Eden Prairie Peewee A Thanksgiving Tournament

[Ron Hextall]

East Pool:
Wayzata dumped Eagan 6-1
Centennial took care of Stillwater 7-2

Wayzata 2-0-0, 4 Pts, +10 GD
Centennial 2-0-0, 4 Pts, +7 GD
Eagan 0-2-0, 0 pts, -7 GD
Stillwater 0-2-0, 0 pts, -10 GD

Up Next:
Wayzata vs Centennial
Eagan vs Stillwater

Comments:
Wayzata vs Centennial for the championship seed, winner take all.

West Pool:
OMG 6-5 over Rochester
Edina with a little help from a 5-3 power play to end the game topped Roseau 4-3

OMG 2-0-0, 4 Pts, +5 GD, Goals Allowed 5
Roseau 1-1-0, 2 Pts, +1 GD, Goals Allowed 8
Edina 1-1-0, 2 Pts, -3 GD, Goals Allowed 7
Rochester 0-2-0, 0 Pts, -3 GD, Goals Allowed 12

Up next:
Edina vs Rochester
OMG vs Roseau

Comments:
Toughest pool of the tournament, the scenarios run wild. A Roseau and Edina win puts 3 teams at 2-1. Goal differential comes into play, Roseau needs to win by three plus goals to take pool, Edina basically can't take pool (if my math is right). With the max differential being 5 they can only finish at a +2. If Roseau wins by 2 or less than they become the odd team out. Losing the second place pool spot to Edina via head-to-head. OMG takes pool outright with a victory.

North Pool
Woodbury beat Lakeville South 5-3
Elk River topped Chaska 4-3

Elk River 2-0-0, 4 pts, +6 GD
Woodbury 2-0-0, 4 pts, +2 GD
Chaska 0-2-0, 0 pts, -2 GD
Lakeville South 0-2-0, 0 pts, -7 GD

Up Next:
Lakeville South vs Chaska
Elk River vs Woodbury

Comments:
Elk River and Woodbury duke it out for the #1 seed.

South Pool
E.P. thumped Alaska 8-1
White Bear held off Minneapolis Park 6-4

E.P. 2-0-0, 4 pts, +9 GD
White Bear 2-0-0, 4 pts, +3 GD
Alaska 0-2-0, 0 pts, -6 GD
Minneapolis Park 0-2-0, -6 GD

Up Next:
White Bear vs E.P.
Minneapolis Park vs Alaska

Comments:
White Bear and E.P. battle for the top spot.

[douglasdoright]

How did Elk River and Woodbury end up??

[simply said fred]

Semis:

EP vs. Elk River
Roseau vs. Wayzata
http://www.ephockey.com/site_maintenanc ... -PWA_1.pdf

[O-townClown]

Semis:

EP vs. Elk River
Roseau vs. Wayzata
http://www.ephockey.com/site_maintenanc ... -PWA_1.pdf

How did Edina get aced out of both 1st and 2nd in the tiebreaker? Tough break.

I'm guessing Roseau, Edina, and Maple Grove all have good runs this year.

[Hockey!LoveIt!]

How did Elk River and Woodbury end up??

ER 9
Woodbury 0

[southernhockey1]

[quote="O-townClown"][quote="simply said fred"]Semis:

EP vs. Elk River
Roseau vs. Wayzata
http://www.ephockey.com/site_maintenanc ... -PWA_1.pdf[/quote]

How did Edina get aced out of both 1st and 2nd in the tiebreaker? Tough break.

I'm guessing Roseau, Edina, and Maple Grove all have good runs this year.[/quote]

Edina was blown out by Osseo Maple Grove....this is why they are all done!!!!!

[simply said fred]

In one of the two semi-final games:

Wayzata 5
Roseau 1

Not sure about the other (Elk River vs. Eden Prairie)

[douglasdoright]

How about the consolation bracket? Any scores?

[frederick61]

In the other semifinal, EP beat Elk River 4-3 courtesy of the D6 referees (they had 4 of the 12 Elk River forwards in the penalty box in the last 3 minutes of the game with Elk River up 3-2. That put EP on a 5-3 power play. They scored on a deflection off one of their forward's skate to tie the game. That let one of the Elks out of the penalty box, but added a second penalty. EP now had a second 5-3 power play and they scored. It was their fourth (and the winning goal) power play goal in approximately 14 minutes of playing time.

I saw this same treatment that favored D6 teams in the Edina/Roseau game (again Roseau was put on the penalty kill at the end of the game). That penalty allowed Edina to win a game that they should have lost. I also saw D6 at work in a Burnsville tourney game where a non-D6 team was called for three mouth guard penalities (the guard was in their mouths, but protruding). The leading goal scorer for the team had to sit 20 minutes of the 32 minute game. He still got a hat trick.

I believe the kids involved with the mouth guard were congested from colds and were having difficulty breathing through their nose. So much for "lawyers". Let's play hockey and D6 if you are forcing the Burnsvilles and the Eden Prairies to use D6 referees in all D6 home games, provide good refs, not amateurs.

In the EP consolation finals:

Woodbury-5
White Bear Lake-4

Osseo/Maple Grove-5
Centennial-2

Does the Osseo/Maple Grove team wear Maple Grove colors when they wear dark and Osseo colors when they wear white or are they just being stealthy.

[GoGophersGuy]

I agree with the poor refs this weekend. I wouldnt go as far to say that they were trying to help D6 win games. Thats a little far.

EP is much improved team. Yes they did put themself in the easiest bracket, but they beat a very good Elk River team today. The end of this game was very interesting, but you have to give it to EP for winning this game.

To be clear, 2 penaties were called on Elk River, and an additional bench minor was called on the barking coaches. The third penalty doesnt start in this situaiton until one of the two other penalties ends, therefore, the coaches for Elk River (or who every was called for the Miscond) gave EP 2 .. 5 on 3's back to back. The last goal (game winner), was a bomb on a one timer from the point.

Elk River looked good this tourn, but the loss to EP has to be a stinger. I wasnt able to see much other games, but I think we all know this tourn had some of the best teams. Everyone is still trying to chase Wayzata, bar none, the best team in PeeWee A right now. They took Roseau 5-1, Centennial 5-3 back to back. Maple Grove/Osseo is also a good team which showed they can beat Edina.

1. Wayzata
2. Edina
3. Elk River
4. Maple Grove/Osseo
5. Centennial

[DumpandChase1]

I will agree that the D6 reffing is not the best, but to say they decided the games is a little ridiculous. Fred61, I saw the Roseau vs. Edina game and the penalties called at the end of the game were correct. When a player is going to the next and is tripped by another player that leaves his feet, it is a penalty. Also, if you really think Edina should have lost that game, I am not sure what game you were watching. Your anti-Edina stuff is getting old. I also heard from coaches that watched the Elk River vs. EP game that both penalties called on ER at the end were legit calls, and their coaches cost them the other one.

Again, I am not defending the D6 refs, most are not good, but just because it is near the end of a game doesn't mean they should not call penalties that imped scoring chances.

[DMom]

thanks for the scores and the commentary Fred. Any idea what happened in the White Bear Lake game? how did they lose to Woodbury?

[frederick61]

The same D6 refs wouldn't call tripping on the D6 team. One coach asked why? He was told that his kids kept stepping on the D6 kid's sticks, all dozen or so times during the game.

My point is this. The refs this year chose to step in at critical times in the tourneys and decide the outcome. All outcomes favored D6. If judgement is based on random probability of events, then all outcomes at crucial times should not favor D6. The point being, D6 has imposed their refs on the tourneys and taken discretion away from the associations. Bad decision.

[frederick61]

thanks for the scores and the commentary Fred. Any idea what happened in the White Bear Lake game? how did they lose to Woodbury?

Woodbury is an anomaly at this point, part of that is because they have played fairly well at times. It is a team that to me can become better as the season wears on or worst. After be beaten, 9-0, in their previous game; they were not going to let that happen against White Bear. They played one of their better games.

The smaller the a player is the more energy the player has to expend to be effective. White Bear's size became a problem in this tourney because they played their the fourth game in 48 hours (they played their first tourney game at noon on Friday and the Woodbury game at 9:00 Sunday) and it showed as the game wore on.

Woodbury was able to score on breakdowns in the WBL's defense, but WBL came back to pressure in the third, getting their fourth goal by pulling their goalie in the last minute.

[Reality Check]

Elk River sneaks by Roseau 10-1

[clutchngrab]

[quote="GoGophersGuy"]
EP is much improved team. Yes they did put themself in the easiest bracket, but they beat a very good Elk River team today. The end of this game was very interesting, but you have to give it to EP for winning this game.

I don't mind a little "home cookin" for tournament organizers but EP should be embarrassed by how they set up the pools. A deep pool of 16 teams and they end up with Alaska, White Bear Lake, and Minneapolis Park...I mean come on. The reason they gave Elk River a game is because they cruised through pool play.

Roseau battled for their life in the West pool against Edina, OMG, and Rochester and had nothing left for bracket play today. Maybe next year EP can be a little bit more discreet by adding at least one hurdle in pool play.

[buttend]

Roseau battled for their life in the West pool against Edina, OMG, and Rochester and had nothing left for bracket play today. Maybe next year EP can be a little bit more discreet by adding at least one hurdle in pool play.

Its their event. All host teams set themselves up as best they can to try to be in the finals or at least final 4 in the end.

I'm sure Roseau will do the same in their own tourney in January!

[southernhockey1]

EP Pee Wee A Championship

Wayzata 5
Eden Prairie 2

Wayzata dominated the game and this could have been double digits.

[O-townClown]

Edina was blown out by Osseo Maple Grove....this is why they are all done!!!!!

Sure, but Edina blasted the other team. Maybe the goal differential only mattered for the games involving the three 2-1 teams. If they included all three games Edina advances, no? Either 1st or 2nd.

Frederick was anti-Edina last year too.

[ACTUALFORMERPLAYER]

Roseau battled for their life in the West pool against Edina, OMG, and Rochester and had nothing left for bracket play today. Maybe next year EP can be a little bit more discreet by adding at least one hurdle in pool play.

Its their event. All host teams set themselves up as best they can to try to be in the finals or at least final 4 in the end.

I'm sure Roseau will do the same in their own tourney in January!

Wrong. Roseau played EP and the Fire last year in pool play in the Bantam tourney. Parents aren't setting up the tourney for little Johnny to win a trophy. The guy who set that tourney up last year is doing it.

[watchdog]

roseau was hammerd the last two games but its not the team your gona see in a month down the road. roseau played two games coming into this tourney and they ran out of gas after three games. theirs other things to be ironed out but i know they wont lose that bad again after their in game shape to go the distance. As far as the refs go it was a complete joke. the edina roseau game was a good tight game that could have gone either way and the guy that said they were lagit penalties is for sure without question a cidiot. i was standing right their along the boards on the first call a kid spraled out to get the puck and the edina kid took a dive (never was touched) and got the call. he should of got one on the dive. the second one was a four player pile up all converging in one location and someone happend to fall in the maylay so their must be a penalty right? the simple fact is this you have a great game going dont call stupid penalties to decide the out come let the players do that. i see no other reason to make them calls other than to favor an outcome. the other thing i noticed this weekend is people love to beat roseau and the worse the better. elk river would have ran that score up to 20 if they could have with the parents cheering it on. i am personaly gona try to line that team up to play us here in roseau and mark my words fresh legs on roseau and the ellks go down.

[jigsaw]

roseau was hammerd the last two games but its not the team your gona see in a month down the road. roseau played two games coming into this tourney and they ran out of gas after three games. theirs other things to be ironed out but i know they wont lose that bad again after their in game shape to go the distance. As far as the refs go it was a complete joke. the edina roseau game was a good tight game that could have gone either way and the guy that said they were lagit penalties is for sure without question a cidiot. i was standing right their along the boards on the first call a kid spraled out to get the puck and the edina kid took a dive (never was touched) and got the call. he should of got one on the dive. the second one was a four player pile up all converging in one location and someone happend to fall in the maylay so their must be a penalty right? the simple fact is this you have a great game going dont call stupid penalties to decide the out come let the players do that. i see no other reason to make them calls other than to favor an outcome. the other thing i noticed this weekend is people love to beat roseau and the worse the better. elk river would have ran that score up to 20 if they could have with the parents cheering it on. i am personaly gona try to line that team up to play us here in roseau and mark my words fresh legs on roseau and the ellks go down.

ohh poor watchdog:The TEAM who really wants to do something finds a way; the other TEAM finds an EXCUSE.

[Bronc]

roseau was hammerd the last two games but its not the team your gona see in a month down the road. roseau played two games coming into this tourney and they ran out of gas after three games. theirs other things to be ironed out but i know they wont lose that bad again after their in game shape to go the distance. As far as the refs go it was a complete joke. the edina roseau game was a good tight game that could have gone either way and the guy that said they were lagit penalties is for sure without question a cidiot. i was standing right their along the boards on the first call a kid spraled out to get the puck and the edina kid took a dive (never was touched) and got the call. he should of got one on the dive. the second one was a four player pile up all converging in one location and someone happend to fall in the maylay so their must be a penalty right? the simple fact is this you have a great game going dont call stupid penalties to decide the out come let the players do that. i see no other reason to make them calls other than to favor an outcome. the other thing i noticed this weekend is people love to beat roseau and the worse the better. elk river would have ran that score up to 20 if they could have with the parents cheering it on. i am personaly gona try to line that team up to play us here in roseau and mark my words fresh legs on roseau and the ellks go down.

ohh poor watchdog:The TEAM who really wants to do something finds a way; the other TEAM finds an EXCUSE.

Prior to the tournament the blogs stated look out, here comes Roseau.

Post tournament, look out next time and poor Roseau they beat us bad.

It is not all about you, the parents were probably just cheering on their players during the games (believe it or not they are more proud of them than thinking about you:) not the fact they beat Roseau(?)

When you defeated Thief River 9-3 on Nov 22nd & Hallock 10-1 on the 23rd were you running it up or just playing hockey(?).

This is A hockey play till the whistle and quit complaining.

[SuperStar]

Fred61 - I watched both the EP/Elk River game and Roseau/Edina game - All the penalties were legit...

Just because EP had a 5-3 in the last two minutes and capitalized doesn't mean the refs gave it away - Elk River was up 3-0 in the second period and scored 2 of there 3 goals on power plays - They even had a 5-3 against EP and didn't score. The total penalities that that game were EP (10) Elk River (7)...And you are a D6 person...Can't believe you would try to hammer on the refs when EP had more penalities..You just cant stand having EP win a game.

Same with Edina/Roseau - Great game - Both penalties were totally legit, just so happened that it happened with 2 minutes to play..

[O-townClown]

the simple fact is this you have a great game going dont call stupid penalties to decide the out come let the players do that.

Dog, funny you should categorize someone as an idiot when you can't spell words like melee and constantly stumble on a basic homonym like they're/their/there. Glass houses? Anyway, if you want the players to decide the outcome it is vital that refs call all penalties...even the stupid ones. Otherwise you are giving kids carte blanche to do crazy stuff that isn't part of the game.

Roseau's "little old train that could" story has worn thin for some. As mentioned, some posters on this site were touting the Roseau Pee Wees as a team to beat this weekend. All last year there was a lovefest for the HS team by a cadre on this board. For what? The excitement of getting thumped in the 3rd place game?

The town of Roseau has a wonderful hockey program. All of the kids work hard. Small numbers are definitely a disadvantage, but it sure seems offset by many factors...all of which make Roseau special.

One question. Why should Elk River go up to Roseau for a game? Don't be surprised if your next crack at them is in the state tournament.