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Re: Otown

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jancze5 wrote:O-town... I think you missed my point. I agree with 98% of what you say...it's just the 2% part of downplaying the AAA experience vs the Minnesota Hockey experience. You seem to think that kids who play AAA hockey don't have the same memories of hockey that you had as a kid growing up in Edina and playing in the state tournament and on into college. My side is that they do.
HS sports are different than club. Playing a big rivalry game with kids you've known since Kindergarten against kids you've faced since 4th grade with big stakes is different. When a HS has a reunion every decade the football guys reminisce about football and the basketball guys reminisce about basketball. What do the Little Caesar's players do...call out for Sausage with extra cheese and get on a conference call?

Worth mentioning is that youth hockey experiences are different for everyone and so are those at AAA. Certainly the kids from LA that won the Pee Wee title see things differently than the kids they beat in California and certainly the kid that got cut might have an even different tale to tell. My youth hockey path was mine and someone else may have different memories.

I'm sure lots of kids don't look back at youth or HS hockey with fondness.

My apologies if I've implied I don't think kids do have positive AAA experiences. That certainly isn't the intent. I have offered balance. One reason to offer Tier I in Minnesota is "so kids can go to Nationals". I just want to be sure people know what that means.

When your kid buries the gamewinner in OT to take Woodbury to the HS tournament you'll know that a friend's son that does the same to advance his U18 AAA Midget team to nationals can't possibly relate. Those following hockey around your age group in that town will remember that goal forever.
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The basketball analogies are getting old on a hockey web site…. How can you compare a “sport” that kicks you out of the game after you touching a guy 5 times, or a “sport” that doesn’t allow you to block the ball from going into the goal. How many time outs do they get in a basketball game anyway?
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Re: Otown

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O-townClown wrote:
jancze5 wrote:O-town... I think you missed my point. I agree with 98% of what you say...it's just the 2% part of downplaying the AAA experience vs the Minnesota Hockey experience. You seem to think that kids who play AAA hockey don't have the same memories of hockey that you had as a kid growing up in Edina and playing in the state tournament and on into college. My side is that they do.
HS sports are different than club. Playing a big rivalry game with kids you've known since Kindergarten against kids you've faced since 4th grade with big stakes is different. When a HS has a reunion every decade the football guys reminisce about football and the basketball guys reminisce about basketball. What do the Little Caesar's players do...call out for Sausage with extra cheese and get on a conference call?

Worth mentioning is that youth hockey experiences are different for everyone and so are those at AAA. Certainly the kids from LA that won the Pee Wee title see things differently than the kids they beat in California and certainly the kid that got cut might have an even different tale to tell. My youth hockey path was mine and someone else may have different memories.

I'm sure lots of kids don't look back at youth or HS hockey with fondness.

My apologies if I've implied I don't think kids do have positive AAA experiences. That certainly isn't the intent. I have offered balance. One reason to offer Tier I in Minnesota is "so kids can go to Nationals". I just want to be sure people know what that means.

When your kid buries the gamewinner in OT to take Woodbury to the HS tournament you'll know that a friend's son that does the same to advance his U18 AAA Midget team to nationals can't possibly relate. Those following hockey around your age group in that town will remember that goal forever.
Just like that line..........they could call it the O-town special :lol:
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hiptzech wrote:The basketball analogies are getting old on a hockey web site…. How can you compare a “sport” that kicks you out of the game after you touching a guy 5 times, or a “sport” that doesn’t allow you to block the ball from going into the goal. How many time outs do they get in a basketball game anyway?
Club basketball functions identically to how sponsored hockey works. Tennis was 20 years ahead of golf in how players are groomed and basketball is 20 years ahead of hockey. Ignore at your own peril.
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Everblades

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Terry Moore wrote:O-Town-We took your humorous comment as you intended it. No worries or offense. As it happens, we play the Florida Everblades this weekend in Chicago. I'll let you know how it goes.
Terry, I just pulled up the roster for the Everblades. They are based in Estero between Naples and Fort Myers.
  • 4 kids list Estero as their address
    3 are in Fort Myers (21 miles and 27 minutes according to Yahoo! Maps)
    1 is from "Sunshine Ranches" near Ft. Lauderdale (115, 1 hr. 50 min.)
    1 is from Fort Lauderdale (124, 2')
    1 is from Pinellas Park near St. Petersburg (137, 2'7")
    1 is from Lighthouse Point near Ft. Laud (136, 2'12")
    1 is from Tampa (145, 2'12")
    1 is from Lutz north of Tampa (158, 2'29")
    1 is from Lake Worth in Palm Beach County (156, 2'33")
    1 is from Palm City near Stuart (196, 3'3")
    2 are from Kissimmee south of Orlando (208, 3'14")
    1 is from Melbourne (264, 4'10")
As you can see, they've scoured the entire state to field a team that can go on the ice with you!

Have fun in Chicago.
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Club basketball functions identically to how sponsored hockey works. Tennis was 20 years ahead of golf in how players are groomed and basketball is 20 years ahead of hockey. Ignore at your own peril.[/quote]

I certainly hope hockey catches up to tennis, it gets old having to chase down all of those iced pucks during association hockey. If Minnesota is going to stay grass roots, I will need a puck boy eventually. Don't seem to have nearly as many icings with AAA. But I guess that doesn't matter so much it gives Billy and Bobby (who are neighbors) a chance to catch up while the sit on the shortened bench in their association hockey.
No actually, I am on the fence with the whole thing. I like the way it is right now, a blend of both worlds, in season and out of season.

As far as peril goes, I'm not too worried. I just like seeing the smile on my kids face when he gets off the ice. As long as we can share a beer with each other in the parking lot after the game, I am good with whatever structure he is in. You see, it's about the game. Not the crowd watching it. It is for the kids isn' it?
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Wildcats!

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Isn't it on Bass Lake this weekend?
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O-Town:

As promised, here is my report on Chicago.

The 95 Blades won our level, beating the EverBlades 5-2 in the final. In our pool play game against the EverBlades, they led us 3-1 before we came back to win 8-3. The EverBlades beat both the Mission and St. Louis to get to the final. The EverBaldes have a nice team with a couple of really good players and a strong goaltender.

The 97 Blades team also won their level, beating St. Louis in the final. The 96 team finished third. The 94s played the Mission in the final, but I dnk the result yet.
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Thanks so much for the recap

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Terry Moore wrote:O-Town:

As promised, here is my report on Chicago.

The 95 Blades won our level, beating the EverBlades 5-2 in the final. In our pool play game against the EverBlades, they led us 3-1 before we came back to win 8-3. The EverBlades beat both the Mission and St. Louis to get to the final. The EverBaldes have a nice team with a couple of really good players and a strong goaltender.

The 97 Blades team also won their level, beating St. Louis in the final. The 96 team finished third. The 94s played the Mission in the final, but I dnk the result yet.
Thanks so much. I was looking for something online about the tournament and came up empty.

While this trip was "out of season" for the Minnesota teams, the tournament probably marks the beginning of "in season" hockey for these teams. Based on those finishes it looks like the Everblades are reasonably competitive.

One of the players from my son's rink is on that team and I believe he is one of the netminders. He's got a brother close in age. One skates out and I'm not sure which is on this team. I wonder if he was the 'tender you mention.

8-3 after being down 3-1! A wild one!
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La Selects

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Brian Williams and Chase Deleo are my best friends
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La Selects

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and they are both on the LA SELECTS
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