Meadow Creek Christian @ Irondale 11-25

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:21 am

First game of the year involving a MN team. Irondale started the year 0-9 last year and went 11-5 in their last 16 games of the regular season last year. Who's Meadow Creek Christian?

Post by **east hockey** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:57 am

Well, I couldn't find Meadow Creek on any Minnesota map

, so i Googled it.

http://www.meadowcreek.com/

A Christian school located in Andover. Huh.

Lee

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 1:27 pm

Are they a new program then? They weren't a MSHSL team last year as far as I can find. Minnesota-scores doesn't even list them as a team this year yet.

http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/schoolactpag ... actnum=410

With the exception of Benilde and Totino on their schedule, it should be a laid back year for them with each Mpls team twice and St Francis 3 times, to name a few.

hockeyboys · Post by **hockeyboys** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:23 pm

They had a jv team last year - which wasn't very good. Not sure they will have some success at the varsity level. Of course, maybe they brought in a couple of European players to fill the gap like Breck did a couple of years ago.

mch · Post by **mch** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:41 pm

they won't be too strong

hockeyboys · Post by **hockeyboys** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:14 pm

perhaps they spent the summer agressively attracting players to their school

It does sound like a lovely place. Rolling Meadows and babbling brooks and lots of love to go around. Very attractive to the aspiring hockey player

pondhockeyfan19 · Post by **pondhockeyfan19** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:06 am

this is technically not an official game rather a scrimmage, this would put Irondale's regular season game total to 26 making it illegal, regardless Irondale should have no problems running the score up tonight

Elvis · Post by **Elvis** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:10 am

26th games are allowed for teams filling up a first year team's schedule. Check the other teams on MCC's schedule and I bet most have 26 games.

Post by **east hockey** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 11:14 am

Elvis wrote:26th games are allowed for teams filling up a first year team's schedule. Check the other teams on MCC's schedule and I bet most have 26 games.

You are correct. I remembered that rule from past years when my spreadsheet started flagging some teams for having more than 25 games on their schedule. The MSHSL.org site makes this clear.

Lee

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:26 pm

Any score or update?

Post by **east hockey** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 11:21 am

As of later this afternoon, I'm pulling this game off the schedule at minnhock.com. mshsl.org and FollowThePuck.com don't show this as a game, but geocities/dent does. The official school website for Meadow Creek shows it as a game, but Irondale hockey's website indicates it's a scrimmage. Considering that there are no games scheduled state-wide until Friday 11/28, this appears to be a scrimmage. So, I'm going with that unless I can get verification otherwise from both schools.

Lee

mr.pucks · Post by **mr.pucks** » Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:55 pm

6-2 Irondale

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Thu Nov 27, 2008 10:59 am

Correct. The MSHSL doesn't list it as a game anymore, but they did originally. Seems kind of silly to me; probably means Irondale backed out of having it be a game.

crocket · Post by **crocket** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:59 pm

6-2 Not too bad for a first year team up against a program that has been established for decades

LetsPlayHockey22 · Post by **LetsPlayHockey22** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 11:38 am

Yes, however, Irondale hasn't been good for a while, and Meadow Creek just lost 12-1 to St. Francis.....good area but with transfer rules now I don't see Meadow Creek ever getting on the map

crocket · Post by **crocket** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:51 pm

If a student transfers to a private school they cannot play sports? They have to be in a private school from kindergarten on? How does Hill do it? 12-1 is a bad loss, but it is their first year and I think Hill Murray was like 4-13-1 in their first year and rocketed up from there. All it will take is a few transfers and the flood gates will open. NWSC or private school has won every state title since 2000 besides Roseau one year (NWSC-4)(private schools-4)(Roseau-1)-Reason why? In my opinion its because the area has never had a private school hockey program like the rest of the metro that is littered with them, and like I have said before how many titles would Johnson- N St Paul- S StPaul have won without Hill around? I Could be wrong, but the signs are all there.

MNsGreatest#2 · Post by **MNsGreatest#2** » Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:06 am

crocket wrote:If a student transfers to a private school they cannot play sports? They have to be in a private school from kindergarten on? How does Hill do it? 12-1 is a bad loss, but it is their first year and I think Hill Murray was like 4-13-1 in their first year and rocketed up from there. All it will take is a few transfers and the flood gates will open. NWSC or private school has won every state title since 2000 besides Roseau one year (NWSC-4)(private schools-4)(Roseau-1)-Reason why? In my opinion its because the area has never had a private school hockey program like the rest of the metro that is littered with them, and like I have said before how many titles would Johnson- N St Paul- S StPaul have won without Hill around? I Could be wrong, but the signs are all there.

Sorry to bring back old talks, but come on Davie. You seem to enjoy throwing around ridiculous statements like its confetti. I'm hoping your initial question is just a joke, and the truth is Meadow Creek Christian will not establish themselves. Come on man, HM AHA,, BSM, TG, Breck, Blake - all of these schools have long been established and were established prior to the new rule that was put into effect last year making any transfers result in a 1 year period where the student cannot play varsity. So unless Meadow Creek has some kind of ice cream shop that appeals to 8th graders, it just wont happen.

crocket · Post by **crocket** » Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:48 am

That explains why their team is so young ! Thank you????

LetsPlayHockey22 · Post by **LetsPlayHockey22** » Fri Dec 26, 2008 11:21 am

MNsGreatest#2 wrote:
crocket wrote:If a student transfers to a private school they cannot play sports? They have to be in a private school from kindergarten on? How does Hill do it? 12-1 is a bad loss, but it is their first year and I think Hill Murray was like 4-13-1 in their first year and rocketed up from there. All it will take is a few transfers and the flood gates will open. NWSC or private school has won every state title since 2000 besides Roseau one year (NWSC-4)(private schools-4)(Roseau-1)-Reason why? In my opinion its because the area has never had a private school hockey program like the rest of the metro that is littered with them, and like I have said before how many titles would Johnson- N St Paul- S StPaul have won without Hill around? I Could be wrong, but the signs are all there.
Sorry to bring back old talks, but come on Davie. You seem to enjoy throwing around ridiculous statements like its confetti. I'm hoping your initial question is just a joke, and the truth is Meadow Creek Christian will not establish themselves. Come on man, HM AHA,, BSM, TG, Breck, Blake - all of these schools have long been established and were established prior to the new rule that was put into effect last year making any transfers result in a 1 year period where the student cannot play varsity. So unless Meadow Creek has some kind of ice cream shop that appeals to 8th graders, it just wont happen.

Lol thats good, I hate to rip on the team but a good buddy of mine went to Meadow Creek last year and played JV and has now transfered back to Blaine and is playing JV here. He says his decision to come back was because the program was going nowhere and nobody was coming in that could help the team. Just saying the talent isn't there because my friend was a captain on the team last year and he is (no offense to him) an average player at Blaine. The transfer rule makes it too hard to build a program nowadays.

crocket · Post by **crocket** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:04 pm

They will take in hockey talent the same way other private schools will -The thing in their favor again is no other private school hockey programs in a talent rich area- Not a matter of if they will succeed, just how quickly.

MNsGreatest#2 · Post by **MNsGreatest#2** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:36 am

crocket wrote:They will take in hockey talent the same way other private schools will -The thing in their favor again is no other private school hockey programs in a talent rich area- Not a matter of if they will succeed, just how quickly.

Yea Davie this is a moderatly wealthy area with alot of talent. So that talent will stay with their respective public school or head off to one of the real private schools like kids have been doing since you were a twinkle in your moms eye. Come on man you think if parents are gonna fork over the money for their kids to go private, they will worry about the logistics of the school? You need to be banned from all posts concerning meadow creek.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:13 am

I don't agree with him that they will be a force to reckon with anytime soon, but if you have a young very talented player who wants 4-5 years of varsity experience and the private school education in the area, this could be their ticket. A few kids do it and they improve dramatically...

MNsGreatest#2 · Post by **MNsGreatest#2** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:49 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote:I don't agree with him that they will be a force to reckon with anytime soon, but if you have a young very talented player who wants 4-5 years of varsity experience and the private school education in the area, this could be their ticket. A few kids do it and they improve dramatically...

I agree, that scenario is definentely plausible. But, what happens when they get these few players? they do well with that schedule of theirs? There are peewee teams that could break 500 with a schedule like that.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:56 pm

Look at any team who's gotten better over the years. Little Falls' schedule was terrible a couple years ago and now it's better because they are and better teams will play them. Same thing would happen. Not saying it will, just a possibility.

MNsGreatest#2 · Post by **MNsGreatest#2** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:12 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote:Look at any team who's gotten better over the years. Little Falls' schedule was terrible a couple years ago and now it's better because they are and better teams will play them. Same thing would happen. Not saying it will, just a possibility.

Yeah and last time I checked Little Falls doesn't have transfer rules they have to worry about. Oh the possibilities when your a public school

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