd
F Ben Nelson - Little Falls
F Joshua Gaughan - Buffalo
F Tyson Fulton - Breck
F Travis Boyd - Hopkins/Benilde
F Oscar Carlsson - Cloquet
F Paul Prescott - Hill Murray
F Jordan Palusky - St. Cloud Cathedral
F Chad Lowell - White Bear Lake
F Sam Swanson - White Bear Lake[/quote]
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There are also 2 kids that got automatics at defense that played forward all year.HSHockeyFan08 wrote:Player's playing JV last year gets in the league, and yet players that got All Conference in tough conferences don't get in. Does not make any sense.