Edina ABRA Invitational

[MNHockeyFan]

Blaine- 7
GRG- 4

Wow, no one (except maybe Blaine and their coaches) saw this one coming. Congrats to them on their win over a fine Grand Rapids team.

[hockeywild7]

Well according to the PA announcer after the game thats what the total shots were. Stillwater outshot Hopkins in every period.

[zamboni99]

GRG came out hot and then cooled off very quickly. Havel is a big reason for GRG's sucess, but to me it also looked like she may have had an off night. Congrats to Blaine and not giving in when down early.[/quote]

[Joethehockeydad]

Sorry, but you are wrong. The PA announced Hopkins 12 Stillwater 8 after one. Hopkins 20 something (I couldn't hear the exact total) to 18 after two. Why would you attempt to misstate the stats when you know they will be out tomorrow. Stats are NOT an opinion, they are facts. Who played better is an opinion, many people look to this forum for some good info when they can't be at the game, especially when two great teams like this go at it. Obviously you are a Stillwater fan and I say to you....Congratulations on a great win, your skaters wore us out by the end and you gave us our first loss of the season!!

Well according to the PA announcer after the game thats what the total shots were. Stillwater outshot Hopkins in every period.

[hockeywild7]

Well Joe I guess I misheard what he said. I am not trying to mistate any facts as that is what I heard them say after the game. I guess when they give the box score it will all be corrected, not that it matters. And yes I am a Stillwater fan who witnessed a great game that as I said could have gone either way and was a great showcase for girls hockey.

[hockrun]

Blaine- 7
GRG- 4

GRG was up 4-1 after 1 then played awful in the last two periods.
Havel was pretty shaky in net; let in a lot of easy goals.

Terrible comment! How about GRG played shaky.

Havel is an outstanding goalie who in most games faces more shots than her opponent. Goalies can be struggle every so often and there are always 5 other players on the ice who the puck has to get by. In my opinion the major reason why GRG is a top 5 team is Havel. Take her away and GRG has 3-4 more losses.

I never said that GRG played well. GRG didn't play shaky- they played awful in the second two periods, and I said that... I just noted the fact that Havel didn't play her best tonight. Anybody that was at the game would agree with me in saying that she let in some easy goals. I never said that she was the reason for the loss, nor that she was a bad goaltender. I'm just saying that she was off today. Anybody who has watched her play would agree that any night where she lets in 7 goals is an off night for her. She's a good goalie, and has been a large part of the success of GRG the last 3 years; GRG is going to struggle filling her skates next year.
I don't know what happened to GRG today. They played well in the first, and then played like garbage after that. We'll see what they do tomorrow against Hopkins. I have a feeling both teams are going to come out with a vengence.

[brookyone]

A quick check of a couple sites indicates no results or stats from any games are being reported yet. As for the Hopkins / Stillwater barnburner, a very entertaing, exciting game to my eyes. Periods of dominance by both teams I thought. No idea what SOG numbers were...I guess I wouldn't expect a big margin or edge for either team. There were stretches of Pony dominance prior to the 3rd and OT periods IMO tho.

[nothernewguy]

We'll see what the shots were but hopkins was well ahead after two and I never heard what the final count was, but Stillwater only had 18 after two periods of play (I'm pretty sure Stillwater didn't get 29 shots in one period plus OT)??

Hopkins did not outshoot stillwater, shots on net where 47-34 in favor of Stillwater. Both goalies came up big a couple times and each team had its moments but i would say stillwater definitely had the better of play for the most part. What a great game to watch, either team could have won. But i think stillwaters depth paid off in the end.

Oh Joe, say it ain't so, you aren't so blinded by Royals fever that you would simply deny facts from fellow posters just 'cause you don't like 'em?

Shots do not tell the whole story of this game. Stillwater completely dominated the first period, they were in control except for maybe 3 short flurries going the other way, third period same story. Second period momentum shifted temporarily back to Hopkins.

Stillwater is running like a well-oiled machine at the moment.

[nmnhockeydad]

Hill Murray 2 Duluth 1
A very even well played game.

JV
Hill Murray 2 Duluth 2 (2 OT)
Duluth wins 3-2 shootout

[northwoods oldtimer]

Probably ran with the number 1 line a bit too much and Blaine got the best of this team. 7 goals, too much to give up team defense and goaltending suffered. This club tends to focus too much on the "star" aspect and fails to develop a team. My prediction is Duluth will knock them off come playoff time.

[royals dad]

They did announce the shots at the end of the game as Stillwater 41 Hopkis 30 something. I had a much different count from behind the net. There were alot of shots that were wide of the net that may have been counted.

I don't think you really need to rip anyone here. Bothe teams are fast, strong, and really well coached. I think Stillwater showed some advantage in depth as thier #1 and #2 line saw a lot less ice and that showed at the end. It would be great if the saw each other again at the x.

Stillwater JV beat Hopkins JV 2-0. It was a well played, Stillwater had a bit of an edge through most of the game but Hopkins hung in there right to the end.

[joehockey]

Probably ran with the number 1 line a bit too much and Blaine got the best of this team. 7 goals, too much to give up team defense and goaltending suffered. This club tends to focus too much on the "star" aspect and fails to develop a team. My prediction is Duluth will knock them off come playoff time.

I don't know what will happen HM has played both and I was very impressed with both teams - the top line and 2 D for GRG maybe better top unit but Duluth has better team play and depth. Duluth is not as good at letting the play develop they tended to move the puck before they had to - GRG has a sort of slow patiences that opens up opportunities. Both teams have great goaltenders. Last night against HM Bellamy was very, very good - she gave up maybe three rebounds and on two of them HM was fortunate to score. Throw in Proctor and CEC and this will be a tough section to get out of.

[joehockey]

Probably ran with the number 1 line a bit too much and Blaine got the best of this team. 7 goals, too much to give up team defense and goaltending suffered. This club tends to focus too much on the "star" aspect and fails to develop a team. My prediction is Duluth will knock them off come playoff time.

I don't know what will happen HM has played both and I was very impressed with both teams - the top line and 2 D for GRG maybe better top unit but Duluth has better team play and depth. Duluth is not as good at letting the play develop they tended to move the puck before they had to - GRG has a sort of slow patiences that opens up opportunities. Both teams have great goaltenders. Last night against HM Bellamy was very, very good - she gave up maybe three rebounds and on two of them HM was fortunate to score. Throw in Proctor and CEC and this will be a tough section to get out of.

[joehockey]

ABRA Invitational

First Round Results
Varsity
Stillwater 3, Hopkins 2 OT (first season loss for Hopkins)
Blaine 7, Grand Rapids/Greenway 4
Hill Murray 2, Duluth 1
Edina 6, Irondale 3

JV (Updated)
Stillwater 2 Hopkins 0
GRG 3 Blaine 0
Duluth 3 Hill Murray 2 - OT shootout
Edina 5 Irondale 0

Varsity Games Round 2
12 noon Hopkins vs. GRG
2:30 PM Stillwater vs. Blaine
5 PM Irondale vs. Duluth
7:30 PM Edina vs. Hill Murray

Any predictions?

[MNHockeyFan]

Varsity Games Round 2
12 noon Hopkins vs. GRG
2:30 PM Stillwater vs. Blaine
5 PM Irondale vs. Duluth
7:30 PM Edina vs. Hill Murray

Any predictions?

This is really tough! But I'll go with:
Hopkins 4, GR/G 3
Stillwater 4, Blaine 1
Duluth 4, Irondale 2
Hill Murray 3, Edina 1

[royals dad]

JV GRG vs Blaine was GRG 3 Blaine 0 (i know result not 100% on score)

That sets up Blaine v Hopkins and GRG v Stillwater in JV.

Never thought I would run into a venue that was to small for a Girls Hockey Tournament. It is kind of nice to see the stands full and the boards lined with people (reminds me of state when it was at Ridder) but with this field it would be nice to have a little better viewing of the games.

I would go Stillwater over Hill for the Varsity championship, I'm guessing it will be a goaltenders game to win or loose mabey 2 to 1 in OT.

[g-hockeymom]

Day 1 - JV results

Stillwater 2 Hopkins 0
GRG over Blaine - not sure of score
Duluth 3 Hill Murray 2 - OT shootout
Edina 5 Irondale 0

[hockrun]

Hopkins- 5
GRG- 4 3OT

Great game by both teams. I didn't see Hopkins play yesterday, but GRG played like a completely different team today. Can't wait to see the rematch at the end of the month. I'm not sure what the shots were, but it seemed like they were pretty close.

[zamboni99]

Hopkins- 5
GRG- 4 3OT

Great game by both teams. I didn't see Hopkins play yesterday, but GRG played like a completely different team today. Can't wait to see the rematch at the end of the month. I'm not sure what the shots were, but it seemed like they were pretty close.

I agree, it was an awesome game to watch. Some very nice end to end action. Kept ya on edge of your seat. The rematch should be another great one. Arola had a very nice game as did Havel in the nets. Does the game go into standings as a tie? then Hopkins gets the win in the tourney

[Joethehockeydad]

I was not able to make this game, but my daughter just gave me the rundown from her perspective. Hopkins only had like 4 shots the first period and GRG had more like 10 and really dominated the first period. She said it was tied 1-1 after one and 2-2 after two with GRG still dominating. The third was again mostly dominated by GRG but Hopkins had the lead until 5 seconds left in regulation when GRG tied it up at 4. 8 minutes of 5v5 and 5 minutes of 4v4 the score still stood tied at 4. Finally Cara Johnson after four minutes of 3v3. She felt that GRG was the best team they've played this year due to not letting Hopkins have any control of the puck. I wish I could have made this game but there will be a rematch later on our schedule that will be a can't miss.

Hopkins- 5
GRG- 4 3OT

Great game by both teams. I didn't see Hopkins play yesterday, but GRG played like a completely different team today. Can't wait to see the rematch at the end of the month. I'm not sure what the shots were, but it seemed like they were pretty close.

[joehockey]

Stillwater 5 Blaine 2

Blaine went up 2-0, it was 2-1 after 1; 4-2 after 2; Stillwater scored ONG at the buzzer to end game. Blaine skated two lines most of the way and ran out of gas.

[ghshockeyfan]

Hopkins- 5
GRG- 4 3OT...

...The third was again mostly dominated by GRG but Hopkins had the lead until 5 seconds left in regulation when GRG tied it up at 4. 8 minutes of 5v5 and 5 minutes of 4v4 the score still stood tied at 4. Finally Cara Johnson after four minutes of 3v3.

Sounds like a great game - the OT's are interesting too... For a while I thought that the MSHSL rules stated only SO's to decide tourney ties after the standard MSHSL 8 min 5v5 OT (except section and state play) but I must be wrong on that.

[Joethehockeydad]

Hockeywild7, I owe you an apology. I misheard, or maybe it was announced incorrectly after periods one and two, but looking at the newspaper just now I see Stillwater had 12 shots and Hopkins 8 in first period, etc. etc. I never did hear the ending announcement but I am sure you heard it correctly and it was confirmed in the paper. You have a very good team in Stillwater and also Congrats on another win today over Blaine.

Well Joe I guess I misheard what he said. I am not trying to mistate any facts as that is what I heard them say after the game. I guess when they give the box score it will all be corrected, not that it matters. And yes I am a Stillwater fan who witnessed a great game that as I said could have gone either way and was a great showcase for girls hockey.

[Joethehockeydad]

It's so. Awesome quote of Ms. Palin (you get it). I must have had the Royals fever and watching such a good game made me hear incorrectly as well. I really wasn't trying to deny facts, but ultimately that is what happened. I'll have to see my doctor about this fever thing (thanks for the diagnosis).

We'll see what the shots were but hopkins was well ahead after two and I never heard what the final count was, but Stillwater only had 18 after two periods of play (I'm pretty sure Stillwater didn't get 29 shots in one period plus OT)??

Hopkins did not outshoot stillwater, shots on net where 47-34 in favor of Stillwater. Both goalies came up big a couple times and each team had its moments but i would say stillwater definitely had the better of play for the most part. What a great game to watch, either team could have won. But i think stillwaters depth paid off in the end.

Oh Joe, say it ain't so, you aren't so blinded by Royals fever that you would simply deny facts from fellow posters just 'cause you don't like 'em?

Shots do not tell the whole story of this game. Stillwater completely dominated the first period, they were in control except for maybe 3 short flurries going the other way, third period same story. Second period momentum shifted temporarily back to Hopkins.

Stillwater is running like a well-oiled machine at the moment.

[ghshockeyfan]

Hopkins- 5
GRG- 4 3OT...

...The third was again mostly dominated by GRG but Hopkins had the lead until 5 seconds left in regulation when GRG tied it up at 4. 8 minutes of 5v5 and 5 minutes of 4v4 the score still stood tied at 4. Finally Cara Johnson after four minutes of 3v3.

Sounds like a great game - the OT's are interesting too... For a while I thought that the MSHSL rules stated only SO's to decide tourney ties after the standard MSHSL 8 min 5v5 OT (except section and state play) but I must be wrong on that.

Here's the official word on OT's in non-section/state tourneys:

#1 NFHS rules are used for MSHSL hockey:
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/Publications ... s.doc?ne=2

BYLAW 402.00 CONTEST RULES

The following rules, except as modified by the League, shall govern all interschool competition in the respective sport or activity. (League rule modifications are printed in the current Athletic Rules and Policies Manual in the section designated for each activity.)

1. National Federation Rules Books:

Baseball
Basketball
Cheerleading (Spirit)
Cross Country Running
Football
Gymnastics, Girls
Hockey

#2 as described below NFHS pushes the decision on OT back to the MSHSL:

https://www.nfhs.org/custom/resourcelib ... 2biZJIw%3d

(note: might have to be a registered member to get to the link above...)

Page 53 2008-09 NFHS Ice Hockey Rules Rule 6-38
SECTION 38 TIED GAMES
ART. 1 . . . In case of a tie score at the end of the third period, if an overtime
is played, there shall be a three-minute intermission, ends shall not be changed,
and play shall be con tinued for not more than eight minutes. Teams shall remain
in the bench area between the end of the third period and the beginning of the
overtime period. The team that scores first wins, and the game is ended. If no
score is made in these eight minutes, the game shall be declared a tie.
NOTE: All tournament games shall be played under overtime policies adopted by the state
high school association.
PENALTY: If either team should decline to play the necessary extra period, the
game shall be declared a loss for that team, and the score shall be 1 to 0.
ART. 2 . . . If, in the opinion of the officials, the ice surface is unplayable, the
ice shall be resurfaced. The normal intermission shall be in effect.

#3 MSHSL had this on their site (has this changed?):

http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/publications ... ey.htm?mj=*

Overtime Periods in School-Sponsored Tournament Play:

1. In case of a tie at the end of regular play during school sponsored tournament play the tie may be broken by the overtime tie breaking procedure as follows:

a. One 8-minute sudden death overtime period.
b. If still tied after 8-minutes: The Tournament Manager will conduct a shootout to determine the winner.
c. If a winner is decided by the use of a shootout, each team will record the contest as a tie. The score of the game will be the score at the end of overtime period.



In all cases where a shootout is used to determine a winner the game will be officially recorded as a tie. The score at the end of the 8-minute overtime period will be the official score for the contest.