Schwan Cup

northhockey23 · Post by **northhockey23** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:44 pm

This year's gold division Schwan Cup is stacked, just like every year. Who do you see winning?

The teams are WBL, Centennial, Holy Angels, St. Thomas, Hill, Tonka, Edina, Moorhead.

youngblood08 · Post by **youngblood08** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:53 pm

Centennial steps up and lets everyone know they are still better then they are since peewees.

Zamman · Post by **Zamman** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:02 pm

We are all entitled to our opinion, so you have yours.

The Gold Division of the Schwans Cup, in High school, is a long way from peeewee and a lot has changed in all areas of hockey.

Now the favorites should be Hill and Edina. But history has shown that some teams do real well in this tournament and all it is is bragging rights. The season is young and a lot will happen before the end of the season.WBL and Centennial close game all the time. I like Centennial. AHA vs STA, they do not play very often. I am the fan so AHA is my choice. Now AHA/Centennial is always a good game, but Centennial has won each time. I still pick AHA.
On the other end I am going to be quick and say Hill wins and Edina wins making for a great semi-final. after that it gets complicated so I will not say anything until after the games.

komada77 · Post by **komada77** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:33 pm

Anyone know who is in the silver division?

Iceburg · Post by **Iceburg** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:44 pm

komada77 wrote:Anyone know who is in the silver division?

Silver Division Bracket
Bronze Division Bracket

youngblood08 · Post by **youngblood08** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:48 pm

Centennial over Hill for the Gold

Duluth East over BSM for the Silver.

Stillwater over Maple Grove for the Bronze

Penguinsfan33 · Post by **Penguinsfan33** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:51 pm

zamman cenntenial has won each time? what about when holy angels stomped them two years ago 8-3 in the championship. I will agree with you when you say holy angels edges them this year.

Zamman · Post by **Zamman** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:18 am

Oops my bad. I forgot that one..... I stand corrected. Thanks for remiding me.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:53 am

Zamman, do you know if STA and AHA have ever played? It would not be in recent history. Their match up is one I have no idea what to predict. Like you, I pick the team I know simply for that reason. Only edge I think STA has is between now and then AHA only has practice while STA has games against Tonka and Cretin.

The class A school winning this would be the ultimate bragging rights, although I don't see Hill losing any games. I think STA/AHA are the "x factor" in this tourney at this point. Both are young and we don't know much about what they can/will do yet. But really when it comes down to it, Hill getting 3rd and Moorhead winning wouldn't be so out of this world.
Should be fun to see how it plays out.

Anyone have info on how tickets have worked in the past? Website says ticket prices will be posted by the 15th...and it's the 18th now.

My prediction:
Centennial over WBL
STA over AHA
Hill over Tonka
Edina over

STA over Centennial
Hill over Edina

Hill over STA

MedleyWR · Post by **MedleyWR** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:26 am

Round 1
White Bear over Centennial
STA over Holy Angels
Hill Murray over Minnetonka
Moorhead over Edina

Round 2
White Bear over STA
Hill Murray over Moorhead

Championship
TBD (let's see what happens at Aldrich on 12/23)

TheNightman · Post by **TheNightman** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:41 am

HShockeywatcher wrote:Zamman, do you know if STA and AHA have ever played? It would not be in recent history. Their match up is one I have no idea what to predict. Like you, I pick the team I know simply for that reason. Only edge I think STA has is between now and then AHA only has practice while STA has games against Tonka and Cretin.

The class A school winning this would be the ultimate bragging rights, although I don't see Hill losing any games. I think STA/AHA are the "x factor" in this tourney at this point. Both are young and we don't know much about what they can/will do yet. But really when it comes down to it, Hill getting 3rd and Moorhead winning wouldn't be so out of this world.
Should be fun to see how it plays out.

Anyone have info on how tickets have worked in the past? Website says ticket prices will be posted by the 15th...and it's the 18th now.
My prediction:
Centennial over WBL
STA over AHA
Hill over Tonka
Edina over

STA over Centennial
Hill over Edina

Hill over STA

Last year it was 20 bucks for a weekend pass where you could go to all games, and I think it was somewhere around 8 bucks to go to one session

5oclockshadow · Post by **5oclockshadow** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:30 am

Centennial over hill in the championship.........St. Thomas will take dead last.........stay in single A

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:40 am

"St. Thomas will take dead last.........stay in single A"

Huh? St Thomas is in class A still. Not sure what the Schwan Cup has to do with classes either. There are AA teams in both the bronze and silver cups.

How do the passes work on the 3rd day since many teams will play their last game in a different venue than their first two? Weekend pass get you into any venue?

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:03 am

The prices are now posted:
http://www.nscsports.org/sports/hockey/ ... prices.htm

Curious if anyone knows why Edina is in the Gold Cup. As the cups have been going in the past years, if a team wins the cup they are offered to move up, and if they go 0-3, they move down. East went 0-3 last year so they are in silver this year. St Thomas was 3-0 in the silver so they are in gold. But Edina won the consolation bracket in silver last year, losing their first game to Benilde, and yet they moved up. Anyone know why?

Anyone think anyone has a shot at beating East in Silver?

youngblood08 · Post by **youngblood08** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:29 pm

5oclockshadow wrote:Centennial over hill in the championship.........St. Thomas will take dead last.........stay in single A

I agree with the first and second statement but they should be moved to AA and a tougher conference.

Zamman · Post by **Zamman** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:50 pm

I do not recall AHA playing STA. I know they have not since i have been at the arena, over 12 years and I do not recall playing them from 77 - 80. When I was there.

bueller · Post by **bueller** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:11 pm

I think centennial makes a comeback after last year's terrible performance. They came into last years tourney with a 12-3 record at the excel taking 1st in 03, 2nd in 04, 3rd in 05 and 2nd in 06, and winning state in 04. last year they went 1-2 and i see the sophomore goaltender in larson having a huge tourney and them taking home the hardware this year:

Centennial over White Bear 6-3
STA over Holy Angels 5-4
Hill Murray over Minnetonka 4-1
Edina over Moorhead 4-0

2nd round
Centennial over STA 5-3
Hill over Edina 4-3

For the ship
Centennial over Hill 3-2 Moving the excel record to 16-5 in 6 years

p.s. East will take home Silver division in a cake walk

Goldy23 · Post by **Goldy23** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:11 pm

Moorhead probably won't win a game. Hill has to be the favorite. AHA could be the dark horse.

deacon · Post by **deacon** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:03 pm

youngblood08 wrote:
5oclockshadow wrote:Centennial over hill in the championship.........St. Thomas will take dead last.........stay in single A

I agree with the first and second statement but they should be moved to AA and a tougher conference.

move to a tougher conference? do you know anything about how high school athletics work?

komada77 · Post by **komada77** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:58 pm

deacon wrote:
youngblood08 wrote:
5oclockshadow wrote:Centennial over hill in the championship.........St. Thomas will take dead last.........stay in single A

I agree with the first and second statement but they should be moved to AA and a tougher conference.
move to a tougher conference? do you know anything about how high school athletics work?

School can switch conferences if they feel the need to. Cretin did it 5 years ago when they moved from St. Paul City to SEC. Edina, Armstrong, Wayzata, Hopkins, & Tonka will all be doing it in the next couple years. So the real question is, do you know anyhting about how high school athletics work?

Duluth 4 · Post by **Duluth 4** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:59 pm

is STA AA?

komada77 · Post by **komada77** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:32 pm

Duluth 4 wrote:is STA AA?

no

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:27 pm

komada77,
pretty sure his point was more that it takes more than being good in one sport to move to a different conference. Look at everything discussed about AHA.

In addition St Thomas hasn't been at the top of the conference in football, hockey, basketball or baseball two years in a row in the last 5 years. Alpine skiing and swimming are the only two sports I know that they dominate on a regular basis. Nothing else...not even hockey.

Zamman · Post by **Zamman** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:40 pm

komada77 wrote:
deacon wrote:
youngblood08 wrote:
I agree with the first and second statement but they should be moved to AA and a tougher conference.
move to a tougher conference? do you know anything about how high school athletics work?
School can switch conferences if they feel the need to. Cretin did it 5 years ago when they moved from St. Paul City to SEC. Edina, Armstrong, Wayzata, Hopkins, & Tonka will all be doing it in the next couple years. So the real question is, do you know anyhting about how high school athletics work?

Actually Credit was kicked, (forced) out of the city conference. The other schools could not compete in any sports.
Conferences vary. AHA is in the Missota and if one team is in the conference they all are. I agree that in the next couple of years we will see some changes in conferences, but who cares what conference you are in, the section is what matters.

komada77 · Post by **komada77** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:36 am

Zamman wrote:
komada77 wrote:
deacon wrote: move to a tougher conference? do you know anything about how high school athletics work?
School can switch conferences if they feel the need to. Cretin did it 5 years ago when they moved from St. Paul City to SEC. Edina, Armstrong, Wayzata, Hopkins, & Tonka will all be doing it in the next couple years. So the real question is, do you know anyhting about how high school athletics work?
Actually Credit was kicked, (forced) out of the city conference. The other schools could not compete in any sports.
Conferences vary. AHA is in the Missota and if one team is in the conference they all are. I agree that in the next couple of years we will see some changes in conferences, but who cares what conference you are in, the section is what matters.

Totally agree that the section is much more important than the conference, but I think playing a tough conference schedule will prepare a team better for sections than a weak conference schedule.

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